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4GB HD in Under an Inch

werwerf writes "In need of hard disk space but not much physical space? Toshiba is developing a sub inch HD capable of holding from 2 to 4Gb. Seems that future digicams won't need a compact flash anymore!" They expect to be in mass production by the fall. Also, News.com is reporting that Hitachi's 1-inch 4GB drive is in Apple's new iPod mini.

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  1. Re:Reliability? by R_Harrold · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reliability is good in my experience, though power drain is horrible. spinning a platter (moving a physicality through space) uses a lot more power than flashing memory cells.

  2. Re:Reliability? by mr_tommy · · Score: 3, Informative

    As an IBM Microdrive owner, they are brilliant. I have the 1 gig model for a Compaq Ipaq that i have, and its worked very, very well for the best part of a year.

    The only annoyance is their slighly prohibitive cost, but as with all new technology of this kind it is to be expected.

  3. Huh? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
    Seems that future digicams won't need a compact flash anymore

    Eh? [looks over at his digicam with 330MB IBM compactflash microdrive]

    Digicams and PDAs have been using microdrives for years. They're up to 4GB these days I think; 1GB is more common, the older 180 is pretty much NLA and the 330 is almost too.

    Furthermore- you've obviously not understood the point of removable media. Most digicams, even if they support USB 2.0 or Firewire, can't move data very fast; one camera(the Kodak 14n) barely manages 1.5MB/sec despite costing five thousand dollars and generating 14 megapixel files(yes, 14). I can nearly max out my CF card using either a PCMCIA, USB2, or Firewire CF reader, but on-camera transfer usually blows, because the processors are very slow, using embedded solutions for JPEG/RAW image compression; the CPU is more and more just a 'supervisor'. Slow clock speeds = slow transfer speeds. More importantly, i can pop out the CF card, and pop in a new one when I fill it up. If I'm a sports or event photographer, I hand that card to a guy who sprints over to the truck and editors start downloading the images while I shoot onto another card.

    And yes, the kinds of people who would need 4GB in a digicam are precisely the kind of people who need to be able to pop ANOTHER 4gb in. Top of the line Canon EOS 1Ds will generate 11+ megapixel files. They get big, fast. Leaf and Phase One now make 11-20MP digital backs for medium format, as does Kodak and now Fuji. The digital backs generate enormous files, to the point that some are tethered-operation only, or come with a unit that attaches to the bottom of the camera and houses a laptop hard drive.

    Your average consumer, and even many prosumers, have absolutely no use for a 4GB hard drive in their camera, and the power requirements mean camera makers would never go for it. A solid-state card is so much more power efficient than any hard drive, it's not funny.

  4. Re:Digital Camera by sahrss · · Score: 4, Informative

    DV (Digital Video), the standard consumer and prosumer digital video storage, uses up 13 gigs per hour.

    Reference, Google for further proof.

    :)

  5. Re:Reliability? by ortholattice · · Score: 3, Informative
    After all, someone went to the effort to make a RAID 0 array using floppy disks!

    At first I did a double take and figured it would be some awkward, jury-rigged proof-of-concept with ugly wires all over the place, but the obvious googling came up with this: http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm with great pictures. It's beautifully executed on OS X and very pretty to look at. Amazing!