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Viewing Inside the Earth

Roland Piquepaille writes "Last week, a study released by Princeton University said that geoscientists have captured images of the interior of the Earth by using techniques similar to body scanning by physicians. This study also revealed in-depth structures which might explain how our planet is changing -- and aging. They studied more than 86,000 earthquakes which occurred since 1964. And they found 32 "mantle plumes" which are believed to cause island chains, such as the Hawaiian Islands and Iceland. They have been conjectured thirty years ago, but this is the first visual evidence they exist. This overview contains more details and references, including a rendering of mantle plumes in action."

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  1. This is awesome by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    It looks just like some scenes from The Core.

    I'm really amazed how Science Fiction is able to shape and mold our understanding of real science.

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    1. Re:This is awesome by understyled · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Core and Real Science should never ever appear within the same train of thought. Not only was it a horrendous movie, but the physics they used to explain it was complete garbage.

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  2. hollow earth by djdrew6k · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder what this does to the hollow earth theory...

    Hollow Earth Theory

  3. Hype by adlai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would argue that slashdot has just bought into hype surrounding one scientific paper. Seismic tomography work has been incrementally improving for many years.

    Moreover, I suspect this paper will be very controversial -- the inversion of tomographic data is necessarily model-dependent, and many scientists are going to be skeptical of the claim that the have settled the source claim of plumes once and for all. [It's much easier to understand why plumes would originate at the thermal boundary at the core; what causes a plume to begin if it starts somewhere in the middle of the mantle?]

    1. Re:Hype by herwin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, the inversion problem is potentially ambiguous. I haven't my copy of the article yet, but I will be interested in seeing how they address these criticisms. Plumes originating above the thermal boundary may have originally originated at the boundary and are no longer being fed. The base of the column continues to rise due to its lower density. Yellowstone may be in this category, given its age. The issues appear similar to those in atmospheric and hydrospheric modeling that involve chaotic dynamics.

  4. seismic survey by eyenot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    another ramp up in seismic survey was reported in this article in the san francisco chronicle.

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    1. Re:seismic survey by eyenot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      this new research grant seems to follow pretty closely on the heels of new activity occuring at yellowstone national park, described here, here, and here (where you can also buy your own survey equipment.)

      apparently, yellowstone park is right on top of a vent or something that has exploded catastrophically and according to some is overdue to do the same soon.

      i'm willing to bet that the funding discussed in the article i linked to above:

      Grants totaling $319 million from the National Science Foundation have been awarded to cover the first five years of the major new project, called EarthScope. Work has already begun on its array of instruments and facilities, which will provide the tools for decades of future detailed studies.

      ... has eveything to do with attempting to determine just how soon and how badly North America is going to be covered with ash and oochi-hot burning lava. Cool, or what?

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  5. Background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    How do we know how hot the core of the Earth
    is?

    We derive our primary estimate of the temperature of the deep earth from the melting behavior of iron at ultrahigh pressures. We know that the earth's core depths from 2,886 kilometers to the center at 6,371 kilometers (1,794 to 3,960 miles), is predominantly iron, with some contaminants. How? The speed of sound through the core (as measured from the velocity at which seismic waves travel across it) and the density of the core are quite similar to those seen in of iron at high pressures and temperatures, as measured in the laboratory. Iron is the only element that closely matches the seismic properties of the earth's core and is also sufficiently abundant present in sufficient abundance in the universe to make up the approximately 35 percent of the mass of the planet present in the core.

    The earth's core is divided into two separate regions: the liquid outer core and the solid inner core, with the transition between the two lying at a depth of 5,156 kilometers (3,204 miles). Therefore, If we can measure the melting temperature of iron at the extreme pressure of the boundary between the inner and outer cores, then this lab temperature should reasonably closely approximate the real temperature at this liquid-solid interface. Scientists in mineral physics laboratories use lasers and high-pressure devices called diamond-anvil cells to re-create these hellish pressures and temperatures as closely as possible.

  6. Offtopic sidenote... by _Pinky_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While predicition of seismic and volcanic events is still, well, progressing... Detection and tracking of such an event is very much doable...

    A tsunami resulting from a seismic event can be devistating, however the landing times can be predicted... The WestCoast/Alaska Tsunami Warning Center (US specific, though I'm sure there are others..) has a page (http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov), that include papers, faqs, and also nice charts showing if an eartquake hit how long would it take the wave to hit (http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/ttt/ttt.htm)

    Volcanic eruptions also are interesting in that they tend to throw up ash detectable via satellites... On the NOAA polar orbitals, channel 4 (10.3-11.3 microns) minus channel 5 (11.5-12.5 microns) shows most plumes... A good website for more information is NESDIS's volcano page (http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/VAAC/)

  7. They've discovered my Evil Plan by thepuma · · Score: 5, Funny
    This has been a very bad day for me. Today, Slashdot discovered my fricken "laser", and now they've also discovered my plan to drown the earth in motlen, hot "magma"!

    - Dr. Evil

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  8. Shame it requires earthquakes by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read the headline and immediately thought, wouldn't it be great if we could map the interior of other planets, or the moon? The knowledge we have about what lies beneath the surface of Mercury, Venus and Mars seems to be mostly speculation, with no easy way of investigating. But on a body without active plate tectonics, I guess this technique wouldn't be usable at all. I suppose there are other sources of disturbance such as significant meteorite impacts, but they're much rarer than earthquakes (on Earth, anyway).

    Also, does this method rely on the liquid nature of the mantle? Would these acoustic waves propagate as effectively through solid rock (I guess not)? So, even if we could create the effect of an earthquake on, say, the moon, would it even help?

    (should get back down to Earth, really!) :)

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    1. Re:Shame it requires earthquakes by MrMr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dropping a few thousand nukes in a nice pattern will also work.
      And no, solid rock is fine for wave propagation (even better as it will transmit both P and S waves).

  9. Re:ok... by r4tf1nk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually it is believed that Iceland _does_ sit on top of a mantle plume as well as being on a plate boundary - the evidence is that there is apparently just too much magma being produced there to be just explained by oceanic ridge magmatism. The online article on "VOLCANOES, MANTLE PLUMES, and HOT SPOTS" linked to in the weblog mentions that hotspots can occur on plate boundaries.

  10. Plumes not universally accepted by pongo000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a growing movement in the geosciences that claims there is no evidence pointing to "mantle plumes." Everyone knows /. readers are well-balanced and open to new ideas, so in that spirit I offer up this link to the UK Geological Society.

    Remember, an open mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  11. Moonquakes do occur by teridon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Apollo missions deployed seismometers on the moon and recorded over 12000 "events" from 1969-1977. There's some info in this abstract, which I found using, you guessed it, google (search term "moonquakes study interior"). Apparently most of these events are moonquakes caused by tidal forces, as opposed to plate tectonics on Earth.

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  12. New Evidence by Sigl · · Score: 5, Funny
    ["mantle plumes"] have been conjectured thirty years ago, but this is the first visual evidence they exist.
    I dunno, The tons of molten lava spewing into the air seemed like good visual evidence to me.
  13. Re:From the Office of Redundancy Office comes... by Eccles · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a friend once said to me, "Do you have a Department of Redundancy Department?" To which I responded, "We have several."

    "Those long winter evenings must just fly by."--Black Adder

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  14. Re:Resolution? by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Uranium is rarely, if ever, found in the pure metallic form. Uranium has a valence of 6, forms uranium oxides very readily, and doesn't lose the oxygen without a lot of chemical coaxing. These oxides would rarely break down under natural conditions to free up the pure metal. Uranium is indeed denser than iron, and would be expected to sink, but uranium oxides are lighter, and float up to the mantle.

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  15. Re:ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There really is some debate over wether this is so. 3He/4He ratios are indeed high, and this is normally attributed to a lower mantle source (possibly as deep as the core mantle boundary). HOWEVER four recent (and independent) tomography experiments image a major, strong, low-wave-speed anomaly in the upper mantle beneath Iceland that does not continue down into the lower mantle. These studies strongly suggest that iceland is fed by an upwelling originating in (and confined to) the upper mantle.

    The suggested explanations for this are somewhat tenuous - that the plume gains strength in the upper mantle and is not imaged at depth runs counter to the improved tomographic resolution with depth, and besides, doesn't make much sense chemically.

    Speaking as a geochemist, the real interest lies in tieing in the 3He origin with tomographic images. The evidence is rapidly shrinking for a chemically seperate 'upper' and 'lower' mantle, but rather for a 'marble cake' type mantle with small regions of primitive material mixed in with more recent 'evolved' mantle material.

  16. Re:Resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    geologically, uranium doesn't 'like' to be in the metallic form, but rather exists on earth mainly as a sulfide or oxide. Given the redox state of the earth (and ignoring the hydrosphere - the wet bit at the top), it is very hard to get *any* uranium to mix in with the iron phase. Since we know approximately how much U we should have in the earth from solar condensation type experiments, meteorites and cosmic abundances, we still have more (by many orders of magnitude) Fe than U. So, given that uranium likes to be with the rock (its a strongly lithophile - 'rock loving' element ), it is very unlikely that there is a extant reactor in the core. The ONLY possible way i can get ANY U into the metallic phase is by making the core predominantly iron sulfide, but that messes with the density profiles given by seismic waves....

    the best heat sources for the core appears to be latent heat of crystallisation, continued gravitational settling and the decay of radioactive potassium dissolved in the metal.

  17. Random thoughts by craw · · Score: 4, Informative

    A few random comments on this subject.

    So-called hot spots (fixed volcanic positions) was first proposed by the great Canadian geophysist J. Tuzo Wilson almost 40 years ago.

    The mantle plume origin of these hot spots was proposed by W. Jason Morgan (as mentioned in the Princeton link). Morgan also the put forth the first model for global plate tectonics on a sphere (spring AGU meeting, 1967). This extended the work of Wilson that looked only at transform faults.

    I've known Jason for 25 years and can truly say that he is one of the nicest guy you could ever meet. He is also an incredible smart scientist.

    Ironically, this /. story is posted on the first day of the fall AGU (American Geophysical Union) meeting. I'm quite sure that there will be discussions and debate about this.

    Seismic tomography has been around for over two decades. Global body-wave seismic tomography has been performed primarily since the 1990's. I did seismic tomography work about twenty years ago albeit using surface waves covering only a portion of the Earth.

    I hope that they publish a resolution map of their inversion model. An error map would also be good. Many times only the final model is presented.