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Online Backup vs. Tape Backup?

hashbox asks: "I work for a small non-profit (about 100 staff members) and management has decided that they want to use an online data backup system instead of our existing tape backup system. After a meeting with one of the many vendors providing this service, I must admit that I am impressed with the promise of the technology (ease of use etc). However the sysadmin side of me has a few reservations. Has anyone here on Slashdot used an online backup service, and what were your experiences?"

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  1. Re:Watch those terms... by DLWormwood · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You're not really in the market for a backup system; you're in the market for a restore system.

    Amen. I'm working on a project involving management of multimedia assets, and one key part of the functionality is to archive and restore old artwork. My project leader and other stakeholders went through half a dozen providers, and they kept coming back to the same problem. They all stored data that was handed to them, but none of them provided an easy or programmable means of restoring that data. It seems backup providers seem to think that data restoration is a manual, labor-intensive process when for our needs we required it to be done on an automated, systematic basis. (We have much more data than we have capacity to keep accessable, hence a regular archive/restore cycle for many projects.)

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  2. I put together an entire online-backup system once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hello.

    I put together an entire online backup solution once. The braintrust of the project didn't want to spend a ton of money and wanted to just find another stream of income based on the internet. I told him that he'd end up spending tons of money on hardware and it'd have to be moved offsite (all of the standard backup strategy stuff) and if he wanted to be competitive, he'd have to do it securely (encryption) and reliabily.

    His answer to this was to buy an IDE raid and a T1 (no tapes!). I scoffed at the idea, but wrote the entire system for him anyway. Needless to say, the whole thing worked and he has a few customers and they get their important data backed-up fine, but if he were to get any real customers or have a crash of some sort, he'd be out of business and out of luck.

    My advice (similar to a previous poster) is to foll your own. I know that backups can be costly and a pain to maintain, but getting amanda running on a linux machine with a huge raid and a tape changer is a LOT better than putting your faith in an anonymous company. If you're still stuck on the online solution, see if you can take a tour of the company to see that they actually have the capacity and hardware to back up their claims.

    Just my $0.02 and no, I'm not telling the name of the backup service that I built. It's not something that I'm very proud of.

  3. Both by Nos. · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Online backups are wonderful. I just finished implementing an online backup system for a webhost. The clients data is backed up on the LAN to a backup server that is really nothing more than a big RAID. Then, via the web, users can download and restore their files as they wish.

    Backups are done via rsync, and restores are done with cp. (The whole system is run on linux with php and mysql). The files are backed up from/restored to windows servers over samba.

    This is all great and makes the users happy. However, any intelligent business will also have offsite backups. Right now, if a (pick your natural disaster/accident) happens, the company is basicaly out of business since no data resides outside the server room.

    Of course since all the client data is stored in a central location, it would take nothing to add some tape backups/hot-swap HD/etc. and take them offsite once a week.