G5 vs Opteron, Finally

metfoo writes "It's been months since the G5 and Opterons have been available for purchase. When the G5 systems were first released, many Mac bashers and AMD nuts discredited the G5's performance. They always ended their comments with 'Wait until its compared to an Opteron, then we'll talk.' Well, it's finally time to talk. Barefeats has posted an article comparing the two systems. The G5 line was compared to a Dual 2GHz Opteron and the results are impressive. In gaming, the Opteron system proved to be superior, which is partly due to the superior 9800XT over the base Radeon 9800. The G5 spanks the Opteron in many of the non-gaming tests, except for the Photoshop tests."

Comments

Re:Price?

[ocelotbob]

I guess it's really dependent on the feature set. At the 1.6Ghz or 1.8Ghz proc speed, one can get an Opteron/A64 for a hell of a lot cheaper than the same clocked G5. Really, AMD's top end is the only part that's overpriced, the slower procs are pretty much just as good, and don't require selling your first born son.

Also, from the experience I've had, OS X is ugly, bloated and buggy. I'll stick with x86, thank you.

Re:Price?

[nathanh]

In August I built my new pc after 5 years of my Pentium 3 450 with a TNT2. It cost me $1000. The equivalent machine from dell cost $2500. That's a $1500 savings.

I find this difficult to believe. Dell is typically 20-25% more expensive than a whitebox. Your figures suggest 150% more expensive.

I suspect the whitebox you built was perhaps not exactly the same as the Dell.

Apple isn't expensive when you compare the price/performance ratio with Dell, HP or Sony. That's because they are all rediculously expensive compared to building it yourself.

There's no "e" in ridiculous.

Yes, the vendors are more expensive. No, I don't think they're ridiculously expensive. The price differences I find are about $200-$300 on a low-end system. I prefer building whiteboxes to save that $200-$300 but I wouldn't sneer at those people who couldn't be bothered.

But.

[Sj0]

There's a problem; every goddamned apple benchmark for the past 10 years has been utterly biased towards the apple because otherwise only artsy people get any sort of increase, and they don't get to use any software.

To me, Apple has always has been like linux without the possiblity of installing windows. Great. Just what I always wanted, no compatiblity for a 4% speed increase.

Re:pcworld did this a little while ago.

[felonious]

It's common knowlegde apple users cannot admit or accept the truth when it concerns apple products. They base a substantial part of their argument on the "coolness" factor and that's a fucking joke. Apple annoced the G5 when?
How many months ago?
How many months did it take before it came out?
How long did it take for Intel/AMD to match and pass it?
How long until Apple releases their next generation and how long after that will it reach the market?

When I feel like paying double for a pretty case, proprietary hardware, lack of customization, one button mice, lack of software choices, gaming, and riding Steven Jobs jock and taking offense to any comment that isn't raving about Apple then maybe I'll buy one....until then I'll spend my money on something that doesn't turn me into a egocentric, artsy, elitist, douchebag.

Yes Apple users I'm aiming that right between your cutting edge eyes.

P.S. Take your Ipods and shove 'em up your rose smelling asses:D