FreeBSD 10-Year Anniversary Tonight

regs writes "There's a free 10-year anniversary party for FreeBSD tonight. Should be an interesting place to meet-and-greet. The venue is jwz's wonderful nightclub, The DNA Lounge. Of course, if you're not in the Bay Area to start with, you probably can't make it." Bearing that in mind ...

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You folks are next.

[Anonymous Coward]

Teabaggers.

Anniversary?

[keesh]

Are we commemorating its death or something?

Re:Anniversary?

[DiSKiLLeR]

Now that was a good troll! (Much better then the typical Netcraft is showing that BSD is dying etc).

If only i had mod points :)

D.

Ooops, they made a mistake...

[Anonymous Coward]

It's actually at the DNR lounge.

PIty I wasn't Paying Attention

[szyzyg]

Being a BSD user who's also a profesisonal DJ in the Bay area..... it might have been appropriate.
Hey, I'd even put on my BSD daemon outfit I wore while performing for halloween

Then again I use linux too.

tsarkon reports on the 9 steps to freebsd from win

[Anonymous Coward]

freebsd rules! freebsd is the lord and master of serverdom

9 steps to greasing your anus for Yoda Doll Insertion!
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1. Defecate. Preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage, pickled eggs, and Vietnamese chili garlic sauce. Could be done in the Return of the Jedi wastebasket for added pleasure.
2. Wipe ass with witch hazel, soothes horrific burns. (Taco can use Hazel on mouth to soothe the horrific burns from chowing on ass so much).
3. Prime anus with anal ease. (Now Cherry Flavored for those butthole lickers amongst you - oh, that is most of /.)
4. Slather richly a considerable amount of Vaseline or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your Yoda Doll , Yoda Shampoo bottle or Yoda soap on a rope and liberally apply it.
5. Pucker your balloon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to work it in.
6. Put a nigger do-rag on Yoda's head so the ears don't stick out like daggers!
7. Make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because that is built in.
8. Slowly rest yourself onto your yoda figurine. Be careful, he's big.
9. Gyrate gleefully in your computer chair while your fat sexless geek nerd loser fat shit self enjoys the prostate massage you'll be getting. Think about snoodling with the Sarlaac pit. Read Slashdot. Masturbate to anime. Email one of the editors hoping they will honor you with a reply. Join several more dating services - this time, you dont check the (desired - speaks english) and (desired - literate). You figure you might get a chance then. Order some fucking crap from Think Geek. Get Linux to boot on a Black And Decker Appliance. Wish you could afford a new computer. Argue that IDE is better than SCSI because you cant afford SCSI. Make claims about how Linux rules. Compile a kernel on your 486SX. Claim to hate windows but use it for Everquest. Admire Ghyslain's courage in making that wonderful star wars movie. Officially convert to the Jedi religion. Talk about how cool Mega Tokyo is. Try and make sure you do your regular 50 story submissions to Slashdot, all of which get rejected because people who arent fatter than CowboyNeal can't submit. Fondle shrimpy penis while making a yoda voice and saying, feel the force, padawan, feeel the foooorce, hurgm. Yes. Yes. When 900 years you reach, a dick half as big you will not have.

All in a days work with a yoda figurine rammed up your ass.

I HAVE A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS!

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sweet!

[Anonymous Coward]

I'll be there for sure (even though it's a 4-hour drive...) My dick is getting hard already just thinking about all the hot man-on-man sex that's about to transpire.

Well, gotta go freshen up my butt-plug collection. See you all later ;-)

Re:sweet!

[Anonymous Coward]

maybe you didn't hear... Linux users aren't welcome. wait for the next penguin love-in.

Sifting through the ashes . . .

[Anonymous Coward]

The End of FreeBSD

[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.

Discussion

I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?

Shouts

To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. I

FreeBSD is dying

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't keed to be Kreskin to look into FreeBSD's future. Even a child knows that FreeBSD is dying. All major marketing surveys show that FreeBSD has steadily declined in market share. FreeBSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.

Bob Hope joins the "B" Team

[*BSD Necrophilia]

It is with a heavy heart that we must report that Bob "I'm still dead" Hope has gone on to join the "B" team. As you all may know, BSD has been part of the "B" team for quite some time.

The Year of Our Lord 2003 has been a particularly bad year for the "B"s,

• Bob Hope
• Buddy Ebsen
• Buddy Hackett
• Barry White
• BSD

This honored list of dead is but a small token of adieu from the many fans of the deceased.
These dead were truly some American Icons. They will be missed.

Only Bones Could Say It Better

[*BSD Necrophilia]

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It's Official, folks: *BSD IS Dying

[*BSD Necrophilia]

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

*BSD's Tombstone

[*BSD Necrophilia]

"Do not stand at my hard disk and forever weep.
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you reboot in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my hard disk and forever cry.
I am not there. "

Coping With The *BSD Tragedy

[*BSD Necrophilia]

Although it is true that BSD is dying, there are some helpful steps you can take ease your sorrow:

• deal with the inevitable.
  
• grieve for your loss.
  
• move on.
  Never let your emotions get mixed up with something as silly as a computer
  operating system. It isn't healthy. So BSD fails. Big whoop. Deal with it and move on.
  Hope this helps.
  
  

What do you want on your tombstone?

[Anonymous Coward]

FreeBSD? In the immortal words of DeForest Kelley:

"It's dead, Jim."

A *BSD Elegy

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

Elegy For *BSD

I am a *BSD user
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
*BSD's foot is in the grave.

I tap at my toy keyboard
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
*BSD died so soon.

Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but *BSD is dying.

Bob Hope joins the "B" Team

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

It is with a heavy heart that we must report that Bob "I'm still dead" Hope has gone on to join the "B" team. As you all may know, BSD has been part of the "B" team for quite some time.

The Year of Our Lord 2003 has been a particularly bad year for the "B"s,

• Bob Hope
• Buddy Ebsen
• Buddy Hackett
• Barry White
• BSD

This honored list of dead is but a small token of adieu from the many fans of the deceased.
These dead were truly some American Icons. They will be missed.

The Failure of *BSD

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

Of course we can all agree that BSD is a failure, but why did BSD fail Once you get past the fact that BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know BSD keeps losing market share but why Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players Or is it larger than their troubled personalities
The record is clear on one thing no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for BSD.

*BSD Has Its Feeding Tube Re-Inserted

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

Oct. 23 -- BSD resumed receiving life-sustaining care yesterday in a
Florida hospital room, but many experts said there is virtually no hope
that it will ever recover, despite it fan boy's desperate hopes.

"IF IT'S over a year, BSD's not ever going to get up," said Fred Plum, a
professor emeritus at Weill Cornell College in New York. "You'd just
don't see it. It just doesn't happen."

BSD, 39, has been in a persistent vegetative
state since its heart stopped for unknown reasons in 1990. A feeding
tube in BSD's stomach was removed this past Wednesday after its husband,
Theo De Ratt, who said his wife had told him she (BSD) would not want to
be kept alive under such circumstances, won a long series of court
battles to have life-sustaining nourishment withdrawn so she (BSD) could
die.

A *BSD Freelance Gig Continues To Have Problems

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you BSD fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a BSD box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this BSD box, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various BSD machines, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a BSD box that has run faster than its Windows counterpart, despite the BSD machines faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 800 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that BSD is a "superior" machine.

BSD addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a BSD over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.

Re:A *BSD Freelance Gig Continues To Have Problems

[Anonymous Coward]

When you're attempting to troll consistency is the key.

A Rotten *BSD Ghetto

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

BSD you grow in the ghetto, living second rate
And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate.
The places you play and where you stay
Looks like one great big alley way.
You'll admire all the numberbook takers,
Thugs, BSD pimps and pushers, and the big money makers.

An Unbiased and Truthful look at *BSD

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

SHIT ON ME! It's official - Netcraft has fucking confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another cunting bombshell hit the "community" of *BSD asswipes when IDC recently confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of one single puny fucking percent of all servers. Coming hot on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more fucking market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is ingesting itself backwards, disappearing up its very own shitter, as fittingly exemplified by coming a piss poor dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a cock-sucking Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any fucking future at all for *BSD because that sorded, shit-filled, mutated testicle of an operating system is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink splashes across the accounting documents like a series of exploding bloodfarts. FreeBSD munches the most ass of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD cuntwipes Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying and its rotting corpse smells worse than a maggot, vomit, shit and piss cocktail.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the fucking numbers, shall we? OK!

OpenBSD wanker Theo states that there are a pathetic 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Oh, God, let's fucking see... The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore it's turd-suckingly obvious that there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore, by simple fucking arithmetic, there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. Surprise fucking surprise, this is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of those arseholes at Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD showed themselves to be a bunch of retarded tossers, went out of business and were taken over by BSDI who sell another special needs OS. Now BSDI is also a miserable failure, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house... pathetic.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily fucking declined in market share. *BSD is where it belongs, at death's door and its long term survival prospects are almost non-fucking-existant. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among moronic, dilettante shitheads. *BSD continues to Chew Satan's Dick And Fuck The Baby Jesus Up The Pooper. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD IS A FUCKING USELESS WASTE OF BITS AND IS DYING LIKE THE DOG THAT IT IS. IT MAKES ME SICK JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.

Lights out, pard

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

Somewhere, in a lonely hospital room,

*BSD is dying

Don't Fear The Reaper, *BSD

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
Mac OS don't fear the reaper
Nor do the windows, SUN or the rain..we can be like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper
We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper
BSD's bought the farm....

Distro is done
Here but now they're gone
Romeo and Juliet
Are together in eternity...Romeo and Juliet
40,000 server crashes every day...Like Romeo and Juliet
40,000 workstations reformatted everyday...Redefine happiness
Another 40,000 coming everyday...We can be like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don't fear the reaper
We'll be able to fly...don't fear the reaper
BSD's bought the farm...

Love of two is one
Here but now they're gone
Came the last night of sadness
And it was clear she couldn't log on
Then the file was opened the wind appeared
The mobo blew then disappeared
The curtains flew then Jordan Hubbard and Michael Smith appeared...saying don't be afraid
Come on baby...and she had no fear
And she ran to them...then they started to fly
They looked backward and said goodbye...she had become like they are
She had taken their hand...she had become like they are
Come on baby...don't fear the reaper "

*BSD Sux0rs, Folks

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

In a startling turn of events today, a previously little-known fact came into the public eye: "*BSD Sux0rs". This came as a complete surprise to the BUWLA, or BSD Users With Large Assholes, as they previously thought that *BSD 0wned.
"You see, even though I have never contributed code to any BSD project, I thought it was my duty to be a big asshole to others which don't use the OS I do, because it just 0wnz.", said one FreeBSD user. "Now that I know it sux0rs, though, I have to go find something else to be an asshole about."

One notorious OpenBSD fanatic known as WideOpen, told reporters, "I have to kill myself. This isn't how it was supposed to happen. My BSD has always been the best, and shouting that opinion in other people's faces at every chance I got has been my only hobby. It was all I ever did. It was what got me out of bed in the morning. Now I have to die. I will jam my bedpost up my ass until I hit my brain. It is the only way to go: BSD style."

In the volatile world of operating systems anything can happen. "At least we don't sux0r as much as Windows users", BigAzz, a relatively well-known NetBSD user said. "Screaming things in people's faces is my calling. Now I need to scream that BSD sux0rs. What a sad world. At least I won't kill myself like those uber-asshole OpenBSD guys. They are just way over the top. Or were, at least."

Nobody knows for sure what the future holds for the state of operating systems, but with Netcraft confirming the sux0r status, *BSD users all over the world will have to stick something else up their asses from now on or risk looking even more gay than they used to.

*BSD's Wailing Song

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

The *BSD Wailing Song

What's left for me to see
In my ship I sailed so far
What can the answer be
Don't know what the questions are.
And after all I've done
Still I cannot feel the sun
Tell me save me
In the end our lost souls must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low.
Who knows what's really true
They say the end is so near
Why are we all so cruel
We just fill ourselves with fear.
And heaven and hell will turn
All that we love shall burn
Hear me trust me
In the end our lost sould must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low
Final curtain
Final curtain

The 10 Cold, Hard Facts About *BSD

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

1. You can not play games on it.
2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
3. It lacks a GUI of any note.
4. There is no support available for it.
5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
7. You have to compile everything and know C.
8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux.
10.It is dying.

Re:The 10 Cold, Hard Facts About *BSD

[Anonymous Coward]

You sad little man

What We Can Learn From *BSD

[*BSD Blows Chunks]

What We Can Learn From BSD
By Chinese Karma Whore, Version 1.0

Everyone knows about BSD's failure and imminent demise. As we pore over the history of BSD, we'll uncover a story of fatal mistakes, poor priorities, and personal rivalry, and we'll learn what mistakes to avoid so as to save Linux from a similarly grisly fate.

Let's not be overly morbid and give BSD credit for its early successes. In the 1970s, Ken Thompson and Bill Joy both made significant contributions to the computing world on the BSD platform. In the 80s, DARPA saw BSD as the premiere open platform, and, after initial successes with the 4.1BSD product, gave the BSD company a 2 year contract.

These early triumphs would soon be forgotten in a series of internal conflicts that would mar BSD's progress. In 1992, AT&T filed suit against Berkeley Software, claiming that proprietary code agreements had been haphazardly violated. In the same year, BSD filed countersuit, reciprocating bad intentions and fueling internal rivalry. While AT&T and Berkeley Software lawyers battled in court, lead developers of various BSD distributions quarreled on Usenet. In 1995, Theo de Raadt, one of the founders of the NetBSD project, formed his own rival distribution, OpenBSD, as the result of a quarrel that he documents on his website. Mr. de Raadt's stubborn arrogance was later seen in his clash with Darren Reed, which resulted in the expulsion of IPF from the OpenBSD distribution.

As personal rivalries took precedence over a quality product, BSD's codebase became worse and worse. As we all know, incompatibilities between each BSD distribution make code sharing an arduous task. Research conducted at MIT found BSD's filesystem implementation to be "very poorly performing." Even BSD's acclaimed TCP/IP stack has lagged behind, according to this study.

Problems with BSD's codebase were compounded by fundamental flaws in the BSD design approach. As argued by Eric Raymond in his watershed essay, The Cathedral and the Bazaar, rapid, decentralized development models are inherently superior to slow, centralized ones in software development. BSD developers never heeded Mr. Raymond's lesson and insisted that centralized models lead to 'cleaner code.' Don't believe their hype - BSD's development model has significantly impaired its progress. Any achievements that BSD managed to make were nullified by the BSD license, which allows corporations and coders alike to reap profits without reciprocating the goodwill of open-source. Fortunately, Linux is not prone to this exploitation, as it is licensed under the GPL.

The failure of BSD culminated in the resignation of Jordan Hubbard and Michael Smith from the FreeBSD core team. They both believed that FreeBSD had long lost its earlier vitality. Like an empire in decline, BSD had become bureaucratic and stagnant. As Linux gains market share and as BSD sinks deeper into the mire of decay, their parting addresses will resound as fitting eulogies to BSD's demise.

Stick a fork it in it

[Anonymous Coward]

This bitch is dead.

Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

What do you poor *BSD people do to deserve this? All the trolls, I mean. I guess there is no denying there are a lot of bad attitudes, but is it so much worse than the Linux community?

Although this is surely its more than one poor idiot who got a one liner patch to ls rejected and has a chip on his shoulder. Then again, maybe not - I underestimate the power of the nerd scorned...

Re:Holy shit

[deek]

• What do you poor *BSD people do to deserve this? All the trolls, I mean. I guess there is no denying there are a lot of bad attitudes, but is it so much worse than the Linux community?

You mean all the BSD is dying posts? It's not as if anyone takes it seriously. I hope not, anyway. All I see it as, is a bit of cheeky banter between the Linux and BSD fans. The BSD people give it as well as receive it, y'know.

Re:Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

What do you poor *BSD people do to deserve this? All the trolls, I mean. I guess there is no denying there are a lot of bad attitudes, but is it so much worse than the Linux community?

Newsflash for you: it is the Linux community which is doing all the trolling. Who knows whether it's envy, spite, or just plain malice... but the Linux Fanboy Club of America certainly wants *BSD to go away.

Re:Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

I tend to get the feeling that the people who troll BSD genuinely dislike some BSD or have some personal reason to do so (other than being stupid).

Whether or not they use Linux is besides the point. That is not the reason they are trolling.

They might have a higher chance of using Linux if for example, they asked a newbie question on a BSD list can were told to RTFM, and promptly switched to Linux, or they got sick of BSD users telling them how much faster BSD runs Linux binaries than Linux does... I don't know.

I mean lets face it - no disrespect to BSD, but Linux's biggest threat is Windows. So its about attitudes rather than the technical merits of the OS.

Re:Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

No this is something different. There is cheeky banter between rational Linux and BSD fans, and then there are these deranged people spending hours writing these elaborate trolls and fishing around for old ones, and spending all this time posting them EVERY time a BSD story is posted. No, I don't take it seriously of course... you have to feel sorry for them in a way.

Re:Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

What did BSD fans do to deserve it?

How about this: spewing endless rhetoric about how BSD is somehow more "stable" than Linux (cannot be proved, and my Debian and Slackware boxes have never crashed), how the GPL prevents people from selling commercial software (hello Brett Glass), and all sorts of other nonsense.

BSD is great, but the zealots are laughable.

Re:Holy shit

[Anonymous Coward]

The BSD community has the largest concentration of self-righteous condescending assholes on the face of the Earth. BSD tends to attract those types, dunno why.

Ridiculous

[Shaklee39]

This is getting out of hand, the last 30 or so comments have all been bsd is dying trolls. Maybe censorship isn't such a bad thing?

Re:Ridiculous

[Anonymous Coward]

It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dead

Re:Ridiculous

[Anonymous Coward]

"Score:2, Interesting" given to a comment suggesting that censorship is a good thing.

Only on Slashdot!

Re:Ridiculous

[Anonymous Coward]

Not only do they share the bsd-is-dying theme, they seem to have been copy 'n' pasted from other bsd-is-dying trolls. Though it's nice to see some poems and stuff... the linux camp is pretty creative aren't they?

*sigh* What a bunch of insensitive zealots... get over it, some day linux will die too. The only way you can displace *BSD and keep your linux alive is to write better code, and not just shitting here and dissing other OSes that are also in the open source camp.

Re:Ridiculous

[Incompetent Troll]

The only way you can displace *BSD and keep your linux alive is to write better code

Or they could just continue doing what they're doing, since they've already managed to destroy *BSD.

Re:Ridiculous

[Shanep]

This is getting out of hand, the last 30 or so comments have all been bsd is dying trolls. Maybe censorship isn't such a bad thing?

I didn't know about these particular trolls today until I read your post (I am browsing at 1). So I guess a person censoring what they want to see is probably best.

Re:Ridiculous

[Shanep]

censoring what they want to see

Oops, sorry. Should be "censoring what they don't want to see".

EVERYBODY CELEBRATE!

[Incompetent Troll]

There will be a reception after the funeral.

I don't understand

[Anonymous Coward]

Would some one please clue me in to why people have such a negative view of BSD's? I just dont understand. I use FreeBSD for something every day, and it has'nt failed on me yet.

Re:I don't understand

[Anonymous Coward]

It's one guy who was laid off from Walnut Creek, back in the days when they coordinated FreeBSD.

It's been years since he was fired, and the bitterness still fills him to the point where, when he has saved up a few dollars (earned one painful quarter at a time, through acts I will not bother describing) he drags his unemployed ass from underneath the overpass he calls home, to the bus station, so he can vent his bile through an internet terminal.

Each posted rant makes the pain go away for a brief moment, as he gloats and curses.

Surely you do not begrudge this broken shell of a man his moments of solace? They are painfully earned, and the only thing that keeps him alive.

Re:I don't understand

[Incompetent Troll]

If you really believe all the anti-BSD posts are from one individual you are a sad, pathetic man.

Re:I don't understand

[Anonymous Coward]

If you can't see the sarcasm and humor behind that, so are you.

Fucken Typical

[Anonymous Coward]

You want to wipe out every opposing view about the usefulness of *BSD. Censorship is ALWAYS a bad thing.

If you don't want to read negative views about *BSD then read at +5, like all you elite *BSD users do anyway.

BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

I have been a user of linux since about 1995 and I've had experience with several distributions, and have found NONE that compare with FreeBSD. I used Debian up until two months ago when I finally switched to using FreeBSD full-time. I switched because the *BSD's are much more of an integrated system than Linux is. This enables them to have much better security, a cleaner design, easier to admin, more stability, etc.

I like linux but in most cases the system is being held together with bailing wire and duck tape. For instance, the Debian project cannot even secure thier own servers as shown by Friday's attack!

Re:BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

You dumb faggot, I'll kick your teeth in!

Re:BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

Debian has always been quite a reliable OS. There must be reasons why the server has been compromised. We'll still have to see whether their boxes were actually hacked or not.

I like linux but in most cases the system is being held together with bailing wire and duck tape. For instance, the Debian project cannot even secure thier own servers as shown by Friday's attack!

Just because you are involved in a car accident, does it means that you suck at driving?

Re:BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

Until you want to update your kernel and then you can't until you update all the user space tools. You also can't update to the latest ports without upgrading to unstable.

What took you so long to switch to FreeBSD anyway?

Re:BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

For instance, the Debian project cannot even secure thier own servers as shown by Friday's attack!

They weren't hacked. One of the Deb folks wasn't careful enough with their password.

Re:BSD IS COOL

[Anonymous Coward]

I am a FreeBSD user and have made the switch in 1999. Just because I have used Debian and other linux distros doesn't mean I have to act like some of the linux folks and shout, "Linux is dying!" We BSD people have class and play nice.

This is inexplainable

[grilo]

If *BSD is so bad, why do people keep trolling it and trying to bash it, and say "oh, look, our linsux/winblows is better than *BSD".

It's about time people start getting a grip!

I for one would like to have the financial resources to allow myself an indulgency as to participate in BSD's 10 years party.

Re:This is inexplainable

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not inexplainable at all. There are those who see the BSDs as threats to their belief. There are those who think that their OS is superior, and that everyone else who doesn't use that particular OS are losers.

You can hardly expect a truely elite hacker to stir this kind of shit up... it is those self-proclaimed script kiddies having no clue how difficult it is to write a reliable OS who do all the talk.

Just have a look at what Alan Cox said about the BSDs, people... you'd be suprised that one of your Linux.God is not a BSD-bashing bloke.

Re:This is inexplainable

[Anonymous Coward]

Err, big deal. Have a look at what practially all BSD developers say about Linux.

Re:This is inexplainable

[Anonymous Coward]

Err, big deal. Have a look at what practially all BSD developers say about Linux.

You mean... nothing? You Linux people can have your little play-time in the sandbox. But when you fill your sandbox so full of shit that it overflows, don't come and shit in ours.

We will not miss much ;)

[raghuram]

I guess we will not miss much, atleast if you have a broadband lying around. http://www.dnalounge.com/cam/ and watch the live webcast.

I better grab my beer from the fridge.

Ram.

why bother?

[thehive]

If all the people crying above about BSD being dead why bother about it, why write about? If you people think your favourite OS is better than BSD think again, since i don't think windows, linux or BSD are the cutting edge OS'es. As for *BSD is dying. The latest Netcraft survey shows over 2 million active sites, and almost 4 million active hostnames all running on FreeBSD. Combined with the report that 5 of the top 10 hosting companies in terms of reliability were FreeBSD based.

Re:why bother?

[Anonymous Coward]

Indeed. Nobody cries "JFK is dead" because everybody knows it to be true. The louder the "BSD is dying" trolls shout, the more it becomes obvious that BSD is, in fact, quite healthy and they are only trolling because it's certainly not going away as they want.

Re:why bother?

[kirkjobsluder]

Well, it looks like the trolls have had their desired response. After all, there are more posts about the trolls than about the party.

Wish I could be there..

[rf0]

but at that time I will be safely tucked up in bed. Anyway way to go FreeBSD. Have a drink on me

Rus

I just hope

[the real darkskye]

that all the cvs trees have had a code freeze before the party starts and for the rest of the week, I don't want no drunken/hungover commits breaking my builds ;)

WTG FreeBSD, have a 10 year old single malt from the 51st State

Re:I just hope

[Carnildo]

Which 51st state is that?

Re:I just hope

[the real darkskye]

The one on the other side of the Atlantic Pond, known as The Untided Kingdom ... or was it United, I forget

Please bring your own shovel...

[Anonymous Coward]

We may may run out during the actual burials.

Beer provided though.

Re:Please bring your own shovel...

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, there are a lot of bloated penguins to bury aren't there?

RIP Linux.

Dual Booting is cool!

[kolombangara]

Talking about dead, I am forced to use PaintCan Linux on a server at work and my brain cells retract from the mundane normalcy that Windows users tearfully regard as genius and challenging.

Then there are the Second Level Support guys dual-booting XP ~PRO~ (gotta say PRO) and 3 versions of Linnux. I can't behold how cool they are.

PROBLEM WITH BSD-aftert the install, it runs forever and you never need to log in again. Good for Linnux and Windows "perpetual destroy and repair" admins, which they inadvertently break their own daily and in spite of themselves get the extra funds and headcount to maintain the business.

BSD is jewel, Linux is a Wal-Mart T-Shirt.

DNA Lounge & BSD

[Anonymous Coward]

I like BSD; I do not like Jamie's freaky friends.

Re:DNA Lounge & BSD

[gr]

That's okay.

I'm pretty sure they don't like you either, based on what they were saying on IRC about the music requests at the FBSD party...

Amazing

[Anonymous Coward]

Amazing that 99% of these trolls are made by the same asshole who has gone in and created special /. IDs for the occasion.

And if BSD is dead, how do you explain that it's at least five times as prevalent on the desktop as Lame-UX?

Re:Amazing

[Anonymous Coward]

5 times? source please.

YHBT YHL FOAD

[Anonymous Coward]

YHBT YHL FOAD

FreeBSD is dying

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't keed to be Kreskin to look into FreeBSD's future. Even a child knows that FreeBSD is dying. All major marketing surveys show that FreeBSD has steadily declined in market share. FreeBSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The erosion of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.