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DeCSS: Jon Johansen Acquitted In Retrial
EssJay writes "DVD-Jon is acquitted in the retrial. The verdict was expected in January, but was announced today in the papers." We had posted about the retrial beginning - it's a good holiday present to get this early.
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- Cows rampage in Norway
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Ah, Norway...Good point, but tell that to the idiots suing gun manufacturers. Or the grandmothers suing McDonald's over hot coffeee. Or people suing violent video game manufacturers. If only our court system were as clear-headed as you... :\
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Have a good day?! Impossible! I'm at work!
"This is a textbook example of a poster not knowing the full story"
...700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992...McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard."
No, I know all the facts and falsehoods even to the point that I have seen all your "twists" previously.
McDonald's was repeatedly warned that it was serving its coffee hotter than it should -- close to boiling
185 is many degrees away from boiling (Mis-stating the temperature is a common "spin" attempt). Also, the coffee was not hotter than it should have been: the customers preferred it this hot.
When the woman received third degree burns to her thighs because McDonald's repeatedly refused to.
No, she burned herself because of her OWN action. McDonald's sold millions of cups of this coffee. If it was really too hot, really too dangerous, there would be more than the 0.00007% rate of burn complaints. More like a 99% burn rate.
"sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds refused"
Why bother to bring this up again and again, when it is obvious that frivolous and greedy demands of any amount are too high?
In other words, that there was no problem, when you look at the many millions of cups of the same temperature consumed with no problems at all.
So, McDonald's knew they were serving their coffee too hot, they'd been sued before, and now a woman who removed the lid to add cream and sugar had to had skin grafts as a result.
That is all false: they did not know the coffee was hoot hot because it WASN'T. There had been frivolous lawsuits before, and so what? Your last sentence left out the most important fact: the "stunned cow" poured hot coffee on herself. McDonald's did not pour it, and McDonald's did not sell her coffee that LEAPS when you "remove the lid to add cream".
Once you know the minute details of this meritless case, you know even more than it was totally frivolous.
get your facts straight. I hate it when people reference the McDonalds coffee case and don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
What I know about the case is, that the coffee temp still was no more than 184F. When a coffee or a tea is properly made, the water should be boiling, aka 212F. You should then only drink it, when you carefully test it with spoon and think it has cooled enough to be drinkable. And as you know it's boiling, you should avoid spilling it at any costs - if you do anyway, that's your fault.
This is common sense, at least here in Europe (well, in most countries anyway). But it seems to me, that the crazy U.S. system expects everyone to be capable of reading EULA-like lawyer speech, but at the same time requires "childish behaviour with this thing could kill you" -style warnings included everywhere, expecting people can't think by themselves at all.
Sure, there are always people who really can't think by themselves, but here it's considered to be their problem, not manufacturer's. There are many reasons to blame McDonalds, but this isn't really one of them.
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Hell my instant hot water tap on my sink spits out 180 F degree water which I use to make hot chocolate and instant coffee when I'm lazy. Maybe i should spill it on myself and sue the manufactor. I mean 180 degrees is too dangerous. Please manufactors and companies, protect me from myself.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?