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Tech Support - To Phone or Not To Phone?

flyingember asks: "With years of experience with tech support I have yet to come to a conclusion as to which form of support to use. Phone, or not phone. For some companies their online chat is great, I used it often with HP since you were much more likely to get through fast during a peak time of the day and the support was high quality. I recently used Philip's online chat to ask about a product feature (or lack of) and they demanded a name, zip and phone number, then claimed the product wasn't supported through chat and that I had to call when I refused to give this. I've had mixed luck with phone support. From half-hour hold times and little knowledge with some companies to well-staffed techs such as with installing a DSL account or getting the Internet on my phone. I have used email chat with some companies, and it does the job as well as email does allowing lots of detail but has lag sometimes. Which do you think is better, support over the phone or support another way?"

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  1. It depends... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    On which one you can get access to the shortest amount of time. If you don't have net access or can't get to a place with it, you won't be able to get much useful help from a chat room. If you CAN get online and get help in a chat room, that would seem to be an easier and faster than meddling around waiting for phone support.

  2. Re:It depends by Captain+Pedantic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Support over chat works better as someone can deal with multiple "calls" at once. Let's face it.. if you are waiting on the phone for someone to reboot, your productivity is zero. It also makes it easier to copy and paste error messages (if you're not using an OS or software which prevents copying and pasting error messages.

    The downside is, it can take longer to get to the bottom of a problem. If you have someone who knows what they are talking about then you will be able to sort it out quicker over the phone. Of course, when you have to pass things like URLs or file paths, it is easier to send them over on chat.

    In my job, I use both, as they both have advantages... but I would give up the phone before I would give up chat.

    (and personally, I find crap english easier to deal with on chat than on the phone)

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  3. My Experience With Gateway by routerwhore · · Score: 3, Interesting
    After I purchased my Gateway laptop, I went to them for support after blowing off XP and dual-booting 2000 and slackware. I couldn't get my NIC driver to work under 2000 and contacted them for support via online chat. After 35 minutes of me repeating the question "Can you please just tell me the model of my NIC or not", I finally said, you obviously don't know the question and have wasted my time. I'm going to call now and tell them about my experience. He promptly REBOOTED my machine remotely in the hopes that I wouldn't capture the session. Little did he know I had been saving it every couple of minutes anyway. I called in afterwards relayed the conversation and asked the same question. It took about as long on the phone, but the guy was quick to say that they changed out the models of parts all the time and the info didn't get distributed to the techs. We figured it out via trial and error.

    By the way, after several other phone calls for other issues that ended with supervisors actually swearing at me or hanging up on me, I decided Gateway as a company really sucks and it must be their company culture that drives everyone to be so generally bitter and evil. I had much better experiences with Dell.

    1. Re:My Experience With Gateway by Nasarius · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's sad that Gateway support went from amazingly good in the early-mid 90s (personal anecdote: they upgraded me from 486/33 to 486/50 for free when they were out of stock, came with complete manuals, etc) to their current position, which seems to be the absolute worst in the industry. I know of at least one large company who used to deal with them almost exclusively, and now won't touch them at all.

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    2. Re:My Experience With Gateway by elemental23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He promptly REBOOTED my machine remotely in the hopes that I wouldn't capture the session.

      How did he manage this? Did you actually install some sort of remote administration software for them to use? It couldn't be something they pre-installed since you say you contacted them after replacing the OEM XP install with Win2k.

      You are far more trusting than I, especially when it comes to dealing with front-line tech support.

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  4. Phone support trumps all because... by snooo53 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    well, if your computer is non-operational, chat isn't an option. I know this is stating the obvious, but it's true. There always has to be some form of phone support. And dead hardware is a fairly common problem.

    What would be really cool is if there was a good way of profiling users to see their technical competancy. Perhaps by a few simple questions or commands like "Okay pull up a command prompt", or "what Bios version do you have?", stuff like that. The times I've had to contact support I already know the problem, have tried the typical solutions (ie dropping it in another box, trying newer drivers, etc...) and just need a new unit. Not to jump through the typical hoops "yes it's plugged in". Of course the problem with this is the semi-knowlegable people that *think* they've tried everything but are really overlooking something simple.

    So I dunno, any ideas on how to do said profiling? The only thing I've really noticed from the tech support I've done is that the semi-knowlegable people are typically assholes on the phone, whereas everyone else is generally calm.

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    1. Re:Phone support trumps all because... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The company's "real" experts write the scripts which the support people execute. If you bottom out of the script, then the support goes freeform.

      If you fight with the support person and they haven't executed their script, then their ass is on the line if you get to senior support people... who write the scripts... and it turns out you didn't have it plugged in.

      When I did tech support I used to gauge people's knowledge by telling them what I'm going to have them do, before I tell them how to do it.

      e.g. "Now we're going to check the event viewer... click Start..."

      There are two typical responses:

      1. "Yeah yeah, it's open."
      2. "O.k., I've clicked Start"

      Sometimes you get a twit who just gets confused, but then you know never to say anything technical again.

      I personally hate tech support people who do this:

      "O.k. Click Start"

      "But what are we doing?"

      "Are you going to listen to me or not!? Click Start"

      "O.k. I've clicked Start"

      "Click Settings"

      "O.k. I've clicked Settings"

      "..."

      For technical end-users, it is irritating as hell to get treated like this. Helpdesk people should know better and listen to the frustration on the part of their customers rather than telling them to shut up.

      I was fortunately in a position where I could do a lot of freeform technical support. I was the guy who got the call after the scripts failed and the technican screwed everything up by troubleshooting out of their scope. It wasn't out of the question for me to listen carefully to the customer's opinion, and I did it often. I also wrote or contributed to a lot of scripts.

      What I hated to do was to go over the scripts and feed back on the technician who screwed up... You can't contact the technican directly because you don't want them to know who you are... the vengeful assholes out there have made life more difficult for everyone. So I'd have to call their pit bosses or team leaders. If their boss was good they'd see it as an opportunity to correct a problem. If their boss was bad, they'd see it as a bullet point for review time :-(

  5. A better question by turg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exactly. It depends.

    There is, however, a hint of a better question in flyingember's post when he talks about how he's got good response out of HP's online chat. What I'd like to hear from slashdotters is what type of response you get from specific companies in different mediums.

    e.g. when you contact eBay through their webforms/email, they first respond with a form letter that doesn't answer your question and then you reply explaining why it doesn't answer your question and then on the second (or third) response, you get the answer to your question. When you use their chat service, you get good answers quickly, but the people manning the chat service are outsourcers and can only provide information on how to use eBay in general -- they can't answer specific questions about your account or anything that's gone wrong, etc.

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  6. Phone, if you can work it... by mercuryresearch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With the few tech support disasters I've had to deal with, by phone usually has worked best -- but there are tricks to getting it to work, like making sure you take notes of who you talk to so you can reach them again. With some companies there's a decided change in quality of tech support depending on the time of day. (Strangely enough for me, it worked out that calling from 2am-4am has netted the best tech support.)

    I strong concur with the recommendation to Google first. I've also found that email tech support pretty much sucks -- I've had an email request to download updated firmware for a 3Com wireless router that's on week 3 of waiting for approval at the moment, and all too many similar experiences.

    Like it or not, self-help (google, mailing lists) is pretty much the way to go these days.