FreeBSD Ports Collection Breaks 10,000 Ports
sremick writes "After breaking the 9,000 mark in July, the FreeBSD ports collection was well on its way of crossing 10,000 by the end of 2003. Sure enough, we made it! According to freshports, the number of ports in the FreeBSD ports tree currently stands at 10,015. This little graph is also nice, though not completely current. Way to go, FreeBSD!"
That title makes it look like changes to the port system broke all the ports. Maybe "exceeds" rather than "breaks"?
I can't say that I don't give a fuck. I've just run out of fuck to give.
I hear a port of apt-get is in the works!!!!!
(kidding)
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
I thought they meant 10,000 ports won't compile any more!! Find the guy that checked in *that* change and SHOOT HIM!
But, uh, that's not what it means. So congrats guys, I LOVES ME THE FREEBSD PORTS!!!
Seems development has been rather steady for a while now. I predict 11,000 ports in... 6 months.
Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
Is there a good listing of all the ports and what they do?
/usr/ports/ and cat the pkg-descr file, but is there anything out there a little more user-friendly?
I know a script could be written to search
... and three of them are mine.
Makes one realize how insignificant one's own contribution is, when one has contributed less than 0.03% of the total.
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If you strike it down, it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!
Way to go, guys; the comparative newcomer that I use (Gentoo) is only up to 7,167 or so packages!
pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Not one to feed the trolls, but they need to be countered once in a while.
BSD is not dying, BSD is not a "terminal OS". BSD is fast, stable, scalable and rivals Linux in areas of security (especially openBSD) and openness. It's a good middle ground for developers worried about the implications of the GPL and has it's advantages as well as disadvantages.
BSD and Linux both have their place in the Open Source world, and neither will be leaving us any time soon.
Would you like to list which these are? Also, how many of the 10,000 or so ports would you consider to be most?
Seems like there's only like 64 ports that are considered broken. Either you have some fucked up logic, but 64 out of 10,019 doesn't sound like most to me.
Congrats to the FreeBSD. Keep up the good work! You're doing great!
Hey Harv, apparently the moderators haven't had a chance to notice that this is one of your usual reposts to all *BSD threads. That's the only way this post could still be labeled 'interesting'.
Harv, this is factually incorrect as per my last reply to one of your threads. There are 237 broken on i386-current, about half due to gcc3.3 issues.
This is how you determine the amount of packages in Portage: # qpkg | wc -l 5930 ;)
btw, "emerge gentoolkit" to get qpkg.
$ ls /var/db/pkg|wc -l
334
but that's on a recently re-installed box, I think I used to be up in 500+
--AP
Was tried a year ago. Did not work then.
Proof? I've never seen an example of the *BSD community ever ignoring troll posts, or being able to shut its mouth from trolling in Linux threads for that matter.
In fact, everything on my system is either part of the base or was installed via ports. This includes perl CPAN modules, which have their own entries in the ports tree.
Freshports' categories list is a great way to browse the contents of the FreeBSD ports tree.
The alternatives for freebsd are just garbage in comparison. ifstat is as bland as it gets. trafshow comes close in a few respects but still doesn't touch IPtraf. Where is the "Lan Station Monitor", where are the detailed interface statistics?
Ntop is not an option, its a for browsers, not the console.
So many ports, so many contributors, it must be a conscious effort to avoid porting this program. Is it that difficult? Yes I know it relies too heavily on linux's /proc to get its data. So its not a project that takes 5 minutes to port to freebsd. Does that mean its not worth doing?
I'm not a programmer and I don't wish to become one. I just hope that some day, at some point someone decides to port this. Afterall there is a ton of garbage in ports right now, it'd be nice to add some *new* AND *useful* tools.
This stems from the author's inability (or he just plain doesn't care) to write cross-platform conforming code. /STOP/ using linux headers in your code, and join the world of ANSI C already. Don't blame *BSD, or shall I begin a tirade about Linux because none of my audio applications written for Windows work in it? Makes just as much sense.
... programmers) If ports is full of crap, that'd be the "open source" community's fault for releasing shoddy/worthless code. The ports commiters just make it simplistic to compile with dependancies, they (usually) didn't write the stuff. Your post sounds more like trolling than a legitimate cry for help/suggestions.
quote> it'd be nice to add some *new* AND *useful* tools.
You don't have to rely on ports to install stuff, I have to compile stuff manually quite often, ports is more of a "nicety". Might I also add, it's VERY common for me to have to FIX someone's code so it compiles on platforms other than Linux. (So much for skilled
(use nload if you're looking to see real-time traffic utilization on your console, including a nifty real-time ascii graph, and a gob of other configurable stuff - ooh-aah.)
-mpf
Ah, the shameless trolling.
I'll humor you, and let's JUST say, (Although, I certainly disagree with your premise however.) FreeBSD is dying. What would your point be? It's still better than Linux, in more aspects than I have time to list here. Besides, The -core team won't evaporate, our community is too large, and too many skilled coders would love a commit bit.
(I've been running linux since kernel 0.99, and freebsd since kernel 2.2, I've got some clues about both os's, as I've hacked around in both kernels extensively too)
Well, going along with your logic, I guess Linux is dying too, since Microsoft still holds so much market share, and will continue to. Had you happened to notice the climb in w2k3 servers? It'd still be a POS no matter if 99% of Internet/Intranet Servers ran it. According to you, the open source community has quite a grim future.
I suppose you draw your conclusions differently,however I don't implement an operating system because it's the "hip" thing to do, or because of a "clique". Nor because, "everyone else does" - I run FreeBSD at every one of our locations, because I live and die based on how well my servers operate, and for the last ~10 years or so, I've been QUITE content thanks to FreeBSD. (There was a time I was quite content with Linux as well, that ended not long after the 2.0 kernel came on the scene, fyi.)
Fact: Clueless is as clueless does.
-mpf p.s. don't forget, freebsd existed when it's user-base was not even 1/1000th of what it is today.
YBHT. YHL. HAND.