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Gnome.org Desktop Integration Bounty Hunt
tempest303 writes "In order to help improve integration between apps on the Gnome desktop, Gnome.org is offering bounties for the completion of a variety of integration tasks. Bounties range from $15, for submitting new .ical files for Evolution 2.0's multiple calendar view, to $2500 for allowing synchronization between Evolution's addressbook with Gaim's buddy list!"
I see integration with GNOME a potentially bad thing. I use a bloatware-free desktop with XFCE and find that the number of programs written for GTK that increasingly use GNOME is a concern. I can comfortably run XFCE and many GTK-only apps on a P133 laptop with 32Mb of RAM, but as soon as GNOME is integrated into them (GNUmeric comes to mind), these programs get full of bloat.
We admit we are lame.
Ever since Gnome 2.4 was released, I have found more and more gnome zealots
/gnu/celeron
who MUST absolutely advocate GNOME at every possible moment. Here is a guide
to some of their claims, and what they really mean.
Unlike KDE, Gnome is free
Translation : GPL is freerer than LGPL. LGPL allows corporations like Novell
and Sun to have propeitry forks and lock away their changes from the user. Now
that Novell has taken over Ximian you can expect Gnome to get put under
corpirate lock. With KDE you have the choice, you either PAY UP or pay with
your source code.
Nautilus is much better than konqueror.
Wrong, if your using nautilus for anything more than a simple finder clone you
can forget it. No split screen, no ioslaves and forget about being able to
have a decent file dialog, not to forget that it is as unstable as hell and is
STILL slow on >3 Ghz machines.
Gnome is easier to use
Yep, nothing like using gconf-editor to edit all except the most trivial of
settings. Want tear off menus? Want a useable file dialog? You won't find it
here.
Gnome has eye candy
Yes, my pirated Win32 fonts with the patent infringing font renderer. Bit
stream vera sans looks like Tahoma put through a shreadder! Of course I still
reboot into windows to print using "Comic Sans MS.
Gnome has a new web browser
Yawb! Along with Galeon, mozilla, thunderbird, konqueror, atlantis, lynx,
netscape and w3m. Yes I need another browser! Not to mention that its got a
religiously offensive name and it dosen't allow bookmark folders. It also
crashes like a crazy! Apple chose khtml for a REASON! its stable and light!
For newbies, Gnome is the ideal choice
Despite the fact that the only mainstream Gnome based distro has been EOL'd,
and all the newbie distros such as Mangadrake, Lindoze, $u$E, Lycoris,
Xandroze, Gentoo use kde default, the Local unix geek showed me Debian, which
installed Gnome 1.4 by default, so it must be good if he uses it.
You KDE guys must be sick of the K
Our G's and monkeys are SO MUCH better, gedit, glib, gconf, bobono, ghex,
gless, same-gnome.
Gnome is themeable
Yep, choose from High, low and medium contrast, default, and clean ice. Wan't
to change the colour scheme? USE GCONF NOOB, plus if you complain about it we
will tell you to fuck off and go back to Windows or KDE.
Gnome has multimedia framework
Its a kludge of esd combined with broken xine libraries. No wonder it crashes
all the time and dosen't work on 95% of video files
My Gnome work station
My 1.1Ghz Packard Bell box my mum bought for me from PC world, that is made of
made to break components, but it has a GEFORCE RADEON 9000 card, so it must be
good.On the other hand, no-one (well, nearly no-one) is suggesting that GTK+
is a replacement for Qt...
Gnome allows mac like operation.
x86 compatible 1 button mice are almost impossible to find, and it dosen't copy
the whole macbar concept. Not to even mention their auto apply implementation
is broken and dangerous! Plus if they did actually come anywhere close to
copying the Mac the C&D letters would come flying up their asses.
Gnome is GNU software.
gnu/Yay, gnu/gnome gnu/for gnu/my gnu/debian gnu/linux gnu/500mhz
gnu/packard gnu/bell gnu/box.
Inspired by the gentoo translate-o-matic.
I wonder how Novell got Gnome to pay for developing their new email client?
Since when did GNOME become the Linux desktop? And since when did hackers need money to hack? And where does this leaves the previous claims of GNOME being "integrated"?
Why can't those making the money, i.e. Ximian / Novell / SUN do the work for their profits?
The existence of Gnome is hindering a standard Linux Desktop.
I'll gladly pay someone $20 to make sure this bloated dinosaur is made extinct.
Please die now!
If the thing was designed properly, there wouldn't be much of an issue.
Most of a 'desktop environment' important details are underneath, not the pretty GUI. ( though the importance of having a CONSISTANT GUI shouldn't be dismissed. )
They should have had mechanisms in place from DAY ONE for shared information and intercommunications.. not something that was seemingly tacked-on later..
KDE is much closer to this, as they PLANNED ahead, and didn't just wing-it since it was 'pretty'.
Sorry to sound harsh, but it was a complaint of mine from day one of GNOME, it just wasn't professional.. They worried more about a stupid foot in the menu then making it solid and consistent.. Now they are finding out the price to be paid if they want to stick around and be more then a cute plaything...
---- Booth was a patriot ----
It looks like all of the moderators are Gnome users. So far, any post that didn't clearly state how great Gnome is has been moderated as a Troll.
I know you weren't trolling but, simply stating your opinion about Gnome, which is clearly supported by the facts. But, tonight the mods are all Gnomes.
Sorry to rain on your cute little parade, but down here on planet earth, KDE has more users than all the others desktop environments and window managers put together (it's like Apache, only for desktop environments I suppose). The last major distro to make GNOME the default was Red Hat, and we all know how well it worked for them. *cough*Fedora*cough*
Useless environments are still useless if you make them as cute as GNOME. Sorry, kid.
And this has nothing to do with with C++, either, of course. I know you like to think of it that way, because it allows you to dismiss valid criticism as snubbiness, but the thing is that it's GNOME's design, not implementation, that is vastly substandard. It would be much more intelligent to fix it than to make yourself believe it's not so bad, you know.
Here's a little tidbit for you: almost all the significant improvements in GNOME over the last year came from corporate contributions. And even that wasn't enough to prevent GNOME from losing ground to the state of the art with every release.
And most of the GNOME guys will rather take the Linux desktop into half-assedness and corporate-sustained life with them rather than admit they're wrong (although I have to admit that Havoc Pennington, for one, increasingly turns to KDE-inspired designs for his latest projects, like DCOP-inspired D-BUS as the base for HAL, for instance).
This is petty, and more than a bit sick.