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VoIP Gets A Big Backer And Another Lawsuit

Ungrounded Lightning writes "Time Warner Cable has announced plans to roll out a VoIP telephone service. I see two implications. First: ISPs providing VoIP phone service have a competitive advantage over third-party VoIP/PSTN providers (such as Vonage), who must ride on top of a separate broadband subscription for the packet transport. This could lead to consolidation of this industry segment in the hands of ISPs. Second: Cable ISPs have an advantage over Telco DSL operations - where a VoIP offering would cannibalize their own POTS and short-range long-distance revenue. This implies rollout on cable providers first, followed by harder times for telcos, long-distance companies, and third parties." chipperdog writes "In this article it is mentioned that the small rural phone companies in North Dakota are filing a complaint against a local VoIP provider, CallSmart. Interesting to see how this one works out, given what happened in Minnesota a few months ago."

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  1. First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    First? Post?

  2. is this where by bob_calder · · Score: -1, Troll

    those ASSHOLES have been getting the off topic crap?

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  3. Re:Jihad SLASHDOT FARMS DATA FROM AC POSTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Malda and friends hand over data to the FBI and John Ashcroft. Say they cant? Oh yes they fucking can. You see they know which AC post came from where, they log it. They can then be compelled to turn the data over. SO MUCH FOR FUCKING AC YOU FIACKING LIARS!!!!.

    WARNING, SLASHDOT NOW TIES AC COMMENTS WITH USER

    When you are logged in, /. ties your user account to any Anonymous Coward postings you make... Thus they know who posted it. To demonstrate this:

    1. Get mod points.
    2. Post an AC comment while logged in
    3. Change your dynamic ip, clear all cookies
    4. Log back in and try to moderate your AC comment... you can't!!!

    Please *log out* AND use another browser before making your AC comments.
    Your UID is being tracked, it's not Anonymous. Lots of people post lots of things to Slashdot as AC only because they believe it is really anonymous - it isn't. They hunt "trolls" (non-karma whores and non-group thinking bots) down.

    This is true. I used to be a bit more freestyle and witty AC and be a nice guy logged in [basically a karma whore]. After a short while, I could no longer moderate. Slashdot does brand AC posts with IP and then map them back to users. They lie about AC, AC doesn't exist if you re-use ip addresses.

    Big brother is watching. So while I might be a "troll" a lot of the AC things I said were to protect myself from Slash-bot groupthink. They punished me for voicing my opinion freestyle.

    They also revoke moderation FOREVER - $rtbl it is called, for any moderations of any post that have been secretly flagged annoying [Slashcode has hidden flags viewable by editors]. If you *EVER* mod up something an editor secretly marked annoying you NEVER moderate again, ever - ever even if your karma is capped.

    Also, Slashdot uses the friends system to track "trolls." Mark a troll you find funny as a friend *bang* $rtbl never to moderate ever again. My real account had many many good friends who had good karma, and a few funny trolls later, no more moderation for that account. Again, Slashdot is spying on its users to make the people who find certain things funny uneligible to moderate. You will never moderate again if you are a friend of a "foe or freak" of an editor.

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    So AC is a scam here. Hitler-Malda screws AC posts in the ass. So now all you can do is go 100% AC, or , as they expect you to, KARMA WHORE. And it is so lame and unfair and probably illegal as they lie about anonymity.

    Also, sometimes when certain information becomes an active thread, they bitchslap the thread much later so that people think its "safe" to participate and the whole thing gets slapped.

    Protect yourself. Try and use proxies or a super good second browser with proxies that you never log into such as Opera (which makes it very easy to delete all private data). Thank you.
  4. WRONG by raisinets · · Score: -1, Troll

    I work for the AT&T telco division, and we are by far the number one user of IP equipment anywhere. It's just that all that technology is kept internal to keep our focus on POTS. We could own VoIP if we wanted to... but not just yet. J

    1. Re:WRONG by darxyde · · Score: 1, Troll

      So you're going to wait until the bandwagon is already rolling then, rather than actually drive it?

      Doesn't really make much business sense...

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  5. RIAA sound familiar? by Quasar1999 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is it just me, or is the American business model to stick with a rigid plan, and when that plan becomes obsolete, whine, bitch and complain until the politicians you bought last election will come up with laws that protect your horribly backwards business model and crush any and all innovation in the country.

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  6. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm posting Anon, though I have a real account - but who really cares? If you want real anon posts you go to a library wearing a ski mask. Any idiot knows that "Anon" posts on any system can be traced back to you easily if you just post from home.

    If I accidentally got locked out of Moderation - who cares? You know who looses out - Slashdot!! If they want to lock out a guy who tries to do a good job moderating, I can live with that. It doesn't matter to me at all. I don't have to use the site, I come because I enjoy it and part of that is the delicate balance achieved between anon posts/moderation/meta-mod. I personally find trolls to be at a tolerable level, the moderation fairly even-handed (and I've had a lot of posts modded up even if I post in a topic a day or two later - so much for the "first story is the only one to get modded" whine), and the site as a whole at a balance that I like.

    In short, I really don't get why whiners like you persist in crying that the sky is falling. There is no sky! There never has been!

  7. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: -1, Troll

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  8. Re:Troll strike! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    This is just another example of spineless crap moderation here on /.

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    CENSORSHIP WORKS!

    (*)Note, the word community used often on Slashdot, this is referring to a proto communist commune.

    So, you busy little plebian proletariats, get busy, you have some censoring to do! FUN! Do the bidding of your fat, undisciplined masters who never subject themselves to peer review!

    Good job you little neo-commies. Don't want to hear the other side, shoot the fucker in the head as an ENEMY OF THE STATE [In this case anyone who seeks to improve the sad state of/.].

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    Censor him quickly

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    It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. - Sir Winston Churchill (Especially when your democratic peers twist democracy into a reason commit censorship, to squash dissenting or unpopular opinions, and refer to them as trolls, flaimbait overrated or offtopic when they aren't any of the said)

    Reading Slashdot at anything above -1 is like trying to put a shit filter on your ass.

    Get busy moderating this down, you little pack of obedient prefects of the corrupt state! You are the vanguards of purity, and dissent is not allowed!

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  9. Come on down to Florida.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    we'll cannibalize your POT