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Fingers Crossed for Beagle

Adam_Trask writes "Never has a spacecraft been built so quickly, on so little money, and been sent on such a long journey fraught with so many dangers. Beagle 2 has been carried to the vicinity of Mars by the Mars Express mothership, and released successfully to go its own way for the final leg of the journey."

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  1. *cough* by skinfitz · · Score: 1, Informative

    Adam_Trask writes "Never has a spacecraft been built so quickly, on so little money, and been sent on such a long journey fraught with so many dangers. Beagle 2 has been carried to the vicinity of Mars by the Mars Express mothership, and released successfully to go its own way for the final leg of the journey."

    Actually those words were written by Dr David Whitehouse, BBC News Online science editor.

  2. If you want to know more about Mars by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 5, Informative

    Perhaps the best science book I've ever read is A Traveler's Guide to Mars. This book is full of the latest imagery from various mapping missions, and the author (well known planetary scientist William K. Hartmann) tells you, in clear enjoyable prose, basically everything we know about Mars and how it has been figured out. It turns out that Mars is way more interesting (and wet) than you probably expect. If you plan on following the Beagle 2 mission and the two NASA rovers that follow next month, then this is the book to have.

    G.

  3. Re:Xmas Presents by JimPooley · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be 'Leicester, the Beagle has landed' - the whole thing is being controlled from the National Space Centre in Leicester, where you can actually go and watch the control centre in action.

    Although actually it's going to announce itself by playing a tune by Blur, as well as using a Damien Hirst painting to calibrate the cameras.

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  4. Merely the beginning by mhw25 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Lets not forget the Beagle/Mars Express is only the first of a trio of spacecraft to Mars this year. Look at JPL: Where are Spirit and Opportunity right now and you can see how close the spacecrafts of the Terran armada is together. A golden opportunity for science if all of them make it.

    In terms of expectations/cost factor the Beagle/Mars Express is perhaps the most ambitious one, therefore the high emphasis on what could go wrong in the Beeb article. A kind of be hopeful but keep your fingers crossed thingy.

  5. Re:Beagle? by flyingdisc · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's named after the beagle, which if I remember rightly was the ship Captain Cook used to sail to Australia and through the pacific. I guess it's trying to conjure up the image of exploring to great unknown.

  6. Re:Beagle? by SquareOfS · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, half right. It's named after the Beagle, which is the ship on which Charles Darwin was the naturalist, which visited (among other places) the Galapagos Islands, where Darwin formulated much of the theory of evolution by natural selection.

  7. Re:I knew Snoopy would made it... by stevesliva · · Score: 3, Informative
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  8. Re:The Beagle by snake_dad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just a quick FYI: the actual landing site name is Isidis Planitia. (Don't click the resources link unless you like pink...)

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  9. Re:Beagle? by CompWerks · · Score: 4, Informative
    I guess this explains it:

    How the H.M.S. Beagle got Her Name

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  10. More news on ESA Mars efforts by zzabur · · Score: 5, Informative
    ESA is also planning long term Aurora programme for eventual manned mission to Mars.

    Aurora roadmap:

    • 2007 - an entry vehicle demonstrator mission to validate and demonstrate high-speed re-entry technology
    • 2009 - ExoMars, an exobiology mission to send a rover to Mars in order to search for traces of life - past or present - and characterise the nature of the surface environment.
    • 2011 / 2014 - Mars sample return, a split mission to bring back to Earth the first samples of Martian material
    • 2014 - Human mission technologies demonstrator(s) to validate technologies for orbital assembly and docking, life support and human habitation
    • 2018 - a technology precursor mission to demonstrate aerobraking/aerocapture, solar electric propulsion and soft landing (formerly envisaged as a smaller Arrow-class mission to be launched in 2010)
    • 2024 - a human mission to the Moon to demonstrate key life support and habitation technologies, as well as aspects of crew performance and adaptation and in situ resources utilisation technologies
    • 2026 - an automatic mission to Mars to test the main phases of a human mission to Mars
    • 2030 / 2033 - a split mission that will culminate in the first human landing on Mars

    More information: ESA or Spacedaily.

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  11. Re:Huh? by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative

    You'd have trouble adapting to Sweden and other countries like Germany. :-) Where we always write two words as one, and it's even considered bad practice to separate them. The reason is because of problems like this:

    "ice cream" vs "icecream". Here, "ice cream" (written in swedish) would mean "some cream made of ice" literally, while "icecream" would be a completely different word meaning, well:

    A smooth, sweet, cold food prepared from a frozen mixture of milk products and flavorings.

    I.e. what you probably mean with "ice cream".

    Because of "problems" like these, swedes, germans and probably many more, write words together if they mean something special when written together. Or, uh, something like that. :-)

    "nose cone" in swedish would be "a cone you put on your nose", or something weird like that, while "nosecone" is a special "thing", in this case:

    The forwardmost, usually separable section of a rocket or guided missile that is shaped to offer minimum aerodynamic resistance and often bears protective cladding against heat.

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  12. Re:Oh boy by Bill_Mische · · Score: 2, Informative

    Better yet, they filmed it for BBC2. We saw the bugger fail first time round. But in the end it had to go on time or not go at all.

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  13. Re:Weight Loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Guess we need a super-smart AI to pilot the ships then.

    great book.

    What I meant to say though was they mentioned on Radio 4 just yesterday that 50,000 tons of new material is deposited on Earth every year - mainly in the sea and mainly in very small particles.

    so we're a way off a net loss...

  14. Re:Landing time? by Bowdie · · Score: 2, Informative

    08:20Zulu December 25th.

    Happy to help.

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  15. Dupe? by Orne · · Score: 4, Informative

    Timothy approved a much more informative summary article Yesterday, in the Science section, here, detailing all the issues encountered before landing.

  16. Re:No offense by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 3, Informative

    The reason for this? They accidentally uploaded the Ariane 4 software to the Ariane 5 before launch. Needless to say, the rockets didn't work exactly the same. :-)

    This math bug caused both the primary and backup computers to hang.

    They didn't use the Ariane 4 software by accident. They intentionally re-used the software (presumably with some constants changed) and tried to save money by omitting thorough re-testing.

    See section 2.1 of the report on the Ariane 5 failure for a full explanation of how it happened.

  17. Re:If it is really as bad as... by Mark+Hood · · Score: 2, Informative

    They were basically told 'hey, want to send a probe? it's got to be ready next week and weigh less than X kg' so they had to rush it.

    See the official History

    OK, so they had 5 1/2 years from 'hang on lads, I've got an idea' to launch date - but NASA usually take a lot longer than that to design, develop and test probes.

    So they're taking a gamble, on the basis that it's better to try and fail than never try. And if it works, it'll be fantastic.

    Mark

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  18. Re:Darmstadt, the Beagle has landed by NickFitz · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are both almost right :-)

    The National Space Science Centre, Leicester, UK hosts the Lander Operations Control Centre (LOCC). The Open University, Milton Keynes, UK hosts the Lander Operations Planning Centre (LOPC). And Darmstadt, Germany is the location of the Mars Express Mission Control, which handles the spacecraft which was carrying Beagle 2 until a few days ago, and which will be used (along with NASA's Mars Odyssey) to communicate with the lander.

    More info from sunny Leicester. (Actually, it's raining here right now.)

    I've never visited the NSSC, although I only live about 2 miles away from it. (It looks like a giant condom.) Sounds like Christmas would be a good time to get over there.

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  19. Re:I'm going to have to disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Well that's interesting as the only Britsh cars are those well out of the league of regular drivers. You could go back a few decades to find the likes of Morris and Rover, but most people here on /. aren't even two decades old.

    Of course, these days, even those quality vehicles are owned by US or Jap companies. The real problem cars are those made by Ford and GM (Vauxhall in the UK), both are US companies despite their UK image.

    The UK also has an annual vehicle inspect for road worthiness, unlike some states in the US. We have some real trash on the roads.

  20. Re:I'm going to have to disagree by elvum · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ah... ironically, in Britain, American cars have the reputation of doing about ten miles to the gallon and belching out pollution as if global warming was a left-wing conspiracy ;-)