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The Sunspot Cycle Explained

An anonymous reader writes "After the recent spate of auroras visible as far south as Florida and Greece, and radio amateurs having lots of fun bouncing their signals off the auroral curtain, maybe some explanation was needed. It has been known for a while that the peak of solar activity trail trails the sunspot cycle peak by a couple of years, but this BBC article appears to explain why. As you may expect most of the data came from the SOHO satellite and the theory has been put together by some scientists using what appears to be data mining."

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  1. First? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Did I do it?

    1. Re:First? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      YOU FAILED IT.

      Now, go put the kettle on, there's a good lad.

  2. Fuck Taco and Chrisd. Fuck them up their by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    stupid asses. GNAA #1

    8===========D ~~~ (_(_) <---Taco's anus

  3. ****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Uber+Banker · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Johnny Wilkinson drop-kicked in the last minute breaking the 17-17 deadlock into England's win.

    w00t

    1. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by mattjb0010 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I blame the sunspot cycle for Australia's loss.

    2. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I didn't know England played baseball. hrmph. it's a day for dang useless trivia

    3. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Space+cowboy · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      " I didn't know England played baseball. hrmph. it's a day for dang useless trivia"

      What is this "baseball" of which you speak ?

      Oh, I remember, played it at school.. "rounders" I believe we call it.

      Simon

      --
      Physicists get Hadrons!
    4. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Don't you think it's a tad on the crass side that the yanks have a "world cup" when only American sides compete init?

      Oh sorry, I forgot - to most yanks, America *IS* "the world".

    5. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      And the more you look at every other country, the reality is, it's a fact.

      1. American music is by far the most popular.
      2. American movies are by far the most popular.
      3. American cars are big gas guzzeling peices of shit, but when you live in europe and you have a ton of cash, an American car is what you buy.
      4. If America dropped off the map tomorrow, how long would it take before China or some other would be superpower obliterates and/or subjigates everyone on the planet? Sure, America already does this, but at least we're a little more discrete when we throw some malcontents into prison. Iran, N. Korea or China will just shoot you, and may even wipe out your whole family.

    6. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      1. Compare sales of Madonna to Mozart.
      2. Bollywood movies are far more popular.
      3. What, like a Ford? No, they buy a Ferrari, a Rolls Royce, a Bentley, a Mercedes etc.
      4. No doubt the US is a huge economy and a large successful stable democracy is a stabilising force on the whole world, but the American politic is mainly (are are some good eggs) self-serving vested interest groups and jingoistic policy so they can get re-elected (or set up more special interest groups). The US could do politics much better.

      The US is a great country, but it is not as good as it could be.

    7. Re:****ENGLAND HAVE WON THE WORLD CUP**** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Depends on how you look at it. The mark of a successful government is one that keeps its masses largely in ignorance.

      Renan and Gellner's theories of nationalism state that a certain amount of self-delusion, false history, and shared victories and defeats (real or imagined) are necessary for a nation to be truly strong. Look at cowboy vs. indian movies, Paul Revere, the American Revolution and Civil War... many people have an idea, on an academic level, what really happened; but the sense of nationality generated by a common history (again, true or not) is what makes (us) Americans so defensive when anyone comes close to bagging on us.

      It's the same thing that makes Israel so damn defensive. There's a people (Jews) with a tremendously long history, but have only had a state for less than a century. Nationalism is only about 150 years old (started by France, incidentally), but is incredibly powerful.

      From that point of view, the US government has been remarkably successful.

  4. Re:Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Bet you didn't know I have a big cock

  5. Useful, I guess by Space+cowboy · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    if only to the power and comms companies. Always useful to know more about what affects you.

    I'm not sure there's much they can *do* about solar flares though, I mean, talk about force of nature! Volumes of incandescent plasma the size of the planet being ejected are always going to be tough to deal with!

    Simon

    --
    Physicists get Hadrons!
  6. What the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From the anus of the page.

    Nietzsche is pietzsche, but Schiller is killer, and Goatse is moethe.

  7. England loves to mangle sports names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    England loves to mangle sports names. "Rounders" sounds like one of those dumb theme restaurants.

    ("Rounders! Where food and fun go together!")

    They have a rather vague and odd way to refer to soccer. There are several kinds of football (American, Aussie, Soccer, Rugby). The British rightly call Rugby Rugby, but they call Soccer "football" which is rather imprecise since it leaves you wondering which one they refer to.

    1. Re:England loves to mangle sports names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      No, 'football' always means football, as it does to the rest of the world with the exception of America, where it means some stupid game where people prance about in thick padding throwing the ball with their hands and barely using their feet. No one would ever be confused as to what someone meant in Britain if they said football, they would always mean what the Americans call 'Soccer'.

      Also, considering we invented almost all the major sports in the world, I think we have the right to call them by their original names. Especially since in general the rest of the world agrees.

      PS Baseball used to be widely played in Britain but we gave it up when we realised it was actually even more boring than cricket. Rounders is in fact slightly different, but not widely played and I don't know the details.

    2. Re:England loves to mangle sports names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Rounders is also usually played by girls.

      Even girls think it's a bit shit.

    3. Re:England loves to mangle sports names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      A guide to English sports names:

      Football: The one where you use your feet
      Rugby: The one where you pick the ball up and run with it
      Touch Rugby: Rugby for primary school children, where they stop the game every time instead of tackling
      American Football: Like Touch Rugby, but everyone wears pads because they're scared of getting hurt

  8. Heil Hitler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Your post sounded better in the original German.

    1. Re:Heil Hitler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Is that who they got their "wall" idea from?

  9. Solar flares are uninteresting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...now when it comes to stallion's "flare"....

  10. No, they did not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, they did not. Get over your obsession with "zionists" and stop making things up. Don't define your life by a desire to exterminate Jewish people.

    1. Re:No, they did not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Why not? They suck.

    2. Re:No, they did not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Offtopic but true...

  11. History lesson by gantrep · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S. intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S. intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials.

    United Press International has interviewed almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S. intelligence officials to piece together the following account. The CIA declined to comment on the report.

    While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.

    In July 1958, Qasim had overthrown the Iraqi monarchy in what one former U.S. diplomat, who asked not to be identified, described as "a horrible orgy of bloodshed."

    According to current and former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Iraq was then regarded as a key buffer and strategic asset in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. For example, in the mid-1950s, Iraq was quick to join the anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact which was to defend the region and whose members included Turkey, Britain, Iran and Pakistan.

    Little attention was paid to Qasim's bloody and conspiratorial regime until his sudden decision to withdraw from the pact in 1959, an act that "freaked everybody out" according to a former senior U.S. State Department official.

    Washington watched in marked dismay as Qasim began to buy arms from the Soviet Union and put his own domestic communists into ministry positions of "real power," according to this official. The domestic instability of the country prompted CIA Director Allan Dulles to say publicly that Iraq was "the most dangerous spot in the world."

    In the mid-1980s, Miles Copeland, a veteran CIA operative, told UPI the CIA had enjoyed "close ties" with Qasim's ruling Baath Party, just as it had close connections with the intelligence service of Egyptian leader Gamel Abd Nassar. In a recent public statement, Roger Morris, a former National Security Council staffer in the 1970s, confirmed this claim, saying that the CIA had chosen the authoritarian and anti-communist Baath Party "as its instrument."

    According to another former senior State Department official, Saddam, while only in his early 20s, became a part of a U.S. plot to get rid of Qasim. According to this source, Saddam was installed in an apartment in Baghdad on al-Rashid Street directly opposite Qasim's office in Iraq's Ministry of Defense, to observe Qasim's movements.

    Adel Darwish, Middle East expert and author of "Unholy Babylon," said the move was done "with full knowledge of the CIA," and that Saddam's CIA handler was an Iraqi dentist working for CIA and Egyptian intelligence. U.S. officials separately confirmed Darwish's account.

    Darwish said that Saddam's paymaster was Capt. Abdel Maquid Farid, the assistant military attache at the Egyptian Embassy who paid for the apartment from his own personal account. Three former senior U.S. officials have confirmed that this is accurate.

    The assassination was set for Oct. 7, 1959, but it was completely botched. Accounts differ. One former CIA official said that the 22-year-old Saddam lost his nerve and began firing too soon, killing Qasim's driver and only wounding Qasim in the shoulder and arm. Darwish told UPI that one of the assassins had bullets that did not fit his gun and that another had a hand grenade that got stuck in the lining of his coat.

    "It bordered on farce," a former senior U.S. intelligence official said. But Qasim, hiding on the floor of his car, escaped death, and Saddam, whose calf had been grazed by a fellow would-be assassin, escaped to Tikrit, thanks to CIA and Egyptian intelligence agents, several U.S. government officia

  12. Living or dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "Linux or FreeBSD, it's like blondes or brunettes. I like both."

    You forgot to mention that the brunette in this example is dead. Eechhh.....

  13. Usenet kook of the year! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you find Usenet kooks amusing check out David Tholen:

    He hangs out in rec.music.classical, although he's also active on OS/2 newsgroups.

    He writes these crazy lists of people he considers are antagonistic towards him, although even asking him a single, simple question can get you added to the list. Check it out:

    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie =U TF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=bpiesb%24r1p%241%40online.de &prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe% 3DUTF-8%26group%3Drec.music.classical

    or just search rec.music.classical for the word `antagonist`.

    He's inspired the following site.

    http://members.tripod.com/~tholen_of_borg/

  14. Delicious! by Captain+Poopypants · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Mmm... I just had a delicious kebab with fries and cool ice water. Now I'm going to grind some coffee beans and brew top-notch coffee and enjoy it with a bit of tasty chocolate. Later this evening I'm going out for a beer with friends.

    Life is good.

    1. Re:Delicious! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      There's more to life than stuffing your face you know

  15. Old tech radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Those radio amateurs, always bouncing their signals off auroral curtains .. why don't they just use a X-10 WiFi camera installed right in the shower?

  16. it's an attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Klytus, I'm bored.
    What plaything can you offer me today?

    1. Re:it's an attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      whoever modded this down is a cultureless boor

    2. Re:it's an attack by WankersRevenge · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Actually that's pretty funny. For the movie illiterate, it's a reference to Flash Gordan and the destruction of the earth via. manipulated natural events.

  17. Re:Wars and revolutions by Yokaze · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Tell me, why there is a positive correlation between stork population and birth rates in The Netherlands.

    That social unrest follows a harmonic oscillation is quite plausible, even without external factors. And that turmoil coincides is even less astonishing, especially in the last decades.

    > Why did the students of Beijing, Berlin, Warsaw, Prague, Paris, Mexico City and Berkeley take it to the streets the same year?

    Simple, they all wanted changes in their social and political systems. Their situations were different, but seeing people speak up motivates other people to speak up for their problems.

    And that an oscillation with a frequency of (11+-1)a coincides with several events in time is hardly suprising, especially when the other oscillation is (23+-3)a (from the dates you provided)

    --
    "Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
  18. LET FREEDOM RING! by Captain+Poopypants · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Protesters storm Georgia parliament!

    Supporters of the Georgian opposition storm into the country's parliament building following a demonstration.

  19. DATA MINING MY ASS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The sun spot cycle has been known for well over a half century and coming close to a century now.

    So now a days Generation X'ers, anytime that someone actually reads a book and learns something we call it "data mining"? Dam! That library is full of Data Miners..

  20. The purpose of the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The wall is to keep out invading imperialist aggressors (such as the "Palestinians" who want to invade Israel and exterminate its people). The Israelis got the idea from the ancient Chinese. There would not be a need for it if the "Palestinians" had a "live and let live" philosophy.

    The only reason the "Occupation" started is because Israel kept getting attacked from the territories. The only reason it continues is because the aggressors ("Palestinians") have refused to surrender and give up their genocidal war.