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OpenBSD Gains "Fuzzy" User Profiling IDS

NaveWeiss writes "According to the OpenBSD Journal, major work has been done on an innovative new OpenBSD feature termed 'fuzzy user profile' intrusion detection system' - or 'fupids.' According to Steffen Wendzel, the code 'creates profiles for every user who does an execve() syscall on obsd systems.'"

54 comments

  1. *BSD IS DYING (GNAA PROPZ FROM PENISBIRD) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

  2. Coping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Although it is true that BSD is dying, there are some helpful steps you can take ease your sorrow:
    • deal with the inevitable.
    • grieve for your loss.
    • move on.
      Never let your emotions get mixed up with something as silly as a computer
      operating system. It isn't healthy. So BSD fails. Big whoop. Deal with it and move on.
      Hope this helps.

  3. Open Source is business unfriendly...? by Bat_Masterson · · Score: -1, Troll

    Although there may have been problems in the *BSD community, could the core problem be the open source model?

  4. Link? by craig2787 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A German link, thanks.

    1. Re:Link? by OldMiner · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh, it really is hard to click on the link on the linked page, or, even worse, search Google for FUPIDS and find the page in, as he puts it, "my poor English". Pretty sparse on details when you get to it anyhow. Use the source, Luke.

      --
      You like splinters in your crotch? -Jon Caldara
    2. Re:Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      Weisser Lebensraum. In geistig gesunderen Tagen nahmen unsere Vorfahren all jene Teile der Erde in Besitz, die klimatisch zu ihrer Rasse passten: ganz Europa, die gemassigten Zonen des amerikanischen Kontinents, Australien und die Sudspitze Afrikas. All diese Gebiete, die zu unserem traditionellen Lebensraum gehoren, mussen wieder vollkommen weiss werden.

      Nach Bekampfung jener multikulturellen Seuche, die in den Vereinigten Staaten, Grossbritannien und in jedem anderen arischen Land wutet, mussen wir wieder einen Teil der Erde besitzen, der rassisch rein ist und in dem sich unser Volk frei entfalten kann. Wir benotigen weisse Schulen, weisse Wohngebiete und Erholungsraume, weisse Arbeitsplatze und weisse Farmen. Nichtweisse durfen in unserem Lebensraum nicht langer geduldet werden. Zudem brauchen wir genugend Raum, um uns auszubreiten.

      Wir werden alles Notwendige dafur tun, um diesen weissen Lebensraum zu schaffen und zu erhalten. Wir werden uns von vorubergehenden Problemen nicht schrecken lassen, da wir nur zu gut wissen, dass dieser Lebensraum unabdingbare Voraussetzung fur unser Uberleben ist. Die langfristige demographische Entwicklung hin zu einer rassisch immer farbigeren Welt, verursacht durch die katastrophale Politik der letzten hundert Jahre, muss nicht nur gestoppt, sondern ruckgangig gemacht werden.

    3. Re:Link? by ejungle · · Score: 0, Troll
      --
      Remember: umount it before you fsck it.
    4. Re:Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes *BSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.

      Fact: *BSD is dying

  5. BSD's FEEDING TUBE REINSERTED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Funny

    Oct. 23 -- BSD resumed receiving life-sustaining care yesterday in a
    Florida hospital room, but many experts said there is virtually no hope
    that it will ever recover, despite it fan boy's desperate hopes.

    "IF IT'S over a year, BSD's not ever going to get up," said Fred Plum, a
    professor emeritus at Weill Cornell College in New York. "You'd just
    don't see it. It just doesn't happen."
    BSD, 39, has been in a persistent vegetative
    state since its heart stopped for unknown reasons in 1990. A feeding
    tube in BSD's stomach was removed this past Wednesday after its husband,
    Theo De Ratt, who said his wife had told him she (BSD) would not want to
    be kept alive under such circumstances, won a long series of court
    battles to have life-sustaining nourishment withdrawn so she (BSD) could
    die.

  6. Here you go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wir sind uns im klaren, daB dieser Krieg ja nur damit enden konnte, daB entweder die germanischen Volker ausgerottet werden, oder das Judentum aus Europa verschwindet. Ich habe am 1. September 1939 [sic] im Deutschen Reichstag es schon ausgesprochen. . . daB dieser Krieg nicht so ausgehen wird, wie die Juden sich es vorstellen, namlich daB die europaischen arischen Volker ausgerottet werden, sondern daB das Ergebnis dieses Krieges die Vernichtung des Judentums ist. Zum erstenmal werden nicht andere allein verbluten, sondern zum erstenmal wird diesesmal das echt altjudische Gesetz angewendet: Aug' um Aug', Zahn um Zahn!

  7. FreeBSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    You don't keed to be Kreskin to look into FreeBSD's future. Even a child knows that FreeBSD is dying. All major marketing surveys show that FreeBSD has steadily declined in market share. FreeBSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.

  8. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  9. Fuzzy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Yeah, bodies due tend to get a little fuzzy before the liquifaction stage.

  10. Lets see if this gets modded +1 Funny: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I must make it clear that:

    1) *BSD is associated with the Devil (see mascot).
    2) *BSD promotes anti-social behaviour.
    3) *BSD encourages a homosexual lifestyle.
    4) *BSD stands for destruction of the economy.
    5) *BSD attacks the average man in the street.
    6) *BSD allows no critisms of its mission.
    7) *BSD harbours terrorists and other state enemies.
    8) *BSD collects weapons of mass destruction.
    9) *BSD believes in the enprisionment of mankind.
    10) *BSD is dying.

  11. Courtest of Babelfish by thelaw · · Score: 3, Informative

    FUPIDS (fuzzy user of profiles intrusion detection system) is a Patch for the OpenBSD -- Kernel. FUPIDS produces user profiles and supervises their activities. Momentarily is limited to the evaluation of the programs used by the user, however still by some intelligent ueberwachungsstrategien will extend. Which I still planned at nice features experience one as soon as I it programmed and/or for any reasons directly into the ton DO -- list on the project side wrote.

    babelfish.

    --
    -- http://www.cerastes.org
    1. Re:Courtest of Babelfish by Valar · · Score: 1

      Now if I only knew what 'ueberwachungsstrategien' was...

    2. Re:Courtest of Babelfish by chthonicdaemon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Looks like supervisory strategies to me (my german is not great).

      --
      Languages aren't inherently fast -- implementations are efficient
    3. Re:Courtest of Babelfish by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      I would agree. (with as bad or worse german then you of course).

      --
      Why not fork?
    4. Re:Courtest of Babelfish by vidnet · · Score: 1

      I'd agree too, with no german skills.

      German: ueber wachungs strategien
      English: over watching strategy
      (Latin-ish: super visio strategy)

      Yay for germanic languages!

  12. ...noexec/ro on partitions... by Hobart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Another good move along these lines, I think, might be to mount all partitions as noexec, and mount all the partitions with executable content as read-only...

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    o/~ Join us now and share the software ...
    1. Re:...noexec/ro on partitions... by anthonyrcalgary · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be a major pita if they did it by default...

      --
      When someone might yell at me, it has to be OpenBSD.
    2. Re:...noexec/ro on partitions... by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 0, Troll

      And you get to go singleuser every time you want to make a software upgrade.

      --
      Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
    3. Re:...noexec/ro on partitions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Mmm, major pita...

    4. Re:...noexec/ro on partitions... by tiger99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I wonder how that would compare to a well-known badly broken OS, where you can't even make some executable files, and dlls, RO without breaking everything. Keeping all the executable stuff in RO partitions has its attractions, if it is possible to work that way.

      Taking this a step further, if it was not for the performance problem, could you not just put the executables on a CD (in a read-only drive of course), which could be updated only by having physical access, and a suitably equipped PC with writer to to the update.

      Or, would this cause some undesireable effect as a result of configuring the OS to boot from CD?

      Thinking a bit more, how about putting the lot in flash with the write disabled in hardware (keyswitch for example)? Would that achieve the same effect, or at least something useful?

  13. OpenBSD bus fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    A tourist bus skidded off a mountain road and fell into a gorge in western India, killing 22 people and injuring 30 others, Press Trust of India news agency said Sunday. The accident occurred just before midnight Saturday on a mountain road near Mahabaleshwar, a hill resort 95 miles southeast of Bombay, said PTI quoting police.

    The driver of the bus was negotiating a bend in the road when he lost control of the vehicle which skidded and crashed into a gorge, nearly 200 feet below. Residents of nearby villages and authorities found 22 bodies. BSD was among the dead. The corpse has gone unclaimed, leading to speculation that BSD was indeed an orphan. Calls to former spouse Wind River went unreturned.

  14. BSD trolls are dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Netcraft has confirmed: the *BSD trolls are dying. Due to a pathetic lack of trolls in recent stories, Netcraft issued its latest press release confirming the death of many *BSD trolls.

    RIP *BSD trolls... your sorry asses won't be missed.

  15. Posted like a true AC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    We are definitely here to stay.

    Change you OS and move to another section, nothing to see here .. move along.

    1. Re:Posted like a true AC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Change you OS and move to another section, nothing to see here .. move along.

      Thanks... I've already moved to another section which, incidentally, is dying.

  16. A Eulogy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
    Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
    Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
    Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

    Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
    Scribbling on the sky the message *BSD Is Dead,
    Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
    Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

    *BSD was my North, my South, my East and West,
    My working week and my Sunday rest,
    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
    I thought that it would last for ever; I was wrong.

  17. Does it log activity? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting


    He mentions that it sets a threshhold of user activity, such as using too many new programs within a limited space of time.

    Any indication that it does some sort of observation of user activity (think bayesian learning for spam filters) to build profiles which, if exceeded by too high a metric within too short a time, would also trigger a log error?

    --
    Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
  18. Elegy for *BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Elegy For *BSD


    I am a *BSD user
    and I try hard to be brave
    That is a tall order
    *BSD's foot is in the grave.

    I tap at my toy keyboard
    and whistle a happy tune
    but keeping happy's so hard,
    *BSD died so soon.

    Each day I wake and softly sob
    Nightfall finds me crying
    Not only am I a zit faced slob
    but *BSD is dying.

  19. Roy Horn speaks out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Roy Horn of the famous "Siegfried and Roy" magic ensemble was interviewed today from his hospital bed. Mr. Horn is recovering from a life threatening tiger attack. When asked about his condition, Roy had this to say,
    Don't worry. I'm doing OK. I'll be fine. However, on the other hand, *BSD is dying.
    Hang in there Roy. We're all pulling for you!
  20. The *BSD Wailing Song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The *BSD Wailing Song

    What's left for me to see
    In my ship I sailed so far
    What can the answer be
    Don't know what the questions are.
    And after all I've done
    Still I cannot feel the sun
    Tell me save me
    In the end our lost souls must repent.
    I must know it is for certain
    Can it be the final curtain
    As long as the wind will blow
    I'll be searching high and low.
    Who knows what's really true
    They say the end is so near
    Why are we all so cruel
    We just fill ourselves with fear.
    And heaven and hell will turn
    All that we love shall burn
    Hear me trust me
    In the end our lost sould must repent.
    I must know it is for certain
    Can it be the final curtain
    As long as the wind will blow
    I'll be searching high and low
    Final curtain
    Final curtain

  21. *BSD Sux0rs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    In a startling turn of events today, a previously little-known fact came into the public eye: "*BSD Sux0rs". This came as a complete surprise to the BUWLA, or BSD Users With Large Assholes, as they previously thought that *BSD 0wned.
    "You see, even though I have never contributed code to any BSD project, I thought it was my duty to be a big asshole to others which don't use the OS I do, because it just 0wnz.", said one FreeBSD user. "Now that I know it sux0rs, though, I have to go find something else to be an asshole about."

    One notorious OpenBSD fanatic known as WideOpen, told reporters, "I have to kill myself. This isn't how it was supposed to happen. My BSD has always been the best, and shouting that opinion in other people's faces at every chance I got has been my only hobby. It was all I ever did. It was what got me out of bed in the morning. Now I have to die. I will jam my bedpost up my ass until I hit my brain. It is the only way to go: BSD style."

    In the volatile world of operating systems anything can happen. "At least we don't sux0r as much as Windows users", BigAzz, a relatively well-known NetBSD user said. "Screaming things in people's faces is my calling. Now I need to scream that BSD sux0rs. What a sad world. At least I won't kill myself like those uber-asshole OpenBSD guys. They are just way over the top. Or were, at least."

    Nobody knows for sure what the future holds for the state of operating systems, but with Netcraft confirming the sux0r status, *BSD users all over the world will have to stick something else up their asses from now on or risk looking even more gay than they used to.

  22. Death is not pretty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    It hurts 'n' stuff

  23. Lights out, pard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Somewhere, in a lonely hospital room,

    *BSD is dying

  24. OPENBSD is the best firewall OS ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness for OPENBSD, we have set many customers up with OPENBSD firewalls. It allows us to charge for services while at the same time offer customers huge savings over commercial products.

    1. Re:OPENBSD is the best firewall OS ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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    2. Re:OPENBSD is the best firewall OS ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Man, you have too much time on your hands, are you mentally retarded or something? Do you even have a job? We make a lot of money providing our customers with OpenBSD firewalls, as long as idiots like you don't see the value in it leaves people like us the opportunity to make the money! You stupid SOB!

  25. OpenBSD Ghetto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    OpenBSD you grow in the ghetto, living second rate
    And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate.
    The places you play and where you stay
    Looks like one great big alley way.
    You'll admire all the numberbook takers,
    Thugs, OpenBSD pimps and pushers, and the big money makers.

  26. MOD PARENT UP +5 INFORMATIVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  27. Jacko and BSD, Partners in death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It isn't only BSD which is headed for the morgue. Pop star Michael Jackson will kill himself within the next three years, if the legal case is as strong as it appears to be.

    He suffers severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder (an "I am above you stupid little laws" attitude), Body Dysmorphic Disorder ("I need another plastic surgery," that has rendered him without a nose) and (of course) Pedophilia.

    His money is gone. He is $200 million in debt. The case this time is strong against him, even worse if they have Pellicano tapes of witness intimidation and illegal wiretaps. He will never allow himself to go to prison.

    He will instead become increasingly psychotic. He will ultimately choose to go to that big "Neverland" in the sky, and reside with Chucky, the BSD monkey.

  28. Fupids is not in OpenBSD's tree by OttoM · · Score: 3, Informative
    The summary suggests fupids is imported into the OpenBSD tree.

    This is not true. Fupids is work by a single person, who is not an OpenBSD developer. At this point in time, nothing suggests it will be put into the OpenBSD tree.

    1. Re:Fupids is not in OpenBSD's tree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes OpenBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.

      Fact: *BSD is dying

  29. BSD is dying* [nt] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    nt

  30. NOT in the tree by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 2, Informative

    This code is not in the tree, and it doesn't look like it will be.

  31. BSD = Kaput by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    FreeBSD is dying.. Look up the word kaput for clarification.

    Hope this helps.

  32. FreeBSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    You don't keed to be Kreskin to look into FreeBSD's future. Even a child knows that FreeBSD is dying. All major marketing surveys show that FreeBSD has steadily declined in market share. FreeBSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yve you ever seen an animal backed into a corner and fighting for its life? That is the situation OpenBSD finds itself in. The OpenBSD fans are in a state of desperation, and even the mildest criticism of their hobby horse results in wild and paranoid outbuet another charnel house.

    The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting the most. Look at the numbers. The loss of user base for FreeBSD continues in a head spinning downward spiral. In truth, for all practical purposes FreeBSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking. It's a fact: FreeBSD is dying.

  33. Yes, you are right by foobsr · · Score: 1

    CC.

    --
    TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
  34. BSD for Windows XP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is there a version of *BSD that works under WinXP? Please provide a BiTt0rReNt link to the installer. TIA!

    PS It's WinXP Professional, no service packs installed.

    1. Re:BSD for Windows XP? by Paleomacus · · Score: 2, Funny

      All I can say is -- HUH?

    2. Re:BSD for Windows XP? by Guido+von+Guido · · Score: 1

      Troll/smartass remark.

    3. Re:BSD for Windows XP? by mattjb0010 · · Score: 1

      Actually it's not quite as crazy it sounds. Cygwin is basically a Linux-esque environment running on top of a Windows kernel, the BSD layer in Mac OS X runs directly on top of the Mach-based microkernel (side-by-side with Aqua, not Aqua on top of BSD as many believe).

  35. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone
    All my dreams, pass before my eyes, a curiosity
    Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.
    Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
    All we do, crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see

    Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind

    [Now] Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
    It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.

    Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
    Dust in the wind, everything is dust in the wind.