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More Damning SCO Evidence At Groklaw

An anonymous reader writes "There's a very interesting story up at Groklaw right now. PJ reports on new evidence that Chris Hellwig, a SCO employee, contributed code to SMP, XFS, and JFS and did so with the knowledge of his supervisor." Groklaw is thorough, and this is another good example of just quite how thorough.

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  1. what!!! by meatpopcicle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this is true and is proven to be true, heads will roll, namely SCO's.

    After all this, I can't believe that this has come out, it doesn't surprise me in this day and age of sleazy business tactics, but this is really low. They should be ashamed of themselves.

    I hope the FBI, DoJ and Stock Exachange Commission get involved now as it looks like pumpndump, Fraud, extortion, and slander to me.

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  2. Re:Conspiricy theory by rknop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think I'm the only person thinking this: what if SCO planted their code in Linux? Maybe they were planning this all along.

    Occam's Razor for conspiracy theorists suggests that one should never ascribe to conspiracy what can be ascribed to incompetence. SCO/Caldera submtted a bunch of code to the Linux kernel. Much later, Darl and company come along, see code in the Linux kernel that matches code they have copyright, and without a clue about what they are doing, thing that they've found a goldmine.

    Assuredly SCO has given ample evidece of being blindingly incompetent in the past, such that sheer incompetence is hands-down the most plausible explanation here.

    -Rob

  3. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The can hardly do that. They were quite proud of it at the time.

  4. Re:Old news by ninejaguar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    SCO will simply claim they had no idea where this code originated for at the time and so never sanctioned its official distribution.

    Any judge who believes a company that suddenly claims ignorance after years of marketing Linux under the GPL, unlimited access to Linux source-code, and now proof of Linux code submissions, should have his financials investigated just to be sure his rulings don't return a profit.

    = 9J =

  5. Re:Leave SCO alone you communists. by aws4y · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And of course, you all convieniently ignore IBM's counter suit which includes patent violations for stuff the slashdot crowd would ordinarily claim were "obvious".

    I'll bite

    You are forgetting the fact that these patents were not enforced until SCO picked the fight. Also SCO never asked for clarification, they just filed suit. IBM probly has some hideous patents hidden in its massive fortress of leagal solitude. I feel no remose for the kid punces the 800lb gorilla in the face, and then claims to be the victm when he gets his ass kicked.

    As for Communisim, since when is doing your own thing communism, I like, enjoy and profit from open source software. In a way it is the Nash Equilibrium, in which we do not only what is best for us, but also what is best for the group. Now this is decidedly not communistic, its enlightened self intrest. After all its free as in freedom, do you horde your speech?

    I am done, so why don't you take your troll energy and post some goatse links.

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  6. great but necessarily sufficient? by nudicle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    These discoveries are all great for the side of what is good and right, but unless I am mistaken (which I have been plenty of times in the past...), all this looks devastatingly bad but is only necessarily so if, when SCO reveals specifically, as in line by line, what code it's formally claiming to have a beef with.

    Which is to say, couldn't they conceivably claim issues with JCS, NUMA, RCU, and SMP code that's simply separate from what their boy Hellig was working near?

    I realize that either way their argument is crap but it, if they are going to pull something like that, it's crap that they can still, albeit insultingly, disingenuously, and vexatiously, hold onto their claims and simply fail to admit what obvious liars they are?

    Just wondering.

  7. Re:i really can't wait until all of this is over . by WaltFrench · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the only thing we have to fear from the whole sco debacle is discouragement...

    Let me nominate distraction as the biggest risk. Whenever one has had to circle the wagons, the resumed journey is never the same. A wonderful model of meritocracy may be forever changed into a quasi corporate structure -- at the extreme, leading to a world where Legal has to vet everything before its release.

    This needn't be a negative, just acknowledgement that linux must evolve in an unexpected way, in order to survive and prosper in this unexpected New World. Still, I shed a tear.

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    "Inquiring Minds Want to Know!"
  8. Re:Internet archive by cdunworth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think it would even matter if they could claim "that's not really us". If some previous holder of the SysV source code rights knowingly contributed their "derivative works" (JFS, NUMA, etc.) under the GPL, the game is up -- whether that is the same company as today's holder or not.