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Blowfish Poison Derivative Could Be A Painkiller

Makarand writes "According to this Reuters article, a Vancouver (Canada) based company is testing a painkiller derived from blowfish poison. The drug has passed two phases of clinical tests and during testing it could ease pain in terminally ill cancer patients with a dosage of few micrograms. The drug is a sodium channel blocker and works by stopping nerves from sending pain signals to the brain. The company says that the drug does not have the side effects of morphine and is non-addictive. A single blowfish can provide about 600 doses of this drug."

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  1. Nature by $exyNerdie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We have so much to learn from nature !!

    For example, the use of leeches in in surgeries where increasing circulation and inhibiting clotting are critical, such as reconstructive surgery after breast cancer.
    Leeches have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva which increases blood flow through traumatized tissue, helping to keep it alive during lengthy surgeries. Leeches even come with a natural anesthetic and antibiotic to help break down clots and keep the blood flowing.

    1. Re:Nature by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny how the medical field is quick to adopt things like leeches, but when it comes to medical marijuana, they don't want to legalize it because "it's not an isolated and purified medication".

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    2. Re:Nature by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      funny how the layman has an opinion but doesn't respect the experts in the respective field because he has been drip-fed 'revolutionary' ideas by CNN, hippies, etc who want to get the glory but do not put in the effort to see if it works.

      Funny how the layman makes bold assumptions that make way for long diatribes.

      The grandparent's post was completely valid, insofar as there at least exists a double standard for "nature's" cures. Research on the medicinal effects (primary and "side") of marijuana is virtually absent because researchers are afraid of federal agents in ski masks kicking down their doors.

      And yet you still suggest we should trust the experts, even though they admit to having virtually no studies to base any conclusions on.

      STFU.

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    3. Re:Nature by Mod+Me+God · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is a very simple trawl of BBC news over the past couple of months:

      A link here (about MS), another here (about Alzheimer), another here about epileptics, some say it kills pain, oh, and here is something saying it may be available with a year. And this is a very simple search of the BBc website. How about searching the medical research council or even the medicine department of your local college.

      This amount of material in (a tiny section of) the public domain being "virtually no studies to base any conclusions on" is just false. Medical studies take time but there are plenty being done.

      Don't take the cr4p commercial providers throw at you, they want you to think they and you are right and everything else is wrong, so you trust and follow them more. Don't be a fool.

      STFU etc etc, nice to copy another's sign-ogg, isn't it? And here I could be talking about important things like Gentoo.

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    4. Re:Nature by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I was under the impression it was many in the medical field pressing for legalising marijuana for exactly that reason, and it was politicians who were generally opposed.

      Also in my experience doctors tend to be more wary of anything that remotely resembles "alternative" medicines, for usually unsurprising reasons - leeches? I suspect anyone making a drug based on leeches is going to go to great pains to disguise that fact...

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    5. Re:Nature by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are some government shills in the medical field that go on political shows and present such arguments.

      Interestingly, it's by no means every government employed MD, there are many within the NIH and other government organizations who have rational ideas about illegal drugs, they are just regularly ignored if they speak out.

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    6. Re:Nature by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      That's interesting. This problem also bleeds into nutrition. The USDA-approved American diet is widely criticized by most doctors and nutritionists that study diet and health extensively. IANAV (I am not a vegan, or even a vegetarian), but studies indicate that virtually every patient with adult onset diabetes who has adopted an all-natural vegan diet has been cured of diabetes.

      I hate to automatically assume the worst, but it would seem that from a health care standpoint, healthy individuals make much worse customers. There could be more than just arrogance involved when doctors refuse to consider alternative treatment, whether it's illegal drugs or diets that don't follow the USDA norm.

      In the case of illegal drugs, perhaps doctors are reluctant to push treatments that the federal government would never legalize. Every politician knows that the infamous "drug war" is a complete failure, but to merely suggest legalization is political suicide.

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    7. Re:Nature by Ieshan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nobody's doing leeches as a recreational drug. Putting marijuana into pharmacies has a huge social implication far beyond it's medical effectiveness.

  2. so how many.. by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Funny

    first thought it be a crypto article?

    and of the new drug, let the stimutacs jokes roll! sealab kicks ass!

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  3. Does it mean... by Jesrad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it mean I can now order some Fugu sashimi from the local chemist ?

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  4. So 600 doses... by BoomerSooner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    will run about $500/per dose? Remember recouping R&D is expensive.

  5. While you wait... by XenonChloride · · Score: 3, Informative

    While you wait for the order, read a bit about Tetrodotoxin, which was the Molecule of the Month in November 1999.

  6. Netcraft Survey Reports... by ActiveSX · · Score: 2, Funny

    BSD is dea... Wait a second. Poison? Drugs? Biotech? Shit, wrong topic.

  7. TTX by yet+another+coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tetrodotoxin is commonly used in biomedical research to silence neurons. It blocks sodium channels. I had wondered in the past why it did not exist as a drug for humans.

    There are many sodium channel blocking anesthetics available now. The drugs that end in -caine are mostly sodium channel blockers. Benzocaine, novacaine and lidocaine are examples.

    From the article, it seems that TTX is being investigated for general systemic use rather than as a local anesthetic. There are only vague mentions of injections. I would appreciate more information about the drug's indications and delivery.

  8. And the impact of psychological pain? by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Morphine and other opiates are bad because they depress the entire central nervous system -- they deaden everthing. Yet this is also a good quality for treating certain patient cases mentioned by the article. The problem with a blowfish analgesic is that it will alleviate physical pain, but do nothing for the psychological pain of terminal illness. Whereas morphine will make you forget your troubles, blowfish medicine will leave you clearheaded to consider your fate.

    Otherwise, blowfish medicine might do wonders for pain associated with surgery and trama. And, its nonaddictive nature might help doctors be less stingy with painkillers. Unfortunately, there remains the issue of whether managed care will cover the costs for mere pain control.

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  9. Cool, first zombies, now this by ralphus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Tetrodotoxin is pretty neat stuff. I recall years ago reading The Serpent and the Rainbow about Harvard ethnobotanist, Wade Davis' adventures with Haitian voodoo culture and exploring the uses of tetrodotoxin to create zombies. Don't let the cheesy fictional movie fool you, the book is legitimate ethnobotany and well worth a read.

    Anyhow, tetrodotoxin fascinated me then, and it does now. Maybe someday I'll be in Japan and actually get to try Fugu and have a first hand experience with a light consumption of tetrodotoxin.

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  10. Hmmmm by aphexbrett · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see why this is news worthy. Just about *every* single drug today has its origins in some marine life (or bacteria/mold). For instance, many research groups get millions of grant dollars flying to remote areas, cutting up the local inhabitants, and then running cell assays on them. If they make it through a certain number of assays (generally for cytoxicity, but others exist) then they publish the info. Just check out the Journal of Natural Products. Issues upon issues of this stuff. The interesting stuff comes later, when the synthetic organic chemists try to create these things artificially, generally in really low yields. In fact, a project I was working on was the synthesis of a marine ladder toxin that is one of the active compounds in red tide catastrophes (see this book). It too blocks sodium ion channels. Probably the most famous cancer fighting compound, taxol, is isolated from the bark of the pacific yew tree.

  11. Re:What about.... by yet+another+coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Cocaine is a good local anesthetic. It used to be popular for ear procedures. Taken systemically, it acts on the dopaminergic system to get a person really, really high.

  12. Re:Nature: Natural != Safe by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We have so much to learn from nature !!

    An excellent point, but we need to be cautious. Although we have many medicines derived from natural sources, these natural substances require just as much scrutiny as man-made synthetic ones. Most natural medicines are derived from what amounts to chemical weapons created by organisms to either kill/disable prey or kill/sicken predators. As such, they can have nasty side-effects.

    A blowfish, leech, or cannibis plant does not care if a person gets cancer 10 years later, suffers permanent neurological damage, or occasionally dies abruptly. In many cases, extreme toxic reactions are the entire point of the chemical. On the one hand, humans have millions of years of evolution to adapt to these natural chemicals. On the other hand, these organisms have had millions of evolution to create ever nastier defensive/offensive chemicals.

    Even long-used natural medicines can be unsafe. Very few cultures have had the inclination and record-keeping skills to correlate medicine consumption with long-term illnesses like cancer, dementia, heart disease, liver disease, etc. Very few cultures have had the numerical sample size to detect medicines that might be fatal on a rare but consistent basis. Despite a multi-thousand-year history of use, it was only in the last few decades that we uncovered the link between willow bark (aspirin) and Reyes syndrome (which is rare but fatal for children).

    Just because something is natural, does not make it safe. Whether blowfish toxin or leech saliva make a good medications will take millions of dollars of clinical research and then perhaps millions of patients to discover.

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  13. But.... by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know this is all in the name of science, but what's Hootie gonna do without the rest of the band?

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