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Top 10 Linus Quotes on SCO

An anonymous reader noted LinuxWorld running an entertaining little Top Ten SCO-related "Linusisms. If you're new to the story, you might find these insightful... but you're reading this site on a sunday, so you probably will find them more amusing than informative.

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  1. Another reason to like Linux... by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our guy is one witty bastard.

    I was watching that video someone took in the stands of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer doing that Matrix spoof, and the people gigglechuckling like idiots as that unimaginative crap unfolded. It's hard not to take as a guilty pleasure that we can hold our software's creator to a higher standard of comedy, in addition to software quality, pricing options, etc.

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    Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...

    1. Re:Another reason to like Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Curiously, I don't find him all that more (or less) witty than most people I know, hackers or not, geeks or not.

      However he certainly doesn't have the corporate image to upkeep like Gates, Ballmer, McBride, whoever. He's just like a normal guy I might hang out with for a while.

      The fact he's STILL like that is why I think he's pretty neat.

    2. Re:Another reason to like Linux... by Saeger · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The fact he's STILL like that is why I think he's pretty neat.

      Yeah, most people are expected to shed their personality and their idealism after a certain point, hence the saying: "never trust anyone over 30."

      People who don't "sell out" are often called man-children, or homeless, (or democrats :)

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      Power to the Peaceful
  2. demigod by potpie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linus, as awesome as I thought he was before, has definitely risen from "personal hero" to "demigod."

    Any company that attempts to hijack an entire open operating system as its own deserves whatever punishments and/or mockery Linus and legislation can dole out.

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    Esoteric reference.
  3. Re:11th Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why is this redundant when:

    1. It is the first repost with links (plain text sucks).

    2. It was respondong to a request.

    3. The article was /.ed, but later restored (probably had more bandwidth allocated), see all the /.ed comments occurred in a tight space of time.

    4. It was an AC, not a karma whore.

    All of the above make this +5 informaive and mods -1 on crack (linus's #2).

  4. what Linus may not understand... by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What Linus may not understand is that many "Adults" in America have actually grown _down_ since childhood. McBride takes, "gimme gimme gimme mommy he won't gimme" to the next level, ie. the "Adult" level.

    Pretty fucking pathetic when you sit back and read the garbage SCO has spewed, and also very sad that it's coming from people who have far more money than most of us will ever have.

    Ironic that the U.S. legal system that was founded on principles of personal responsibility now rewards immaturity and greed.

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    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
  5. In all fairness... by cperciva · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "With open source, there is a lot of daylight. A lot of people looking at the code. You don't really go around and steal things."

    With open source, lots of people are looking at the code. If there's a bug, people will find it (well, that's the theory, at least).

    I'm not convinced that lots of people are looking at where the code came from. To take FreeBSD Update as an example, I've engaged in lots of lengthy discussions about technical issues, but nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"

    1. Re:In all fairness... by stefanb · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"
      Things do get noticed. The original author most likely is going to find out eventually, and then your reputation is on the line.

      I don't expect to stay in my current job, or with my current employer, until I retire (winning the lottery nonwithstanding).

      I probably wouldn't want to work for a company where the hiring manager would not be Googling my name for references, especially since I have listed minor contributions to FreeBSD in my resume. So, basically, if I do screw up with a contribution, or worse, hide the fact that I copied some code when I wasn't allowed to, I will have a harder time getting a good job. At least in terms of job satisfaction, instead of just compensation.

      There's at least one current case in the FreeBSD community (but not in CVS) where authorship is questionable that I'm aware of, so it does happen. And I'm confident the guys can work out their differences, especially since the origin of the code is so obvious, and the added value by the second developer is significant; re-adding the original copyright can not be that hard.

  6. Re:Linus' successor by rgmoore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    At least Marcello has the excuse that he's not a native English speaker. I guess you could say the same thing about Bush, though; he speaks Texan. It's interesting, though, that Linus is so much more articulate than Darl McBride even though English must be at least his third language (after Swedish and Finnish).

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    There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.

  7. US and Personal Responsibility... by Avihson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Ironic that the U.S. legal system that was founded on principles of personal responsibility now rewards immaturity and greed."

    That is the chance you take when you value freedom over Iron-fisted government rule. You have to watch out for creeping bureaucracy. There are provisions to reset the whole mess, I just hope we can limp along for a few more decades before we have to remove all of the scum from power and start over.

    The opposite of democracy is bureaucracy.

    1. Re:US and Personal Responsibility... by Codifex+Maximus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > if we valued "freedom", then we wouldn't ahve
      > all sorts of things like min. wage laws,
      > mandatory health benefits, anti-discrimination
      > laws, welfare, soc. security, etc.

      The invisible hand can be cruel.

      There is an accelleration factor involved. Those with money have the capital to make more money and take advantage of opportunities. This factor multiplies - the more money they have... the more money they can make. Money equals power as much as information does - information is merely another form of currency.

      An unregulated "FREE" market will eventually devolve into a scenario where we are all serfs working for a sole corporate king. We are already looking at a situation where corporations are more "EQUAL" than your average joe/jane citizen. Question: How many of us can afford to hire a lobbyist? How much can you afford to bribe.. er fund a govt offical's reelection campaign?

      As for the lottery.. it is merely another tax on the poor.

      > they can still be liable. (and we wonder why
      > drugs are so expensive!!)
      Oh... let's not sue the poor underpriveleged drug companies for harmful side effects of certain drugs. As an aside: I am for a cap on rediculous damage awards. Problem is... how do we define rediculous?

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      Codifex Maximus ~ In search of... a shorter sig.
    2. Re:US and Personal Responsibility... by Avihson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Boston tea party was in 1773, Lexington Green in 1775. The Declaration was signed in '76, and the constitution signed 17 sept 1787.

      Pushing the Reset Button on a government takes thought, planning and time.
      Nothing to undertake lightly especially when there are ways to correct abuses built in to the present system.

  8. Re:My favorite part of the article... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I thought the subliminal message being projected by that ad was funny (assuming it's the same one I've seen). They deliberately picked a guy that looks old and obstinate. The implication they are trying to make is that Unix and its sysadmins are obsolete washed up fuddy-duddies, and they need to migrate to Windows now before they get laid off.

    I think that more than trying to sell this particular software product, Microsoft is trying to sow seeds of job insecurity doubts into the brains of the target audience in order to soften up resistance to Windows migration.

  9. Re:TMI by SteakandcheeseUm · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's the conjugations and declensions that kill you.

  10. Depends on where they take it from... by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not convinced that lots of people are looking at where the code came from. To take FreeBSD Update as an example, I've engaged in lots of lengthy discussions about technical issues, but nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"

    If they take it from one public codebase (e.g. Linux to *BSD, it'd get noticed if it was on a large scale, or a rip-off of a specific functionality. If it comes from source code you have access to through work, escrow agreements, stolen code (e.g. Doom 3) and similar, well who else could check? Only other people with the source.

    Unless you have reason to believe otherwise, you mostly need to trust that people have the rights to the code they show. If I gave you a book/song/video clip I said I made, you'd normally trust that too, wouldn't you? But not if I came with an entire Hollywood production, then you'd ask questions. Same with code too, if someone "dropped" large amounts of code into a codebase, questions would get asked.

    Kjella

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    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  11. Re:TMI by zerocool^ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you can just make it up as you go, and it still sounds way cool

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

    Quid = what (or some form of question) - repeated for emphasis, so may be translated as "whatever"
    latine - latin word for latin, the language.
    dictum - said (past tense of to say).
    sit - is? I think so.
    Altum - profound, stately
    viditur - sounds, is heard as

    "Whatever said in latin sounds profound"

    ~Will

    (sorry for any translation mistakes, I do ancient greek, not latin, corrections welcome).

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    sig?
  12. is this a cult of personality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...that we seem to be developing here? Linus is a smart guy, but these comments don't strike me as particularly witty (anybody can say "this person is smoking crack"), some analogies were flawed, and publicly referring to poor people exploited on TV as white trash is just arrogant.

  13. Re:Linus' successor by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thats one hell of an assumption. Mexico and Canada are right next to the US, but most Americans don't speak Spanish or French. I understand someone who is German understanding some Flemish (Belgium) but there are more than a few languages spoken in Russia alone

    How many people in El Paso or San Diego speak Spanish? The USA is a large country, so you have to compare the right areas.

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    "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
  14. OSS At work by OzRoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What we have just witnessed is Open Source at work.

    I think all of you should be careful. SCO will be claiming you stole the code from their own DarlBot.

  15. Re:Get on message, people by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Focus on SCO's theft of the work of thousands of people. Use words like "theft", and "stolen". Keep mentioning that SCO did not write Linux and has only the limited rights to it given them by the General Public License. Those rights don't include converting it to a proprietary product.

    No, no, no. This sort of deliberate misstatement is entirely inappropriate, and /.ers are regularly up in arms over it when the RIAA/MPAA do it. (For example, when they describe the use of Kazaa as theft.) "Theft" is a term that has a very specific meaning in law, and it involves actual property (real property or chattels, not intellectual property--a term which doesn't have a specific legal meaning.) "Conversion" does not apply to this situation either, for the same reason.

    Unless SCO was taking physical CDs from Linus and reselling them, then their offenses are limited to (potentially) copyright infringement, fraud, and various flavours of corporate malfeasance. If you need a word to inflame public opinion, try using "fraud". It accurately conveys the notion that SCO is attempting to deceive the public, their stockholders, and the courts for financial gain. Comparisons to Enron might also be appropriate.

    IANAL, but I do know it casts doubt on the legitimate concerns of the open source community if its advocates start making inaccurate (even if only technically inaccurate) accusations.

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    ~Idarubicin
  16. Re:What's wrong with lefty commie hippies? by hxnwix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Agreed. If the weather's fair, you'd have a better time in the countryside, lounging on a blanket in a field with some friends or fuckable acquaintances. I advise you forget coding and worldly objectives for a bit... your mind would make hash of them anyway. But whatever novel thoughts come to you then, and whatever fragments remain a few hours later - they might later divert your considerations to more fruitful ends and provide insights that handily circumvent previously impassable obstacles.

    Frustatedly ranting and hammering a joypad whilest your tetris high score remains out of reach (but surrounded by the most brilliant hues you've laid eyes on!) is an inferior preoccupation. Even if the falling blocks you are failing to properly manipulate discourse brilliantly among themselves upon the meaning of the universe, your vacation within a spectacularly warped mindset would be misspent.