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GTA Violence, the Media, and the Gamers

jvm writes "The Video Game Ombudsman and Curmudgeon Gamer currently have posts with opposing views on the recent and oft-criticized NY Post article about the violence in the Grand Theft Auto series of games. The Ombudsman discourages gamers from getting upset over the 'false and irresponsible' writing in the NY Post, equating it with a 'National Enquirer story saying that video games cause AIDS'. In response, this Curmudgeon says that's plain wrong, that gamers should 'stop dodging the issue' of game violence and 'start talking realistically about degrees of harm, freedoms, and responsibility'. So what's a gamer to do? Ignore the obviously clueless mainstream press or start the soul searching? Oh, and Penny Arcade has its own angle on the perils of dealing with the mainstream press, in response to how the noble Child's Play was represented."

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  1. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This reminds me of the time I got moderated down...

  2. Re:BF Skinner was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh come on! Skinner is somewhere in his 40s and still living with his mom!

  3. Off teh spoke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You fail it, cowboy! You must be looking at the censored version.

    Now drop to your knees and gimme a lewinsky!

  4. ** FIRST POST TECHNOLOGY, please read! ** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Say, as a subscriber, you'd be able to know the article IDs before anyone else, right? Now, even if there don't exist reply buttons for the preview articles, wouldn't it be possible to just construct a POST with that article id and be able to FP before anyone else?

  5. Thank you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that is the best laugh I've had all day!

  6. Re:Not for kids... get a grip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You probably meant 'populace' instead of 'populous'. They are two different things.

  7. Re:Not for kids... get a grip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Meth Synthesis W/ephedrine, HI, Red Phosphorus
    by Cousin Singe
    NOTICE: TO ALL CONCERNED Certain text files and messages contained on this site deal with activities and devices which would be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. The webmasters of this site do not advocate the breaking of any law. Our text files and message bases are for informational purposes only. We recommend that you contact your local law enforcement officials before undertaking any project based upon any information obtained from this or any other web site. We do not guarantee that any of the information contained on this system is correct, workable, or factual. We are not responsible for, nor do we assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information on this site.

    All you people who want an easy meth systhesis - They don't exist! You have to know some chemistry. Learn some (yes it takes some discipline) or be doomed to fail.

    So, again, this information is posted for information purposes only. I accept no responsibility for anyone actually using this. If you do you will be subject to state and federal laws and will be subject to fines and/or imprisonment. If you are stupid enough to actually manufacture meth you WILL probably go to prison. This is the 90's.

    So to make meth from ephedrine- Using l- or pseudo ephedrine place 1000 gms of ephedrine, 250gms of red phosphorus, and 1000ml of hydriotic acid in a suitable round bottom flask. Fit the flask with a reflux condenser and reflux the mixture for 48hrs at 120 degrees C. Add a 10% solution of sodium hydroxide until the Ph is 14. You should get an oil layer and a water layer. Separate the oil layer in a separatory funnel and put it a flask with 3 volumes of water. Rig the flask for distillation and distill the oil water mixture until the oil is mostly gone (except for highly colored globs of oil.) In the reciever flask there should be two layers, an upper oil layer and a lower water layer. Separate the oil layer and mix it with 10% hydrochloric acid until the Ph is 7.6. evaporate the water and it will crystallize into methamphetamine hcl.

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    "We have observed that mixtures containing red phosphorus, iodine and either concentrated HCl or glacial acetic acid do convert ephedrine to methamphetamine; however, when the phosphorus is omitted, methamphetamine is not formed. Ephedrine was reacted with red phosphorus and iodine in refluxing water, varying the ratios of red phosphorus and iodine; when red phosphorus and iodine are in excess of ephedrine in a 1:3.8:7.2 molar ratio (ephedrine:red phosphorus:iodine) methamphetamine is formed and the ephedrine is consumed in 8 hours."

    Anyone have any thoughts, experience with the typical E-RP-HA when the usually separate step of creating the hydriotic acid is omitted and the three chemicals are just reacted in refluxing water. It seems like that is what is being described (along with acid substitution).

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    Materials:

    1. 30ml bottle tincture iodine containing 2% iodine, sodium iodide 2.4%, alcohol 47%, rest H20

    2. 5 Sinustop Herbal Decongestant tablets containing 60mg crystaline pseudoephedrine HCl each mixed with some herbal ingrediants. Or 300mg of ephedrine obtained thru some other method.

    3. 5 road flares.

    4. Bottle of drain cleaner containg conc. H2SO4

    5. Bottle white distilled vinegar

    6. Red devil Lye containing sodium hydroxide

    7. Spray can of brake cleaner containing 1,1,1 trichloroethylene or 1,1,1 trichloroethane

    Procedure:

    A. Purifying pseudoephedrine:

    1. Take the 5 decongestant capsules, empty their contents into a small funnel with a coffee filter. Pour 50ml of cold water through the filter, and collect the liquid in a small jar.

    2. Add a 1/4tsp of lye to the collected liquid. You should immediately smell the odor of ephedrine.

    3. Put the resultant solution in another small jar, and add 50ml of brake cle