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Black Holes No More -- Introducing the Gravastar

Mark Eymer observes: "From the Space.com article: 'Emil Mottola of the Los Alamos National Laboratory and Pawel Mazur of the University of South Carolina suggest that instead of a star collapsing into a pinpoint of space with virtually infinite gravity, its matter is transformed into a spherical void surrounded by "an extremely durable form of matter never before experienced on Earth."' While these objects may abound in the universe, they also say that our entire universe may reside within a giant gravastar." This new theory attempts to fill holes in the currently accepted concept of the "black hole".

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  1. Re:where is the peer review? by W32.Klez.A · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True, but a lot of people thought Einstein and Newton were crazy too, and they didn't exactly have many peers at first to verify and critique their information, as they were just cast off as silly just as you've done.

    Everyone's gotta take chances, and just because they don't have a long dignified history of work doesn't mean their words are invalid from the get-go.

  2. Re:where is the peer review? by KingJoshi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never did research to investigate the black hole theories, nor will I do research on this. I'll leave that to others. But new ideas tend to be a positive thing, even if they may seem outlandish at first. And what's with this "self-professed scientists" title? It's not as if "credible leaders" in a field haven't been wrong before. I look forward to others looking into this. When Slashdot posts about an article that hasn't been peer-reviewed because it's new, someone complains because it's too new? geesh. I'm sure we have some knowledge members among the Slashdot audience that can tell us more. Maybe Slashdot posting the article brings it to their attention and peer-review will occur sooner. Maybe it's not worth reviewing. We'll see.

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    In times like these, it is helpful to remember that there have always been times like these. - Paul Harvey
  3. The Onion reported a similar thing some years ago. by Kaz+Kylheku · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The ``Whole Universe is One Huge Frickin Atom'' story.

    Someone luckily stashed a PDF of this (Copyright 1999 The Onion).

    There you go.

  4. Re:I am confused by the article by Steve+Franklin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can't conceive of "zillions of states hiding in a black hole" but you can facily throw us the concept of an infinite universe ruled by an infinite mystical entity not of that universe but having a one-to-one correspondence with that universe? I think I'll nominate you for the Miles Hayes Award for explaining the simple in terms of the complex.

    Personally, I suspect that what we're looking at is the conservation of information--the indestructable info-quantum.

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  5. As someone who works on black hole astrophysics by Dr_LHA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me just say that every 4 months or so somebody writes a paper that tries to explain black holes as something other than black holes. Some of these papers are good, and some are not, but the fact remains that there are people out there who just don't like the idea of black holes and try to come up with other explainations.

    Usually these explanations are far more complex physically than a black hole, so until I see a compelling, scientifically verifiably alternative to the theory of black holes I'll apply the principal of Occams Razor. I.e. The simplest answer is most likely the correct one. Theories that are 30 times more complex than black holes but are not measurably different I'll continue to ignore.

  6. Re:where is the peer review? by ElJefe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
    -- Carl Sagan

  7. Re:The "other side of" the same gravistar. by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, since you sound like you know what you're talking about, how does this theory solve the problem that it is purported to, i.e. where does the entropy go? Is the theory that objects with entopy that enter the event space increase the entropy inside the gravastar?

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    Milo