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Konqueror Compiled For Mac OS X; KOffice Next

scishop writes "Benjamin Reed has just compiled Konqueror for Mac OS X after porting the KUniqueApplication class. A screenshot of the running program can be found here. According to Reed's blog, 'next up is KOffice.'"

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  1. Re:seems odd... by after · · Score: 4, Informative

    What a great idea!

    That IS odd that they could not have ported
    that to the Cygwin platform... I mean, X11
    is available and all.

    Wait, but isnt there already a port of KDE
    to Cygwin?

  2. Re:seems odd... by Durin_Deathless · · Score: 5, Informative

    This port doesn't use X11 at all. I have been on the maillist, and the stumbling block has been the X11 specific code(and a minor thing in QT-mac, reguarding extensions of shared libs). This is a real achievement, and rangerrick is to be greatly congratulated!

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  3. A bit offtopic, but I need to vent by Starship+Trooper · · Score: 4, Informative
    Perhaps someone on the Qt/Mac or equivalent GTK project could answer this for me. Why is it that when these toolkits get ported to another other platform, be it Windows, MacOS, BeOS or what have you, they insist on looking and acting as GTK or Qt applications rather than native apps? A Qt/Windows or GTK/Windows app would be much more useful and usable to me if it used native Windows widgets and thus fit in with every other program I use.

    As an example, I use gaim on FreeBSD because its tabbed interface is simply the best I've come across. I would love to use it instead of Trillian when I'm forced into using Windows. But the Windows port of gaim, which uses GTK+/Windows, works horribly. The GTK theme doesn't match my XP settings, widgets draw slowly and work clumsily (tooltips in particular seem to spontaneously appear and refuse to go away, even when the program is minimized!), and all in all it feels like a cheap Wal-Mart knockoff.

    GTK+ widgets offer no benefits over standard Windows controls -- they draw slower, they don't match the environment, and Windows is just as themable as GTK is. Going back on-topic, this Qt/Mac port of Konqueror likewise eschews native widgets for the entirely out-of-place Qt look. All I can ask is Why? Wouldn't it be far easier for Qt/ and GTK/Windows or /Mac to simply wrap native widgets, rather than poorly ape them?

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    1. Re:A bit offtopic, but I need to vent by jdub! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Check out GTK-Wimp: http://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/ Very tasty, if you run GTK+ applications under Windows (particularly XP). It's even mentioned on the Gaim website. :-)

  4. Re:why? by abigor · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can other browsers drag a file from a remote machine via ssh and drop it on another machine via ftp? Browse a digital camera? Connect to SMB shares? And of course, browse the Web - all at the same time, in different tabs and split screens?

    No. Konqueror browses practically everything, not just the Web.

    All that said, I do wonder if the kioslaves made it into this OS X version of Konqueror.

  5. Re:Why isn't X11 running? by clarkcox3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, that's the whole point of what he did. You can already run KDE under X11 on OSX. (I've done it before). The thing that is special about this was that he actually *ported* it to OSX's Quartz windowing system.

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  6. Re:Redundancy by clarkcox3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're not misinformed, Safari does indeed use the KHTML engine. But the point of this appears to be to show the world that KDE apps can be ported to OSX in a manner that they won't require X11 (which a lot of the less-expert users shy away from). This means that these applications can be "first class" Mac applications.

    I.e. someday soon, we may see grandmas everywhere running KOffice instead of shelling out hundreds for MS Office.

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  7. Re:OS X Maximizes browser choice? by Graff · · Score: 5, Informative
    omniweb is safari in drag. and konqueror, although nice it is finally ported, is more or less for proof of concept. opera for mac isn't even up to 7.0 yet if i remember right, with opera being all pissed at apple releasing safari. so that really leaves you with safari, and the mozilla browsers.

    OmniWeb may use the same underlying rendering and scripting engine that Safari uses but it is actually quite different than Safari. They are both great products but OmniWeb by far provides you with more functionality

    About the only thing that Safari has over OmniWeb is tabbed browsing. OmniWeb has many more options than Safari such as regex filtering of content from sites, the ability to easily masquerade as any type of browser running on any type of operating system, autofilling of forms, tons of display options, the ability to set up shortcuts for the url input line ("google something" starts a Google search for something, "dict something" looks up something in dictionary.com, etc), and much more.

    I'm not knocking Safari, it's a really nice, lean browser but its feature set is almost too lean. OmniWeb is kind of like a full-featured version of Safari.