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California to Require Paper Voter Receipt

DDumitru writes "Wired reports that California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley will require all electronic voting systems be equipped with a voter-verifiable paper receipt. This receipt will not be retained by the voter, but deposited at the polls and may be used to audit electronic election results. All new voting system installed after July 1, 2005 must include the new printers. Existing systems, including the systems already installed in four counties must be retrofitted by July 2006. It looks like the public outcry about Diebold and other voting equipment manufacturers has been heard, at least in a very major market for these machines in the US. It should be very difficult for other states to not follow suit."

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  1. Re:New warning labels by jc42 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This definition needs a new entry:

    c: a government in which the supreme power is vested in an unelected court that can decide which votes are to be counted.

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  2. and it's not enough by twitter · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    The software needs to be open if not free. Paper reciepts are a great first step, but the system can still be manipulated within paper counting accuracy. For the sytem to be an improvement, it should do better and it can. Open software can be verified for the soundness of it's methods and rigourously tested by interested parties. The results of that kind of testing would be secure and accurate voting that's really better than paper.

    Closed source junk, on the other hand, is imposible to test and verify. Windoze based machines are a great example of how bad it can get. No one knows what goes on in DLL hell, no amount of testing can find all the flaws and backdoors and the inability to copy the software makes third party tesing limited if not imposible.

    Still, California is to be commended for taking this step. Closed source machines with a paper trail can only be manipulated so far. It's unlikely that upsets there will be fradulent. I can forgive them for needing a year to get it set up and working. They might be bright enough to not use the mystery vote machines before they are fixed with a paper trail. Let's hope they and Dibold take the next step and use software that people can realy trust.

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  3. Repealed in 2005 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When Schwarzenegger rigs the California rules to deliver the state's electoral votes, just like Jeb Bush in Florida 2000, Bush will have won by a "landslide". Then Scwarzenegger will replace the Sect'y of State with his own henchman, Bush will shower the state with temporary "relief", as Schwarzenegger repeals the paper-trail act, in time for the next California governor election. When that's rigged, no one will notice until the Governator is reelected in a landslide. With lame-duck Bush and lame-duck Schwarzenegger, the rape of California will make landslides, forest fires, earthquakes and apocalyptic robots from the future look like movie fantasies of paradise.

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  4. Re:you're missing the point by jc42 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... we'll have a complete paper record of who voted for who.

    Great. We have an unelected president who has clearly stated that anyone who doesn't support him will be considered a terrorist. He is holding hundreds of people incommunicado, indefinitely and without charges already. We're installing voting equipment built by a company whose CEO has promised that he can deliver the next election to Bush. And we're also going to make sure that the voting equipment can keep a record of who I've voted for.

    This really gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling about voting ...

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  5. Everyone Demands a democracy, they don't get it. by TyrranzzX · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How many slashdotters are willing to go out and march, infront of the white house with loaded guns, molitof cocktails, and the like raised to show the goverment that if they don't stop fucking with democracy, we're gonna start shooting.

    Call me a violent hippy if you must. I'm tired of this shit, they don't fucking get it. I have patience, but I don't have any patience for this kind of thing. In a democracy, you exhert force peacefully through vote. Don't like that congressman? Fine then, we'll jjust hang the lot of you and your families, plunder your bank accounts and put some people in who can actually rule. Democracy is an alternative to violent rule. Do I want a civil war? No, does the goverment want civil war? Their goin' in that direction and damn fast. Why will there be a civil war? Gattica baby, that's why. There's already a couple hundred thousand protesters in miami protesting the WTC talks, and many of them aren't young kids. Many of them are logically thinking, responsable adults who see the consequences.

    And what I REALLY FUCKING HATE is when someone says to me "Those are a bunch of stupid hippies protesting.". As if all protesters are stupid hippies. Do hippies get up in body armor, tower shields and gas masks and protect their kind in organized lines? Do hippies police their kind when they want to protest? In the 1970's millions came on capitol hill to do their work. Nowadays, if you get a couple hundred people together to protest anything you get charged with unlawful assembly and get teargassed. I always say "Those hippies are there to protect the rights you don't fucking deserve." and I mean it too. I really hate these dumbfucks and I think death is too good for them. Seriously, if you don't defend your rights you don't deserve them. It's that simple. The supreme law of nature is force, and what you're on right now bub is a lolly pop ride. If shit hit the fan you'd be dead in an instant and that's the truth of it.

    If a few hundred thousand americans showed up on the doorstep of the whitehouse, weapons and ballots raised, and demanded that their voting system be put back into order, and demanded that they don't fuck with them, the congressman would do it or order mass genocide.

    Unfortunatly, that's not happening because everyone is just talking about it and not doing anything about it. You can sign ballots till you're blue in the face and congress can hear form 100,000,000 americans through the EFF but if their pompous assholes they won't get it. Sometime a sniper rifle can say a million words.

    To fucking hell with "by 2005". How about you suspend the incorperation rights of diebold, arrest and convict the representatives and senators who were involved with the scam, and invest in a open source alternative that can easily be deployed on x86 hardware? That's about as constructive as I get at this point, folks.