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Laser System to be Tested in Boulder, CO

luv_jeeps writes "Ball Aerospace is going to test fire a laser beam on Sunday night, as part of the CALIPSO project. If you live in the Colorado/Wyoming area, chances are good that you could see it. The article, a little light on details, says that the beam could be as big around as a basketball hoop."

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  1. Re:I for one am excited by mr_tommy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well the US army has been testing a airbourne lazer for a while now which shoots down (well supposedly) missiles in flight. I think they got it to work on the ground, no to get it to work on a 747.

  2. Re:Birds? by p3tersen · · Score: 5, Informative
    I also wonder if this laser is powerfull enough to fry a bird.


    The article says it's "about 40,000 times more powerful than a laser pointer", and 40k*5mW=200 watts. Since the beam diameter is "the size of a basketball hoop", nothing would be bursting into flames, although serious eye damage - to birds or pilots - could result.

    Although come to think of it, for a LIDAR application I guess the beam is probably pulsed, so the situation is a bit more complicated. At any rate there's a safety shutoff mechanism as someone else pointed out.
  3. Re:Light on details? by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because dust particles or water droplets can reflect it; furthermore, the atmosphere will disperse it. FYI, the sky appears bright because it disperses light (it disperses blue the most and red the least. This is why the sky appears blue during the day and red/orange/yellow/gold/your-favorite-sunset-color when the sun is low in the sky).

    In summary, you would see a bright enough beam in the atmosphere even if there were no dust in the air.

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  4. Re:See Infrared? by p3tersen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually (from the project info page):

    Ball will provide an active sensor that probes the atmosphere with green and infrared laser light

    They're using IR (almost certainly 1064 nm) and green (almost certainly 532 nm) beams.

  5. Re:See Infrared? by Karrots · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes the Satellite may have Infared on it but it also has Lidar which is Laser Radar. My local university has a lidar setup (or the green beam as its called around here). See the Utah State University link below.

    Its used for atmospheric observations.

    Utah State University - This page seems to be down at the moment
    University of Western Ontario - Here is another University with one

  6. Too many scifi movies by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is, after all, what one hears when a lightning bolt strikes.

    The "common laser pointer" they talk about is one milliwatt(mW). That means their laser is 40W, common in industrial laser applications.

    A lightning bolt contains roughly enough power to light an entire city for a second or two; it's about a million volts, and about 10,000 amps on average. That's a -trillion- watts. We're talking a MINOR difference in scale here, my friend. A lightning bolt makes a noise because it turns the air around it into superhot plasma, along with any moisture(which expands thousands of times its original volume when vaporized).

    If the satellite were to receive that much energy, it'd explode instantaneously, and no, you -wouldn't- hear it, it's in SPACE, there's no AIR, so there's no SOUND- just wanted to get that straightened out, since you seem to have slept through most of your high school and college science classes.

    I cannot -believe- the parent got modded up...

  7. Re:RTFA by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The laser system is equipped with radar that will shut down the system in the event that an object is about to enter the laser beam."

    How does it work? Does it work? I don't know, but those are the precautions they say they've taken.

  8. Re:Those damn scientific standards... by The+Spanish+Ninja · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm American, but I don't play sports, so I looked it up. A basketball hoop is about 46cm in diameter. (That's 18 inches for those of you who don't understand metric)

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  9. Re:LASER ? by Dyslexicon · · Score: 5, Informative

    you're thinking of red lasers. Red light passes through air much better than the higher frequencies (blue, green, yellow, etc). A great example of this is the color of the sky. Light from the sun passing through the atmosphere has its blue components scattered much more readily than the lower freqency components, so you see the sky as being blue. When the sun is rising/setting you see the sky as red because red light isn't scattered well the red light that reaches your eyes is much more intense

    so, why are these people using green light that they know will be scattered? Because that's exactly what tells us stuff about the atmosphere!how much was scattered at position x compared to position y? how much was scattered at time t1 as compared to time t2?

    The pollution causes more light to be scattered, for sure, but that's not WHY you see the light. Rest easy :)

  10. Re:The Allan Parson's Project, Phase 1 by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Informative
    From this NASA page, the CALIPSO laser is identified as a Nd:YAG, diode-pumped, Q-switched laser. The repetition rate is 20 Hz, and the operating wavelengths are 1064 nm (infrared) and the frequency-doubled 532 nm (visible, green.)

    There's a PDF here that describes the prototype laser as delivering 110 mJ per pulse. At 20 pulses per second, that's about 2 watts average power--but of course the peak power in each (short) pulse will be much higher.

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