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Evolution 1.5 has Been Released

SirPrize writes "As announced here, Evolution 1.5 is now available for download (obligatory screenshots, for those who want to click and see)" Congrats to all the developers responsible for this gigantic undertaking.

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  1. Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... by the-matt-mobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it truly is an Outlook killer

    I'm not trying to troll here, as I think Evolution is a wonderful product... but I'd just like to dispute your claim on one of the finer points - nothing will be an "Outlook Killer" until it runs everywhere that Outlook runs (ie: Windows).

  2. If we're gonna get news like this... by Raleel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about at least mentioning what features are new?

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  3. I still think... by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. that one of the oft-overlooked facilitators of open-source software is having a Windows client. Mozilla/Firebird/Thunderbird seem to understand this, as well as tons of other projects. I am almost at a point where I could switch from Win2k to any flavor of Linux and still use the same apps 90% of the time. (Thunderbird, OO.org, Thunderbird, Gimp, Eclipse, etc)

    I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of Evolution and why it may be impossible to run on Windows, but I think that if it were possible, it would be a large boon to the project.

  4. Remote calendar support? by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Evolution is truly a first class application. Polished, debugged, good-looking, and professional.

    That having been said, though, I am still disappointed by the fact that they are not supporting remote calendars out of the box. Sure, you can buy plugins to connect it to Exchange, or Netscape/iPlanet/SunONE/JES calendar server (whatever they're calling it this week), and presumably Groupwise (soon) ... but where's the built-in support for remote calendars using an open protocol? Folks like me who are developing open source groupware servers are anxiously awaiting good clientware to connect to. How about putting WCAP in the standard build? It's well-documented and much simpler than the disgusting mess the IETF is proposing (CAP has the dubious honor of being the one protocol even uglier than IMAP).

    So how about it, codemonkeys? The sooner we get some real open source calendaring going, the sooner we can start to make a real challenge to Outlook. Microsoft loves the Outlook/Exchange lock-in. They love it so much that they're trying to do the same thing across their entire product line (Office 2003 has many ties to SharePoint server). The window of opportunity is open, but it won't be forever.

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  5. Not following HIG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And it still doesn't follow the GNOME HIG, Toolbar not customizable (not following Icons Only, Text besides Icons, Text below Icons and Text only), too many entries in the Menu.

    What purpose does the GNOME HIG have if nobody cares a shit for it ? On the otherhand it looks like entourage - what an innovation.

  6. for single users, not enterprises by axxackall · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ....I must say, woo-hoo! Evolution is great stuff; it truly is an Outlook killer.

    Excuse me, Outlook per se is close to useless without Exchange server. Sure, Evolution works fine with IMAP. It even works with LDAP to keep Contacts (although that piece is not fine).

    But how about Calendaring and Tasks being stored on the server *AND* processed with the server? In Outlook when I appoint the meeting ti automatically checks if the attendee is busy or not, and it ch checks it on the server - not in my personal folders.

    Without groupware-based calendaring Outlook is useless for most of enterprises.

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  7. Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... by stubear · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "...it truly is an Outlook killer."

    Outlook clone perhaps, but no where near even an Outlook threat. First and foremost is the lack of a Windows version. Second, Evolution merely mimics some of the functionality of Outlook, not all of it and it lacks the same kind of integration that Outlook/Exchange offer medium and large corporations wanting to standardize on an e-mail, calendar and messaging suite can. Call me a troll if you wish but it seems to me that Evolution is only being used by those who would be better served with Thunderbird; sort of like the Outlook users who should really be using Outlook Express.

  8. Feature Request by timothyf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    http://www.research.ibm.com/remail/

    In my opinion, borrowing ideas like that for a groupware/email client would be what distinguishes Evolution from the competition.

    Oh, and pretty please make a Winders version for those of us that are stuck here? :)

  9. less like Outlook, strange UI things by mydigitalself · · Score: 4, Insightful

    one of the things i've noticed with the (dear me) evolution of Evolution is that when it originally reared its head it was almost a complete copy of Outlook from a UI point of view.

    the version that comes with XD2 seems to have begun a move away from Outlook. and i'm debating in my mind if this is a good thing or not. surely the "switch"-like campaign would favour apps that looked and behaved more like MS apps for the sake of familiarity when moving across to a new environment. obviously the bad side of this is the whole innovation-stiffling argument that if one just mimicks Microsoft behaviour, what benefit other than cost is being added?

    anyway, i would be in a better position to speak once actually having given it a test - but the UI on those screenshots seems a lot LESS intuitive than i've seen in previous releases. a few examples:

    Calendar

    it may seem obvious to a geek, but what is "Local"? and how does that differ from "On This Computer" in the tasks screenshot? also, what the heck is the "Component" button at the bottom there? and why do the buttons at the bottom there look so ugle. the ones on Tasks have icons, those don't. basically inconsistent UI.

    i understand that this is a dev. release, but it seems silly to me to ignore UI in a odd release while developing the functionality and then maybe coming back to it in the following release. the way a user interacts with software should be considered throughout a development cycle as interaction changes can often lead to large programming changes.

  10. Re:Built-in spam filtering? by NT_blows · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Huh? Run Spamassassin as a daemon (ie spamd) for speed and use Evolution's builtin filtering tool to define a pipe to shell command filter (ie spamc -c) with the rule being if does not return 0, either move to your spam folder or just delete it. Make sure bayesian filtering is enabled in spamassassin, do some training via sa-learn, add you will have great spam filtering with very low overhead.

  11. ehr, am I reading freshmeat right now? by flok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It really puzzles me why this evolution-program is announced on slashdot.
    Ok, the linux-kernel I can understand, but some program clearly not every linux-user is using? This isn't freshmeat.net!

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  12. Re:Hmm. Time for another trial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Seriously, why is POP even supported anymore?"

    Because some places don't want every user's entire mail history on the server?

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  13. Re:Won't be going anywhere near my systems... by Tet · · Score: 2, Insightful
    There are now users who demand a single app that is completely integrated.

    Rubbish. That sort of user wouldn't even know the difference. It's all down to presentation. If you can present a bunch of apps so that they work together seamlessly, then the end user may as well think of them as a single app. That's the direction in which we should be heading. But too many people are too eager to clone the mistakes that Microsoft have made instead...

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