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Cringely's 2004 Predictions

somethinghollow writes "Cringely's 2004 Predictions are out, and he makes a very interesting claim concerning Linux: 'The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has. This will come to a head in 2004 with either the development of a new organizational structure for Linux or the start of its demise. Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004.' With a claimed 70% successful prediction rate, you at least have to listen..."

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  1. As a member of the Linux community... by jrockway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can say that I'm not worried about SCO. Think about it like this. If Linux becomes "illegal" it will be illegal just like all the warez and pr0n on kazaa. And God knows that nobody makes or downloads those.

    In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change. As long as people want to work on Linux, they will. The Internet and the minds of its members are not property of SCO. So too bad for them.

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    1. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by mcbridematt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And of course, who says that it won't continue to still be legal outside the U.S....

      If SCO was to launch world wide lawsuits in the unlikely case that it wins, it would be decimated by the time it finishes.

      Oh my.. what did they do to our precious Caldera?

    2. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 5, Insightful
      In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change.

      I agree that making Linux "illegal" would not stop people from using it. It would put an end to: comercial software, many supported and semi-supported porting efforts, corporate desktops, embedded devices, hosting companies offering Linux, etc.

      I'd say a lot can change.

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    3. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by phatsharpie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, if Linux becomes illegal, and is in the same league as warez, mp3s, and pr0n on Kazaa, it would bode very ill for the future of Linux. Where Linux has been making tremendous headway is in the corporate server space. If it becomes illegal, it would no longer be deployed in this niche. In other words, the only market segment that Linux is gaining legitimacy.

      Sure, this is Slashdot and many people run Linux here, but the vast majority of people in the real world do not run Linux, and there is still a fair ways to go before people do, and if the OS becomes illegal in the mean time, the game is pretty much over.

      -B

    4. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by svanstrom · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change. As long as people want to work on Linux, they will. The Internet and the minds of its members are not property of SCO. So too bad for them.


      The "movement" will slow down, become more "underground", and some of the people will aim their work at other OSes rather than have to deal with a potentially nightmare(ish) legal process.

      The ones already making a lot of money out of the use of linux (routers, basestations, pvrs etc) will pay for a license, and then it's business as usual.

      A few people will start working on something that is open, free and capable of replacing Linux; the process will be slow, and initially there will be a lot of politics stoping any real work from getting done.

      At a time when M$ has started losing ground simply based on "momentum" a serious problem with Linux will be a HUGE problem for the free/open source-community; and the only company that will truly benefit from it is M$.

      Open source as an option for businesses/governments could be set back anywhere from 3-10 years.

      Things CAN change, things CAN get a lot worse than it is today...
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    5. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Rumagent · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find it highly unlikely that Linux will ever become warez. Should SCO claims carry any merrit, the code in question would be removed instantly - which is exactly what SCO doesn't want. They want to be able to milk every linux user from now until hell freezes over.

      It isn't going to happen of course. Linux is nothing without it's community, and who would contribute anything to SCO?

    6. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It would still only be illegal inside USA if it came to that, so I don't the rest of the world would notice much change.

      Patent and copyright recognition are the big demands the US and WTO make of countries that want to join the globalization oligarchy. I think it fairly likely that a change in the legal status of Linux in the US would have effects throughout the world.

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    7. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by bit01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Get real. SCO did not write almost all the code in Linux, it does not own almost all the code in Linux, it cannot control almost all the code in Linux. Whatever files are found that are SCO's, if any, will be replaced virtually instantly and it will be business as usual.

      To say Linux will "become illegal" is childish and silly. Just as likely, illegal software will be found in M$Windows and M$ will have to stop shipping. Fat chance.

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      It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work.
      It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.

      Reform IP law and stop the M$/RIAA abuse.

    8. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 5, Insightful

      """
      A few people will start working on something that is open, free and capable of replacing Linux"?

      Start? Excuse me - *BSD anyone?
      """

      There's a more obvious answer - just rewrite the bits that are IP violating. Believe it or not there are loads of linux hackers who could probably rewrite the contentious bits in a matter of days.
      When that happens, Linux suddenly becomes legal again. You can't taint new linux with the (alleged) faults of old linux. Then again, I beleive the SCO suit has no teeth anyway.

      I think Cringely is just going for the attention, and we've given it too him. Look at the prediction "it will either get bigger or smaller". What kind of prediction is that?
      Here's one:
      Akozakie - this coming year you will either drink more or less caffeinated drinks than this past year.

      What are the chances that prediction is correct?

      Here's another one:
      This coming year at least one bear will shit in the woods.

      Cringely, attention seeking media whore, who'd a thunk it.

      YAW

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    9. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are many good points made in this thread, however the one that you all seem to be missing is that the collective agreement of all the sane people here is that SCO's allegations are completely baseless and will fade away as soon as the stock takes a hit because of it. The illegality of linux would be a major blow to the OSS movement and while it would recover it would take time. Linux is not, however, illegal and we all know it. SCO are simply not going to win here.

    10. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by gantrep · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm, wha? The issue is not the legality of an entire operating system but rather localized sections of code in that operating system. In the worst case scenario, if it's found that this code is honest-to-god infringing, responsible community members will rewrite the areas that need to be rewritten, not that it will go underground and die or some such tripe.

    11. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by bit01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you go with the SCO claim, they claim ownership of a whole hoard of header files and other key source files.

      Software is soft. Nothing is so key that it cannot be replaced. Linux is the unix standard now (there are now more linux users than all other unix users put together) and at worst some standards may need to change. That might not even be a bad thing.

      Besides, SCO is saying that they own all derivatives of UNIX.

      Code ownership is viral? That's a new one on me!

      Linux is a clone, not a derivative, of the original Unix. This has been well documented. Since [almost] all the Linux code was not written by SCO for them to claim anything at all about this code is spurious. They might have some patent claims but those can be worked around.

      Remember, you can sue anybody for anything, but winning is another matter entirely. As has been previously discussed SCO is probably just running interference for M$.

      It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work. It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.

      So what's the solution?

      In the near term shorten copyright and patent terms, actually enforce the innovation condition on patents and force the patent office to deal with the fact that is impossible for a small government office to rationally evaluate all human knowledge.

      In the medium term have much more sophisticated ideas and laws about what it means to own intellectual property. I cringe at how simplistic current law is on ownership of IP. Amongst many other problems it has no recognition of the intangible inputs that go into IP (eg. a stable, supportive society), no recognition of the identical effort but differing rewards small and large organisations get for writing and selling IP (by many orders of magnitude eg. $70M to Arnie for a movie, $10K to another actor for identical effort and almost identical result on a similar movie), no recognition of the economic network effect (it has value and should be taxed), no recognition of partial ownership (IP is not discrete, whatever lawers might think) and no recognition that ideas "whose time has come" lead to simultaneous or new but un-innovative invention.

      At a minimum patents should be splittable amongst multiple near simultaneous inventors, there should be a cap on how many copies of a piece of IP can be sold before it returns to the public domain, court cases should not only be win or lose but explicitly proportional (eg. he wrote 70% of the software but she added 30% of value). The list goes on and on. Lawyers and law makers are asleep at the wheel at the moment and somebody needs to give them a kick up the backside.

      In the long term we need new legal forms unrelated to the traditional patents and copyrights to deal with this new, soft "universe" our generation is creating. Remember, software is anything we want it to be. How we structure it will have impacts on future generations we can only guess at but let's structure software and the law surrounding it (also software!) for human beings, not vice versa.

  2. What utter nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Linux has to grow or die"

    Erm, why? Linux isn't a company. If Linux stopped growing, there'd still be thousands of developers and testers working on it. Cringely evidently doesn't understand the whole ethos behind the free software world; his comment is ridiculous.

    1. Re:What utter nonsense by HiThere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's pretty much another "tautology" prediction. Nearly everything has to either grow or die. Homostasis is a quite difficult art to master (and software hasn't even attempted it). OTOH, as Linux is the fastest growing server platform, and a fast growing desktop platform, and a fast growing embedded platform, it's tautologically true in another way, also.

      Note: Free software can die. (Well, go into prolonged hibernation with no appearant awakening time.) All that's needed is for the maintainers to loose interest and not be replaced, while the environment it was used in evolves. Check the Debian site for oprhaned packages to see some software that's just started the long descent.

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  3. Um, what? by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with a prediction like that is that it's largely content-free. Changing organizational structure of Linux, how, exactly? When he says "Linux", does he mean kernel development or the whole OSS community? What, exactly, is wrong, and how (and why) does it need to be changed?

    As fluffy as that prediction is, we can have Andrew Morton take over maintainership of 2.6 from Linus Torvalds this year and Cringeley can claim another success at the end of 2004.

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  4. Linux does not have to grow. by miffo.swe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a myth from people who think like a company. The only thing linux really needs to survive is users who like it or want to change linux into something they like.

    If linux becomes oh so unpopular what is it to say that no one just takes the codebase and make something new and better? I think the cat is out of the bag now and thanks to OSS the applications barrier to entry is officially dead or atleast very small compared to how things looked a couple of years ago.

    Without the applications barrier MS has no real advantage over anything else.

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    1. Re:Linux does not have to grow. by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I hope to see happen is that with backing from Big Blue, Linux continues to gain mainstream acceptance and eventually becomes one of the default choices for corporate use everywhere from the desktop to the mainframe. But that won't happen unless it makes a few more major steps in the propaganda war.

      At least for IBM customers, which constitute a huge segment of the IT industry, Linux is going to be a significant part of their world. IBM has put too much money into their Linux strategy to back off, and there's no technical reason to look for another approach in any case. Linux is already running on lots of mainframes, RS/6000s and Netfinity boxes, and as it becomes capable of seriously replacing AIX, it will do that as well. Linux on the desktop is less certain, but IBM doesn't really play on the desktop (sure, they sell PCs, but it's not a big part of their business and they aren't a big part of the PC business).

      About the only thing that could seriously slow IBM's move toward Linux is for SCO's lawsuit to succeed, and anyone who's been following the case closely knows that there's next to no chance of that.

      Disclaimer: I work for IBM, but I'm not an IBM spokesman. And my part of IBM still thinks Linux is a funny fringe OS.

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  5. The Rising Sun by imbaczek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think he's wrong about Sun. If I'm not mistaken, these guys are going to earn some really big $$$ in China.

  6. Vague vague vague - and probably still wrong by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If all Cringely's predictions are this vague I'm embarrassed for him that he only gets 70% of them near enough to count as a success.

    Besides which, linux has coped fine with SCO. Even if there were any infringing code (which, after all the contradictory, facile BS SCO has been spouting, I somehow doubt) it would be a very easy matter within the current kernel development framework to either rewrite the code or dike it out -- if SCO would say what, exactly, the code was. The problem isn't one of the linux development model, it's a problem with SCO and their blatant disregard for honesty, the truth or any kind of propriety. If there was some (unspecified) "other" development model used, we would still rely on SCO telling us what the infringing code was so that it could be fixed or removed.

    Believe me, if there was a problem with the linux kernel development system that meant the whole thing could be brought down using lawyers, Microsoft would have torn us apart years ago. In terms of unpleasantness (and certainly in terms of competence) SCO has nothing on MS Legal.

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  7. I like Cringely, but... by Ransak · · Score: 4, Insightful
    His predictions are the equiv. of me saying 'I think water will be wet next year.'

    3) Despite new anti-spam laws, we'll still be plagued with unsolicited commercial messages, especially using Internet Messaging protocols.

    Sorry, anyone with an Inbox and a clue could tell you this. Vast amounts of spam come from outside the US boarders, where spam laws in the US mean squat. I think he's right on the money with this one though:

    The more vague the predictions, the more likely they are to not be wrong, you know.

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  8. rubbish by servies · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just as most 'analysts' the predictions he makes are just so damn global they can mean anything or they're extremely obvious...

    just giving the numbers here and my comment:
    1) Ofcourse MS will. That's what they already wanted to do with the Xbox and failed (IMO) and they still are doing this... Geeez what a prediction...

    2) Do I really need to say anything about this... It's pure bullshit...

    3) Geez don't we already know this...

    4) Geez, all these companies already told this to everybody who wanted to hear this... My my what a prediction...

    5) Rubbish...

    6) I predicted this at the start of the SCO case and everybody knew this from the start...

    7) Nonsense...

    8) Can't comment on this because I don't live in the USA.

    9) I expect HP to grow, Sun will stabilize and Dell will indeed start to compete in new markets as they have done every year the last 2 or 3 years...

    10) Can't comment on this one as I don't know the situation.

    11) Geez, ofcourse WiFi will grow... and ofcourse progress and service will be spotty... and ofcourse a new business model won't work...

    12) Can't comment on Wall-Mart as I can't buy there etc and I'm not living in the USA...

    13) Can't comment on this as I don't know anything about Apple.

    14) Geez... how surprising. But the strange thing is: all the candidates will be against outsourcing because it's bad for the number of jobs in the USA... So don't expect to be able to pick the winner on this point...

    15) That's something they already do for the last 4 years... Nothing new here And ofcource Bill Gates won't get the Nobel Peace Prize... Which idiot would expect that...

    Come back in 363 more days and see how I did ;)
    He's just like the gypsy at the local fair... obvious things and then claiming he thought it up...

  9. Ooh, prescient by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What else does he predict? The stock market will either rise or fall? The Republican candidate or the Democrat candidate will win the Presidential election? We'll be damned if we do, and damned if we don't?

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  10. Wal-Mart vs. ITMS by Fortunato_NC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one's talked about it yet, but I find his most interesting comment to be the one about how Wal-Mart's new online music effort will displace the iTunes Music Store as the number one retailer of online music files.

    I disagree with this, for a few reasons. One, they're under tremendous pressure from their conservative customer base (lower-income white America) to adhere to a "moral standard". Have you ever bought a CD from Wal-Mart? They only sell "clean" versions of much of the type of music that would be bought online by the younger Internet demographic. If I was going to buy an electronic version of "Straight Outta Comptom", I sure as hell wouldn't buy it from Wal-Mart's online music store.

    Second, online music is not an area that plays to Wal-Mart's competitive strength. Not many people think of Wal-Mart as a successful "clicks and mortar" e-commerce company. Wal-Mart makes its money by selling cheap consumer goods at rock-bottom prices. So rock-bottom, that their smaller competitiors can't compete, and are forced out of the market. But digital music is a much more level playing field. Apple can work with its label partners to lower its prices to match Wal-Mart's. But honestly, I don't think they have to. The integration with iTunes, the iTunes product on both Windows and OS X, and the huge mindshare that Apple enjoys make for an ability to sell their music at an 11 cent premium over Wal-Mart if they want to.

    Third (and last, I'm getting tired of typing) - can Wal-Mart sustain their price advantage? Or is it like buymusic.com, where the few tracks that were actually available for their advertised 79 cent price were obscure tracks that you wouldn't want, and as some artists complained, weren't legal anyway? Unfortunately for the consumer, I think 99 cents a track is where the industry wants the price for most songs to be.

    I guess that my main point is that I just don't believe Wal-Mart is going to steamroll over the music industry with a business plan of "We do what they do, just a bit cheaper." Too many other companies have already established beachheads, and they're actually innovating. My predicition is that Wal-Mart abandons digital music within 18 months.

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  11. Technogensia and the Fate of Free Software by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux development may indeed change, regardless of SCO. Or, to put it more accurately, "free" software development must change from a pure technocracy if it is to wrest control of the consumer space from Microsoft. Now, I realize (and respect) Linus's lack of concern about market share and other trappings of competition; I use Linux precisely because I like the technology associated with it. I am also a technoscenti, which means that my needs are quite different from those of most people.

    Technical excellence can be attained in conjunction with meeting the needs of mundane users. "Free" software has created its own hierarchy of haves and have nots, based on technical prowess; the lords of free software turn up their noses and snort when confronted with needs of the commoners. Able to exist on a purely philosophical level, the technogensia fail to see that free software has reached the edge of its current potential. Apple, Sun, and Red Hat will take "free" software to the next level, where it accomplishes solid, practical tasks for real people.

    So in a sense, Cringley is correct: free software (which he erroneously lumps under "Linux") will change, or it will be replaced in the greater world by something more attuned to the needs of the commons.

    1. Re:Technogensia and the Fate of Free Software by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Free" software has created its own hierarchy of haves and have nots, based on technical prowess; the lords of free software turn up their noses and snort when confronted with needs of the commoners.

      Poppycock, rubbish, balderdash and all those other silly-sounding patronizing pejoratives.

      Give me an example of free software developers "turning up their noses" at the needs of the commoners. Free software developers work on what they're interested in. Some of them are interested in making things easy and usable for common users (the KDE and GNOME teams, OpenOffice developers, Mozilla developers, hotplug developers, Knopper, etc.) and some of them are interesting in making the underpinnings fast, reliable and secure (kernel developers, tools developers, apache developers, and some subset of all of the people in the first list).

      Okay, so Linus and company aren't focusing their efforts on newbie-friendly GUIs, but why should they? It's not their area of expertise, or interest. Others are doing that. You may be unhappy about the rate of progress but unless you provide someone a reason to care about your opinion, you have no rational reason to think your ill-defined expectations will be met.

      Apple, Sun, and Red Hat will take "free" software to the next level, where it accomplishes solid, practical tasks for real people.

      More crap. Apple's software is far from Free -- at least the part of it that is for "real people". If you want commercial, by all means buy commercial! Sun and Red Hat (and SuSe/Novell, and Mandrake, and...) are just packaging up the same free software that everyone else has. They're not really building user-friendly solutions on top of the Free software so much as riding the same usability wave everyone else is (though they do contribute a lot to the development of Free software -- excepting Sun, of course).

      No, the main thing that Sun, Red Hat, etc. are providing isn't software, it's services. Those services do in fact help make the software "accomplish solid, practical tasks for real people", but it's hardly reasonable to criticize the developers because they want to write software rather than provide services.

      What's next, are you going to criticize your garbage man because he doesn't come in your house and empty all the trash cans? Or clean your house?

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  12. Re:Crack head. by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sun IS dying. Its sales have been declining. Its net losses have been mounting. And so on. It is switching to linux and it remains to be seen how successful that is. Companies like IBM, SuSE and Red Hat have greater market share of the linux market.

    I agree with the prediction regarding Sun Microsystems for a few reasons. First of all, I don't think the CEO of Sun is that great. In fact, I think he isn't very good. He reminds of the CEO of a company I used to work for, Motorola. Both CEOs seriously fall behind the competition and lack any insight. Second, Sun will have a tough time because it is caught between two things: hardware and software. Traditionally, its revenues have been from hardware, with software acting as a cash cow. Right now, it will have a hard time. Does it start selling Intel hardware (in which case it won't be making money off that)? Or does it go with software (which it isn't familiar with)? It looks like it is leaning towards software (with its Java Desktop System (which has little to do wiht java)). It remains to be seen if it can compete with Red Hat and Novell, among others.

    What's the fun in killing people? Costing billions of dollars in damage multiple times a year, even a month, seems like a much better option if I was a terrorist. But I'm not a terrorist, I fear caves.

    Terrorists don't live in caves--at least not most of them. In any case, I haven't read the article but terrorists don't (and won't) use cyber-terrorism because that is not their goal now. Groups like Al-Qaida don't target economic targets right now. All of their targets have been symbolic (warship, embassies, WTC, Pentagon). They may switch to economic targets in the future but we don't know. If they really wanted to cause massive economic hard, they domn't need the internet. They just need to blow the US stock markets. That will cause TRILLIONS of damage! Since financial institutions (like the stock market) are the heart of capitalism, any damage will have massive impact.

    As far as the online music sales thingie is concerned, I don't really have a strong opinion yet. A lot of people are buying songs but I'm not sure if that is a long term thing or a short term fad.

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  13. Poor stuff by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not impressed. Predicting the next 12 months on the basis of "more of the same" is not a skill. The skill lies in understanding the underlying trends and extrapolating these.

    SCO impacting Linux? Has Cringely even looked at the market? SCO's attacks on Linux have simply turned up the volume on the debate, they have not actually changed the fundamentals.

    As far as I can see, the fundamentals of IT are:

    1. Ever cheaper technology, including and especially software technology. Software drops in price just like hardware does, but it's starting to be a significant driver.

    2. Ever worse infestation by parasitical software - trojans, spyware, worms, viruses - and the use of this by spammers. This is no longer a sideshow, it is one of the main drivers.

    3. Global competition to lower costs, especially IT costs. Few firms can avoid competition, one way or another, by companies halfway around the globe.

    It all adds up to a big problem for Microsoft and a significant advantage for free/open software, especially Linux.

    Microsoft has tried to sabotage Linux through a variety of strategies, and each time they have failed. 2004 will see the start of serious competition, or serious defeat.

    I predict that Microsoft will produce a "Windows Classic" package in 2004 that combines a cheap Windows OS and Office, for $49.95, or less. This is about the only way it can compete with offerings like Xandros Desktop, which provide a very smooth and complete package for around this price.

    Price, security, simplicity. C'mon, it's so obvious that it hurts to have to say this.

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  14. How can I believe predictions ... by GreatBallsOfFire · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... from someone who says "Come back in 365 more days and see how I did" meaning come back in one year and be wrong? 2004 is a leap year.

    Seriously, there are a few predictions there that are simply ludicrous, and others are nothing more than simple set up for saying nothing. The linux prediction that everyone here is most interested in is a hollow, say nothing prediction.

    It is best summed up by the last sentence "Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004." Talk about hollow predications. Linux is an active project, so it must do something. At any moment in time, and with every decision, Linux will take a positive or negative direction simply because it is active. Since Cringely's prediction contains both outcomes, he can come back next year and claim success. That is, of course, unless Linux stagnates, which isn't about to happen.

    Shoddy journalism. No more or less. Ignore the article and save time, unless you believe in that sort of thing. If you do, send me all your money and I'll sell you this great bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan ...

  15. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by bobKali · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And they're so vague. "Linux has to grow or die..." Umm, isn't that the way of everything? In a dynamic world (this world) things change. Change usually is either beneficial or detrimental - and this can be oversimplified into "grow or die." Since Linux has been growing since 1991 there's no reason to expect it to stop unless it ceases to be.

    Now what might be impressive would be if he predicted the direction of growth and got that right - but he's not even predicting that.

    I like his regular columns much more than his "predictions"

  16. He got one more right by whitroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cringely wrote:
    "I was wrong in my mysterious prediction of a new electronic way to foment social change. I just never got around to doing it myself (that was the plan), so I'll have to accept that I was wrong."

    I don't see his email, or I'd email him directly...but he *did* get that one right: consider Howard Dean and Meetup.

    mark "did I mention ?"

  17. Misconception about cyberterrorism by Kid+Brother+of+St.+A · · Score: 5, Insightful
    2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way. When it comes to terrorism, all that matters are body counts. We will, however, see dramatic growth in cyber-extortion and plain old theft.
    I certainly hope Cringley is right that there will be no big examples of cyber-terrorism. But there are at least two issues that he is getting wrong in this prediction.

    1. Terrorism is NOT just about body counts, it is about the ability to get a group to accede to your wishes by force or threat of force. Killing people is an effective way to do this but it is not the only way. In a highly wired country like the USA, a single cyberterrorist act that cripples the nation's infrastructure and/or economy is just as effective in producing terror as threatening to crash a plane into a building.

    2. Cyberterrorism need not be separate from other acts of terrorism. A cyber attack could well be a component of a large, complex attack. So even if a large cyberterror attack were improbable, it doesn't rule out small ones that are done as one piece of a much larger attack. (For example, using electronic means to extort or steal money, as Cringley admits is likely, could finance another 9/11 attack.)
  18. A Long-Winded Response by PunkXRock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I usually enjoy Cringley's columns, but this one annoyed me to the point of posting a response to each of his "predictions". For the most part, they're so incredibly vague as to be worthless.

    1) It will happen late in the year, but Microsoft will make a bold run for video game leadership...

    Didn't Microsoft already do this, with the XBox? And let's just say MS decides to -announce- the next console - can we have some predicted specs? No? Then all this prediction says is "Microsoft will announce their next console." Fine, this one actually has a bit of substance, actually puts Cringley in the position of being distinctly right or wrong. Of course, the XBox is now almost 2 years old (launched in Nov of 2001), so it's not unreasonable to assume the announcement of a new console, particularly given how early the XBox itself was announced.

    2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way...

    This seems like fluff to me. Did anyone ever predict "cyber-terrorism"? I know it's not something I'm worried about. If al qaeda (or whoever) stop my email for a week, hey, that's less work for me. It doesn't inspire terror. In fact, little that could be done online has the potential to cause terror, save for the goatse.cx man, and possibly this.

    To paraphrase, "I was right last year, so let me try again this year." Watch, I can do it too, with a high probability of success - "We again won't see the launch of nuclear weapons". And hey, if I'm wrong, you probably won't be able to hold me to it anyway.

    3) Despite new anti-spam laws, we'll still be plagued with unsolicited commercial messages, especially using Internet Messaging protocols.

    Oh my god, what a bold prediction! Surely this Cringley is possessed of a preternatural ability for soothsaying. Spam will still be a problem! Perhaps I can pay this man for tomorrow's lottery numbers, or for a Super Bowl pick. Then it's off to the bookie...

    Sorry, my sarcasm got the best of me. To be fair, he does predict possible new email protocols, but he doesn't address whether they will be accepted, or even considered.

    4) Continuing the security theme, look for lots of software companies to abandon support for old products and platforms.

    Microsoft JUST announced they were dropping Windows 98 support. And companies do this all the time. Is he predicting a rise in this type of decision?

    "Companies will abandon old products to get you to upgrade." Once again I am shocked!

    5) The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has.

    This one has everyone here talking, but what does it really say? Linux will either continue to grow or start to die in 2004. Well, I mean, yeah. Obviously. Linux has BEEN growing for years now, so if it continues to grow, well look, he was right. Oh, and if in 5, 10 years, it's dead? Well, look, he was probably right, it probably started in 2004, or at least it may have. This is a non-prediction. Something will happen, or it won't. All this rules out is Linux stagnating, and who can judge that? What are the odds that every flavor of Linux will stop making major updates, but continue to make minor updates (and thus, not grow, but not die?).

    6) As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...

    SCO will finally crumble under the weight of their legal lies, you say? I'm sure I speak for much of the Slashdot community, and Cringely's largely geek audience in general, when I say "Yes, we know".

    7) 2004 will be a crucial year for streaming media... At first, this doesn't sound like much of a prediction. Then, he says MS will settle, which

  19. That's a little like saying... by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..some time in the next year you're going to have conflict with someone you care about very much. The future of Linux is no longer in doubt, it's past the tipping point and rolling downhill. At this point it would be like trying to stop the wind. Even if my some miracle of purchased justice or legislation it was stalled here, US actions are not going to stop it from spreading in the rest of the world. But I don't think that's going to happen, either. The GPL is actually pretty good and based on US copyright law. Telling people they can't donate their time and code to a community project would raise 1rst amendment issues, not that Bush and his thugs care about that but legally it would be a tough sell. And almost every company is benefiting from OSS in some way by this time, so every day the political landscape is changing, too. I think the proprietary software industry is doing all it can. Attacking any OSS project politically, spinning an aura of fear, discounting to hang on to customers. If there were other legal avenues, they'd be using them already, SCO notwithstanding. But Cringley may be right in one aspect, it is getting near the point when Linux needs to be more unified and this year may be it. Either way it's still the best show in town. All the really fun stuff in IT is happening around Linux and OSS.

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  20. mostly the usual cringely nonsense by fanatic · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has. This will come to a head in 2004 with either the development of a new organizational structure for Linux or the start of its demise. Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004.'

    No elaboration, explanation, discussion of what 'grow or die' means. How trivial.

    As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...This was never more than a stock scam,

    This much at least seems true.

    We'll see more of this ploy in the future.

    This seems unlikely. Once SCO self-destructs and all non-insiders are left hoding shares at 100% loss, this pattern will become evident even to financial analysts (who, with few exceptions, have been amazingly dense sofar). Even Didio and Enderle will be able to see it then, though they'll never have the decency to say so.

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  21. Linux IS organized by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Linux is BETTER organized than closed source shops.

    The whole notion that Linux is somehow disorganized is a subtle knock that says: "oh, it has to be centralized to be organized", in other words, only big companies are capable of organization. Yet, big companies are often just as disorganized as the internet blob that is Linux.

    We often note how corporate will can accomplish great things, but, we also live in a world where we disregard all of the dishonesty and infighting that plagues many IT departments and companies. Even MS is not immune to this - with the rumored infighting between the Office team and the .NET team becoming legend, just as the infighting between the Win9x team and the WinNT team - the latter saying their stuff is better, the former saying they are paying all the bills.

    By contrast, Linux projects are out in the open. You can check the status of any via the web, you can see the differing philosophies of the different camps of different systems easily, you can choose to decide which technology to invest in by a transparent and open decision making process. Of course, you could always look at the source yourself, and you may, but for the most part, the process of fundraising in the open source environment is a lot more transparent and accountable than the same process in a closed source company.

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  22. Its not the first time . . . by ir0b0t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . that a programmer was accused of "stealing" software. As /. readers know, in 1976, Gates attacked those who "stole" BASIC from him and the whole idea of sharing source code. Gates made the following claim in his 2/3/76 open letter to hobbyists: "[By stealing software you] prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free?"

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