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FreeBSD 5.2 RC2 Now Available
Dan writes "FreeBSD Release Engineering Team's Scott Long announces the availability of FreeBSD 5.2 RC2 which fixes a number of bugs, specifically the one in which users experienced system panics during install and dynamic library problems in the 'fixit' environment. Scott is asking everyone to test this release over the holidays. You can download it from one of your preferred mirror sites." Update: 12/24 23:01 GMT by T : Dan writes with more info: "Scott Long has also laid out a roadmap for future FreeBSD 5.3 releases now that FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 is getting close to release quality."
FreeBSD should've died on Verona 3. Truly.
Frosty toasty holiday posty!
w00t to your mother, as AC Hammer might have said.
A BSD download and personals ad doesn't mix ...
or is it the work of a d(a)emon ?
I have always loved open source projects.. this has a unique opportunity of researching on your own and learning what others have done on the research.. like simple scalar tool available on University of Texas austin that allows you to research on microprocessor design I consider this one is a nice research tool in OS. Crossing my fingers for this release.
It's piece of shit. Dead meat. Tannenbaum already commented it is worth nothing. *BSD is a dead man walking.
[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It
FreeBSD corrupted my HD!! That was the last thing!!!!! Never gonna touch that piece of shit again!!!! Stick with OSs that work.
"Peace on earth, good will to men!" to you too...
No, you silly man. It is NOT BSD that's dying. It's Santa Claus. Every year, millions of children around the Western world are discovering Santa Claus isn't real. :: sigh :: I don't have the energy to try and finish this one.. Anyone?
If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
OSDN now has a *BSD Dating Service
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don't you dare talk bad about *BSD.. you'll get modded down..
Not nearly as much as you would for talking bad about Linux, or even worse, talking up M$.
BS. You guys talk bad about Linux in here all the time and it gets modded UP.
Oct. 23 -- BSD resumed receiving life-sustaining care yesterday in a
Florida hospital room, but many experts said there is virtually no hope
that it will ever recover, despite it fan boy's desperate hopes.
"IF IT'S over a year, BSD's not ever going to get up," said Fred Plum, a
professor emeritus at Weill Cornell College in New York. "You'd just
don't see it. It just doesn't happen."
BSD, 39, has been in a persistent vegetative
state since its heart stopped for unknown reasons in 1990. A feeding
tube in BSD's stomach was removed this past Wednesday after its husband,
Theo De Ratt, who said his wife had told him she (BSD) would not want to
be kept alive under such circumstances, won a long series of court
battles to have life-sustaining nourishment withdrawn so she (BSD) could
die.
you fell for a troll
Why was this modded down but the one above it not?
They're both WAY offtopic. Oh wait, its not about topic, its all about how much of *BSD's ass you kissed.
Sorry, I thought the moderation around here was fair and unbiased.
flask of ripe urine
pressed to dead bsd lips
bsd drink up
When your whole family dies in a horrible and bizarre way, I will laugh and sing.
Look up the word kaput for clarification.
Hope this helps.
You sir, are a N00B
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
notice how all the moronic posts saying BSD is dead come from anonymous posters, in other words people who don't have a pair and don't have any real arguement. take a look at netcraft you bozos and see if bsd is dieing. I use bsd, it's got a much more coherent design then linux and it's documentation is much much better. It's multimedia isn't quiet as good as linux yet but that hasn't been as much of a focus as for linux. In short if you think BSD is old hat and dieing your an idiot, nuff said.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
all fluff, conjecture, no supporting evidence, and takes cheap potshots at Linux.
'nuff said
No, not rocket science. Just ordinary common sense.