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Athlon 64 3400+ Reviewed
SpinnerBait writes "Unlike the Athlon 64 FX-51, this new
3400+ rated Processor, has a 64 bit memory interface, with its integrated memory
controller, drops in at several hundred dollars less than an FX-51 and is also
clocked at 2.2GHz. It gives a P4 3.2GHz Canterwood based machine a run for
its money too, as
this review with benchmarks at HotHardware reports. And where is
Prescott? Fortunately for AMD, it's a bit tardy to market and this will give this new Athlon 64 speed bin time to take a firm hold."
The Itanium is too expensive and slow. Ditto Sparc. AMD 64 bit servers running 64bit Java VMs will make for a killer combination.
"We found the heatsink to work quite well. It kept our CPU running in the mid -40C range while gaming at default clock speeds."
If your CPU runs at -40C, you have something very special. I, for one, would be worried about condensation from water becoming ice on contact with the CPU at that temperature!
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Well not that I'm buying one anytime soon, but it's nice to know that once I buy one, I'll get a Linux distro, that is compiled & optimized for a 64bit CPU. So for me only Mathematica will run in the 32bit (slower) mode. But Gimp, mplayer, video editing apps, hell even twm and xclock, will be compiled for 64bit CPUs.
I was wondering how is this going to be sorted out by application vendors on PCs? Are they going to release 64bit and 32bit versions? Is every CD going to contain both? What about 3rd party plugins? I've been asking the same question actually about Apple's G5, but www.apple.com (and I didn't search too carefuly) is bit short on nasty details like this. Is it really worth getting a 64bit machine without planning to use Linux?
Looks pretty good. I still don't think there is a huge demand to have these in desktops as of yet. P4s are still very powerful and still compete with AMDs 64 bit chips. Even the Athlons are enough for most people to play the newest games and all.
I don't think that most people do the really computer intensive tasks that would benefit from 64bit chips plus the lack of truely 64 bit software that will give them this advantage is a hinderance as well.
I think it will be 2005 or maybe even 2006 before 64 bit chips become the standard.
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
Have anyone tried to encode xvid with one of these in 32 and 64 bit, preferebly using Linux? Is there much difference in speed? I'm looking at the 3000+ part as it is cheap but there are zero and none benchmarks to back it up in 64 bit mode.
I expect they meant to use a tilda ('~') instead of a minus ('-'), so as to indicate "about" instead of "negative."
The best a heatsink can ever hope for is to cool to the ambient air temperature, and we won't see anything aproach that until we have superconducting heatsinks. (Imagine a large superconducting mass in the ground with a superconducting cable connecting it to the CPU to draw off heat: power outlets with a pin for cooling, superconducting traces on circuit boards for cooling, and no need for fans.)
"Though Intel doesn't have to really worry about that title. At $164 the Pentium P4C smokes the pants off any AMD processor in its price range. At least, after overclocking it to 3 GHz, which is very doable even with standard cooling."
Will it really be cheaper and faster when you have to buy a new one every 6-12 months because you destroy it?
I've ported the HotSpot VM to AMD64 for Blackdown. It's noticable faster the 32-bit version in allmost all benchmarks. The main reason for the performance gain is that you have more registers in 64-bit mode.