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Narnia to be Created in New Zealand

SCS writes "It has been confirmed that the The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe will be made in New Zealand as part of a five film line-up of C.S. Lewis's Narnia fantasy book series, with New Zealander Andrew Adamson of Shrek fame as its director. Filming begins next year, and Weta Digital has already started the graphics work. Also reported at the BBC and HeraldTribune.com."

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  1. 5 movies? by LDoggg_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is expected to be the first of five films based on CS Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia books, and has the potential to top The Lord of The Rings in economic spinoffs for New Zealand.

    Strange, there are seven books.
    Anyone have any insight into what is being combined or left out?

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  2. I would rather see them do Ringworld. by AltGrendel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think that would be a great book to make into a mini-series. If SciFi channel would do as good a job as they did with Dune it could be classic.

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  3. Re:tiem moves on. by sjwt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    oh yes, of course..
    hehehe..

    oh dear, i feal like a child in a candyshop
    with all these movies being made..
    LoTR, Hulk, Spider man, Xman, Narnia(opps put a d in there, man cant even rembere the name right)
    These Tax brakes offerd by the NZ goverment seem
    to be paying off, if only the .Au had of droped Capital gains tax when Slicon Vally was loking at moving years ago the IT industry out hear
    could of done with the bost :0

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    Its a damm shame so little English countryside
    is left in England :)

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  4. The Chronicles of Prydain by tangent3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Chronicles of Prydain (by Llyod Alexander), while not as well known as the Chronicles of Narnia, is a beautiful series which has captured my heart and my fantasies during my younger days. It seems dissapointing that it has not even gotten a small fraction of the recognition that the Chronicles of Narnia has, with only a long forgotten Disney movie "The Black Cauldron" (also made into a Sierra adventure game) to show. It's the perfect fantasy series suitable even for young children, and I found it a way more fulfilling read even than the Harry Potter series. Try to find the series of 5 books... if you can. It would be well worthwhile.

    1. Re:The Chronicles of Prydain by Genrou · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I recently read these books, and I liked them better than Narnia. One of the (really) good things about the Harry Potter/Lord of the Rings movie/books hype is that a lot of fantasy books are being published again (here in Brazil where I live). I got to know a lot of great books. Some awful ones too, but that's part of the fun.

      There are other books I would like to see turned into movies, like Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials", Lemony Snicket's "Series of Unfortunate Events" and Terry Pratchett's "Discworld", and many others. There are rumours of some of them actually hitting the big screen, some of them in production (according to IMDB), but it will take a little while until they appear.

    2. Re:The Chronicles of Prydain by BTWR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      wasn't The Black Cauldron supposed to be the movie was so bad that caused Disney to stop making cartoon movies for like 8 years, until The Little Mermaid came out in the early 90s? (note: I never saw it, I just remember hearing that)

  5. Cool! Good news by EchoMirage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cool! This is good news. As a fan of C. S. Lewis' work generally and also the Narnia chronicles specifically, I think this will give these books the same rich setting enjoyed by LOTR. Tolkien and Lewis did weave much of the same setting into their books. As I was watching LOTR:ROTK last night (what an **awesome** movie) I did think to myself several times, "Wow, if they can make LOTR look this beautiful, the Narnia chronicles could be made just as beautiful."

    This is also good news because it means the movies are finally taking shape. They were announced almost two years ago, but there hasn't been much word on them since.

    This will, of course, lend to one major disclaimer for all Tolkien and LOTR fans who haven't read the Narnia chronicles: the movies will seem similar in setting, goal, and underlying theme. That having been said, they're drastically different stories. While there will be numerous similarities (which ignorant reviewers will peck at Narnia for, unfortunately) Tolkien was setting out to tell a story, create a world, and totally immerse the reader in Middle Earth. Lewis had more apologetic aims with his books, and this is by no means a secret fact. Hopefully they don't temper this angle too much with the movies. Certainly not everybody is thrilled by an underlying Christian theme, but removing it would make the story anemic.

    Even so, Lewis' books are strong strong works on their own, and they deserve as rich a treatment as LOTR received. The two books/series are widely regarded as some of the best fantasy work written in the 20th century. That Lewis and Tolkien were friends sweetens the deal.

    I'm looking forward to it!

    1. Re:Cool! Good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tolkien detested allegory of any kind,

      It is a strange thing. In foreward to the second edition of The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien writes:

      Other arrangements could be devised according to the tastes or views of those who like allegory or topical reference. But I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true or feigned, with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse 'applicability' with 'allegory'; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposeful domination of the author.

      But if you read his story "Leaf by Niggle", you will find it to be more allegorical than any Narnia story. In particular, some understanding of the ideas of Purgatory, Paradise, and perfection is essential to seeing what Tolkien is getting at in "Leaf by Niggle".

      Perhaps Tolkien had a much more strict notion than you or I of what is meant by the word 'allegory'. If you read a classical allegory such as Everyman, you will see it is quite different from Narnia. In Everyman, the allegorical meaning is immediately clear. Abstract concepts are directly and explicitly clothed in material objects. It is not primarily a story which has (as Tolkien says) 'applicability' to real life. Instead, it is an explicit moral treatise on the nature of real life that has some of the structural elements of a story.

  6. Allegory in Movies by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect (perhaps incorrectly) that the adaptation of the stories of a WWI veteran to movies in New Zealand was given the greenlight because of the success of another WWI vet (JRR Tolkien), but this brings up a question that I've had in my mind for a while "Do good allegorical stories make for good movies?"

    An allegory (at least as I use the term) is a subject that is described by using another subject in it's place (sort of like an extended metaphor).

    Tolkien and Lewis are on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to allegory. Tolkein despising it and Lewis making heavy use of it. On the written page, I think that the use or avoidence of allegory is fine, but I'm not sure that it works on film.

    Film is just such an overwhelmingly visual medium and allegory is such an abstract tool. It may be possible to depict the Lion Aslan as an allegory of Jesus on the written page, but on film you will see such an overwhelming embodiment of "big cat" that unless there's a narrator or someone hitting you over the head with "Lion = Jesus" the allegory will just be overwhelmed.

    The only example of strict allegory that I recall in a modern film was Battlefield Earth but that may be an unfair example (as there were many other reasons why that movie was so poorly received).

    Of course, many people already know the allegory that Lewis used in his tales and no doubt it will be brought up again and again by movie critics and sunday school teachers before the movie debuts, but if people didn't go in already having been told what to expect, would the allegory have been obvious?

    Just idle wondering I suppose...

    1. Re:Allegory in Movies by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I read the Narnia books around the time I was in 5th grade. My family is not religious, never go to church, no praying before dinner, none of that etc. I didn't catch *any* of the christian allegory in Narnia and I still really, really liked the stories. (In fact I was really surprised to learn that CS Lewis was such the theological philosopher since I had heard stories of fundies trying to ban Narnia at the same time all the D&D-is-devil-worship hype was going on.) So, I think that these movies could be entirely successful if they just left the allegory as it is, let people the audience draw their own conclusions but don't try to hit them over the head with it.

      I like to think I was a precocious kid (as opposed to the dimwit adult I grew up to be today) and given how well LCD type entertainment does nowadays, I figure that was interesting to a smart 5th grader will probably be interesting enough for the average American adult movie viewer (as well as most kids).

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  7. Re:Whoops! Wrong turn down the Christian byway by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the heavy-handed smearing of christian admonishments throughout the series largely puts me off

    Don't worry, rumor has it all that stuff is being removed. It also looks like HarperCollins is spinning this as a way of exploiting the Harry Potter popularity and is planning 'revised' Cristianity-free versions of the books as well. The are also rumored to be working on followup books written in the 'Narnia' universe.

    Of course this has the author spinning in his grave, and lots of protest from people who knew CS Lewis.

    One person remarked that they are turning Narnia into the British 'Mickey Mouse'.

    Sickening IMHO.

  8. Anybody remember last time... by telekon · · Score: 4, Interesting
    That these were made into films? Most (but I believe not all) of the books were adapted in British made-for-TV movies that aired over here on "Wonderworks" on PBS in the 80's.

    Granted, I haven't seen any of these in years... I was a little kid at the time... but those films were great, production values notwithstanding.

    I really hope the new films do as well with the text as those did. And, as a side note, I don't remember a whole lot of heavy-handed Christian doctrine in the films... although even at that age, I could see it plainly in the books.

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  9. Re:Shrek? by GnrlFajita · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have to agree. Totally leaving aside the strong Christian allegory of the books, I don't have high hopes that a director of an animated movie that relied on low and/or mean-spirited humor can do these books justice? Aslan != Shrek

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  10. Re:Whoops! Wrong turn down the Christian byway by praksys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Their motivation is to get as many people to heaven as possible. Most other religions can't claim this.

    One thing that Christianity can take credit for is its universalism - in principle at least everyone is equal in the eyes of God. Sure, there have been plenty of Christians who have failed to live up to that ideal, but at least they had the ideal, and they had it a long time before almost any other religion or culture.

    How many Muslims have asked you if you've been saved, and if you'd like to be?

    In fact Islam has exactly the same ideal. They got it from the Christians. As with Christianity there are Islamic groups that are not very interested in gaining converts, but there are others who are very enthusiastic about it. You will also find many who would be quite happy to send you to heaven.

    But the worst are evangelical atheists.

    Most atheists think that the only life you get is this one, and that if you waste it then you don't get a do-over. Their aim is to get people to live worthwhile lives instead of wasting their lives on delusions that make them feel good. Of course it might be bitter news if you thought you were going to heaven, but personally I found my conversion to atheism to be like waking up from a drugged stupor. I had never felt so alive until that moment when I recognised that life wouldn't last forever.

  11. Do the Space Trilogy Instead by Brown+Line · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The Narnia books have some wonderful writing in them, but the allegory is pretty heavy-handed. Also, Lewis's jumbled mythology - fawns and satyrs alongside Father Christmas and Norse frost giants - just doesn't work; and the children are weak protagonists. Also, the scriptwriters will have their hands full with the children's dialogue: either they can be true to the originals' pre-WWI public-school slang and confuse many of the American viewers; or they can update it and risk the wrath the books' fans. Not an easy problem.

    I would much rather see Lewis's Out of the Silent Planet adapted to film. Weda could do marvelous work imagining the space voyage and the inhabitants of Lewis's Mars. The hero, Dr. Ransom, who was modelled after Tolkien himself, is much more interesting than anyone in the Narnia books, including Aslan. It would be another great role for Ian McKellan; or if you think McKellan is too old, perhaps Alan Rickman. Just my $0.02 worth.

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  12. GEORGE MACDONALD - LILITH & PHANTASTES by johnrpenner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "I have never concealed the fact that I regarded him
    [George MacDonald] as my master; indeed I fancy
    I have never written a book in which I did not quote from him."

    (C.S.Lewis)

    when lewis carrol had doubts whether to publish the 'alice' books,
    it was George MacDonald who encouraged him to do so. he came
    out with some incredible fiction, among them, 'lilith' and 'phantastes'.

    one could say that macdonald was to carroll as tolkein was to lewis.
    madame l'engel called him the grand-father of the fantastic.
    some of his descriptions make such demands upon the
    imagination, that sometimes i think that 100 years later,
    the technology to make a film out of the book 'LILITH'
    still doesn't exist.