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Digital Music Stores Reviewed

Kozz writes "If you've thought about trying the new Napster 2.0, or perhaps MusicMatch, or even WAL*MART music service, you really need to read this review at BBspot.com. Brian takes a break from his standard satire fare and writes a comprehensive review not only of the previously mentioned stores, but also of BuyMusic.com, eMusic, Apple iTunes, and RealOne Rhapsody. It breaks down the features of each service, the prices, restrictions, general pros and cons, and really gives you an idea of which one(s) you should try depending on your needs."

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  1. you aren't buying anything, it's a service by Doppler00 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "File Type: Songs bought from Napster were available as protected .wma files ripped at 128 k."

    Great, not only is only 128k, it's probably lower quality than OGG, and I'm guessing that if you're computer hard drive were to fail (likely) you would lose every song you 'bought' because the license file is probably tied to your OS in some way.

    Maybe paying $10/month and using it like a radio station wouldn't be to bad, but letting people think that they 'bought' the song when you have no ability to make back up copies is stupid. Yes it mentioned burning it to a CD, but that would be an extra step re-encoding it back into the PC, and the quality would be lower.

    1. Re:you aren't buying anything, it's a service by hendridm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > If you break a CD from the store, are they obligated to give you a new one? What if it gets stolen? This is no different from the way it's been in the past.

      I'm not willing to accept that. If it was, indeed physical property I was buying that I could do what I want with, I might buy that argument. But according to the RIAA, I don't own the song - I have been issued a limited license to use it. Because of this restriction, I figure the least they can do is have some sort of "locker" or "purchase history" where I can re-download songs I've purchased licenses to in the past. I've sever other services that do this (font stores, stock photo libraries, etc) - why not digital music? Perhaps they could charge a *reasonable* bandwidth fee for the extra download(s)?

  2. Perhaps... by mikeophile · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea of actually paying for music online is still regarded as satirical by some?

  3. Digital music?! by F'Nok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until they realise that people don't want to pay for music per listen - but buy the right to listen to a song as many times as they want, whenever they want, in whatever format they want - these online stores are never going to be very successful.

    If I have to deal with one more WMA file I think I'll go nuts.

    The simple fact is, most people like to have a 'hard' copy of their favourite music, and the only reason that many don't buy them is because of the price.
    If it were $5 a CD I would buy every album I liked (and I would buy a hell of a lot). What they really nede to do to increase sales is introduce some sort of 'decent' rewards program, where the more often you buy music, the cheaper it is for you. (not the crappy buy 4 CD's and you can have one of these UNHEARD of bands albums!)

    P2P is winning not because people *want* to steal, but because the prices of CD's are too prohibitive for many people, and many find it offensive that the bands get so littl of the profit!

    They need a policy change, NOT a retailer change.

    1. Re:Digital music?! by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until they realise that people don't want to pay for music per listen - but buy the right to listen to a song as many times as they want, whenever they want, in whatever format they want - these online stores are never going to be very successful.

      Apparantly you are not familiar with iTunes?

      The simple fact is, most people like to have a 'hard' copy of their favourite music, and the only reason that many don't buy them is because of the price.

      What exactly is a 'hard' copy? I get the feeling most people are just fine with a digital file on their hard drive.

      If it were $5 a CD I would buy every album I liked

      Yeah, and if it were 25 cents a CD, I would buy every album I liked ... what's your point? Apple charges 99 cents a song, and 9.99 for most albums. This is, to me and most people, a fair price. In exchange, you get massive convenience, fair DRM, the ability to backup the files to CDROM and use them on any 3 computers you want, the ability to pick and choose songs off albums, etc.

      P2P is winning not because people *want* to steal, but because the prices of CD's are too prohibitive for many people, and many find it offensive that the bands get so littl of the profit!

      They need a policy change, NOT a retailer change.


      They've MADE a policy change! Was there a way to buy music like iTunes before iTunes? No. You rented the music, or you downloaded it off a P2P network (at your own risk). People said, give us a way to easily buy the music from you for a reasonable price, and we will. Apple listened and delivered. End of story.

      Their selection will grow, their clout with the labels will grow, we will see competition amongst the online music retailers like Apple, and we have a good shot of 'winning.'

      I don't think it's reasonable for someone to justify downloading music off P2P networks for free by saying, "Well, if they sold me the albums for $X then I'd stop downloading them for free!"

      I'm satisfied with iTunes, and I put pressure on my favorite artists and their labels to sell their albums on iTunes.

      AND I DON'T EVEN OWN AN IPOD!

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      Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
  4. There's a place for brick and mortar by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Online Features? What exactly DO we need in features? Near CD-quality, not very restrictive DRM, a good selection, and a decent price. Searches, reviews, and recommendations would be cool, too. You can get most of that in a record store with a knowledgeable music buff on the other side of the counter.

    What you don't get is the rustic appeal of going into a music store and enjoying the crowd and ambience. It's not the same when you're quoting NIN lyrics to a friend while passing by people who are shopping the contemporary christian aisle. Not the same as being able to watch people in goth clothing walk by. Not the same as being able to say "Chris I-Suck" (Chris Isaak) in public.

    Shop online for convenience, but it's still an experience. Brick and mortar stores still have something to offer. If nothing else, it makes getting music a social event instead of a personal thing. If you're the type to get the latest Britney Spears album, though...you may want to buy online and save yourself some ridicule. :)

  5. Re:How about... none. by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't want to give the RIAA my money, and distribution via the net doesn't change that at all. I buy the few CDs I want at concerts, in the hope that I'll still get legitimate music and the RIAA will get less money.
    Unless you are buying music from unsigned bands at these concerts, then you're not doing anything different from buying at Walmart.

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  6. Re:How about... none. by 77Punker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about buying CD's from bands that aren't from the RIAA? I like punk rock, and most of the good honest punk rock bands aren't on the RIAA. If you're not sure who is (it can be hard to tell) try here and it'll tell you if they're part of the cartel. Good Stuff.

  7. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by damiam · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With iTunes you're locked into the iPod, with the other stores you're locked into DRM-supporting WMA portables. Considering that there are probably at least as many iPod owners as all WMA/DRM-supporting devices combined, I don't think it much matters.

    Also, I personally would rather buy music from iTunes, because the M4P format has been cracked. That means that I can completely un-DRM the music and listen in any AAC-supporting player of my choice, on any platform. You don't have that freedom (yet) with WMA.

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  8. Re:How about supporting bands you like by acomj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't like the RIAA don't buy music. You should note that the record labels pay the RIAA, you don't directly.

    Note if you have a song from a band and you didn't pay for it the RIAA isn't getting money, but neither is the band.

    The band might only be getting a little bit from the sale, but they signed with an RIAA label and a little is better than 0.

    If you like the music support those making it.

  9. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by Graff · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With iTunes you're locked into the iPod, with the other stores you're locked into DRM-supporting WMA portables.

    Not true. With iTunes you can burn a CD and play that on any CD player, totally DRM-free. If you want to you can also re-rip those songs off the CD into any format you choose, again totally DRM-free. Then they can be played on any player you want.

    Also, I personally would rather buy music from iTunes, because the M4P format has been cracked.

    The M4P format has not been cracked at all. What was done was someone patched the binaries of iTunes so that they could capture the unencrypted data while it was being played (or streamed, I forget which). That data can then be re-captured into a DRM-free format. It's basically similar to burning a CD and then ripping it, without the CD step.

    The advantages to iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are the awesome user interface, the minimal DRM, the song selection, the exclusive tracks. the iPod, its cross-platform nature, and the fact that it will be around for a while considering it has at least 50% of the market.
  10. Re:How about... none. by WaKall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That totally depends on why you aren't buying CDs. Some folks don't want to line the pockets of the RIAA (which is a fine reason), and others just don't like the format (rather buy songs than albums). I bet there's even a group that just finds buying online easier.

    For the second group above, online music buying is pretty attractive, as they can buy individual songs w/o paying 5$ for a CD single.

    Personally, I'm all about CD albums - I like the physical product, and I like being able to encode it to match my own preferences. I use iTMS to buy songs occasionally to see if I like a band/album by example, or to get 'that song' that I like from that artist that I could care less about. It means I don't have to boot up the PC, run Kazaa, hunt through dupes, and get rid of incompletes.

    Now, if you're into a band and can buy their music at the concert, or directly from the band, DO SO. They'll get a bigger cut. It won't show up in Billboard (via SoundScan, the aggravating labels that are on top of the jewel cases), but the artist gets more money, and the RIAA gets less.

    Finally, for an example of a band that has said 'screw the labels' and gone their own road, there is Marillion. They got their fans to front the cost of the last album (and the next one, which is due out next year) many months in advance of shipping, without even hearing a thing. To have a band that is that in tune with it's fans is an amazing thing. With the exception of electronic delivery, this is the revolution in music authoring and distribution that was supposed to happen.

  11. Amazing by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of the readers of this site still fail to realize this is not the Borg hive-mind.

    SOME people are boycotting the RIAA. SOME people aren't. We all post on slashdot.

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  12. They won't let go by BrianRoach · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The problem with all the online music stores is ... control. You can't just download a high-quality MP3 and use it how you'd like.

    Don't think that the RIAA doesn't "get it". They do. They just don't want you to "get it". "It" being music at a reasonable price in the format you want without restrictions on how you can use it.

    The RIAA's (their members', actually) business is based on control. They want to control what you hear and how you hear it. Without this control, their entire business model breaks. If any old artist can self-publish online (or be published online by a 3rd party for a reasonable fee) with world-wide exposure ... they become redundant. I honestly believe this is their big fear.

    Everyone knows what the public wants: .mp3's (or OGG for the tech savvy) at a high bitrate for a reasonable price, conveniently. In any other industry, you'd see the producers of a product jumping on the chance to produce something that millions of people want.

    - Roach

  13. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    With iTunes you can burn a CD and play that on any CD player, totally DRM-free. If you want to you can also re-rip those songs off the CD into any format you choose, again totally DRM-free. Then they can be played on any player you want.

    But AAC is a lossy format which you'd be burning to a CD and then re-encoding into probably another lossy format (MP3). Quality will be crappy. Where are the music services that offer FLAC downloads or some other lossless music file format with or without DRM? The RIAA wants them to charge based on what a CD with 12-15 tracks would cost, but fails to properly warn the public that what they're downloading is far inferior to the audio quality you'd get with a real CD. Personally a cheap knock-off 192kbps mp3 or AAC encoded music track is only worth about 5 cents to me. If it was in FLAC I'd consider it for $1 since if I uncompressed it I'd have the exact same thing I'd get with the CD.