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Your Favorite Net.Art?

worm eater asks: "About four years ago I became interested in trying to discover art sites on the Internet. Not sites that deal with art, but sites that are art. After many hours of searching, I stumbled on a few that I enjoyed: jodi.org (although this one currently appears to just have a cool little downloadable screen-distorting program for Mac OS 9) so you might want to try, a few of these groundbreaking and sites. [Note: Beware of <BLINK&gt tags!] Recently, my interest in this genre of art has been reignited. What is your favorite piece of net.art?"

75 comments

  1. May be just me... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I just moved back to the dorm, so this may be just me, but that one site looks like it's Slashdotted or something and I can't load it.
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    Now that's what I call art! :)

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  2. Why did you post jodi.org by dartanion · · Score: 1

    I got this window with all these pop-ups and little windows moving around the screen. Screen distorting program for MacOS9 my ass. i bet it installed a bit of spyware while I was there as well.

    Why does no one check what get submitted here? are there not people that get paid to do so? Is this why I have ads in my face all the time?

    1. Re:Why did you post jodi.org by shaitand · · Score: 1

      didn't see any pop-up ad's and I'm fairly sure no spyware was installed. Thanks to mozilla I just saw a black website with absolutely no content whatsoever.

    2. Re:Why did you post jodi.org by MikeXpop · · Score: 1
      Turned off Javascript and pop up blocker on and looked again. Found this:

      function OSS(){ if((parseInt(navigator.appVersion) < 4 ))
      {window.location.href="download/index.html"} else {
      if(navigator.platform == "MacPPC") {window.location.href="os.html"} else {
      if(navigator.platform == "Mac68k") {window.location.href="os.html"} else {
      if (navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer") {window.location.href="i/index.html"}else {
      if(navigator.platform == "Win32") {window.location.href="ss.html"}
      else { if(navigator.platform == "Win16") {window.location.href="ss.html"}
      else {window.location.href="vv.html"}
      }}}}} }
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    3. Re:Why did you post jodi.org by damiam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If websites can install spyware without your consent, your browser choice is seriously fucked up.

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    4. Re:Why did you post jodi.org by GabeK · · Score: 1

      Don't waste your time. Every one of these sites suck. How is any of this art? I mean, come on, a 404 error in a big system font with a blinking square on the bottom...creative, perhaps, art - absolutely not. And the other sites - whoa...excessive backgrounds with low-res images in them, a way too huge image-map that is damn near unreadable? This is not cool, not art, not anything but crappy web design. Unfortunately WhosWe isn't around anymore, but if you can dig them up on archive.org, you'd see a site that is ART.

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  3. Deviant Art by hookedup · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out Deviant Art

    Huge art community, some of the best work I've ever seen is on this site.

    1. Re:Deviant Art by anielsud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Deviant Art is more of a gallery. I think what the poster was getting at was sites that are art, not that contain art.

      On a related note, Hell.com used to be one of the best 'Web as Art' sites out there, and it led into a whole rat's nest of other sites, all as snazzy as it. Unfortunately, it seems to have gone away.

      It's interesting to look at sites like these -- I always feel like I've wandered into an issue of wired magazine, only with more movement and blink tags. Kind of post-modernist, avant garde, art deco 'busy-ness' brought to a new medium. Sometimes it hurts my eyes.

    2. Re:Deviant Art by Nasarius · · Score: 1

      Nice link. Sent it to my girlfriend in case she's interested in submitting her art :)

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  4. What in the world? by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Most of those links aren't art. It is a bunch of neon crap.

    Just damn.

    1. Re:What in the world? by n0wak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not art. That's just a urinal.
      That's not art. That's just a black square.
      That's not art. That's just a soup can.
      That's not art. That's just urine.

      ad nauseam

    2. Re:What in the world? by damiam · · Score: 1

      Your point? Art, insofar as it can be defined, is "the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects". While it's certainly subjective, I don't consider a urinal, a soup can, or a page of blinking gibberish to be aesthetic, and therefore, they are not art.

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    3. Re:What in the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love geek thinking! The whole world's black-and-white. Nothing is vague, nothing is sort-of, everything is-or-isn't...life without ambuiguity!

      Except that it doesn't work for art, because art depends on perception. While I am impressed that a Slashdot poster actually used a reference to support his/her (but usually his) pet claim, I'm not confident that the Merriam Webster dictionary is a really definitive reference on this topic. Ask an artist sometime what they think art is, or better yet ask a lot of them -- aclaimed artists, classical artists, rising artists, controversial artists, casual artists. Then try to make sense of the answers. You might end up having to decide that a really thorough inclusive definition of art is probably along the lines of: art is anything that someone says it is.

      The discussion then moves on to more important questions like, what does the art mean, what is its value, how does it make you think, how does its meaning vary with the person looking at it, what is its context, what is its history...and dozens of other ways of thinking about it that depends on much more than some random guy's opinion on how pretty it is.

      Pretty pictures may be art, but art is much more than pretty pictures.

      You don't have to like most art, and indeed most people may not consider most art to be very good -- good art is often regarded as art that is especially insightful, or creative, or aesthetic, or powerful, etc... -- but that isn't sufficient to condemn other works as something other than art.

  5. Interesting site :P by Radu+Lycan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The 2nd link appears to be basically a web, with numerous links if you click on text inside the various hubs.

    Dunno if this counts as art, but it is as bizarre as those links: http://www.turnofftheinternet.com

    I admit when I first saw the article, I had thought it was asking about favorite good art sites, was thinking about mentioning my favorite artist's site.

    Although somehow I doubt the general reader would be interested in looking at a scaly (aka "herp") anthromorphic art site, which does have some..er..adult content, despite the art being very good quality imo. ;)

    Not even sure if it's allowed to post links to such a site, but if you are interested just do a google search for "Kaa Starhunter" (artist plugs Mozilla btw :p )

    1. Re:Interesting site :P by Radu+Lycan · · Score: 1

      Ok, I know replying to one's one post is usually not good, but I felt it was worth it to give a warning about the turnofftheinternet url.

      It requires popups to be enabled, and remember to use whatever the keyboard combination to close your browser or program window is, otherwise you can use ctrl-alt-delete to end the browser instance (it creates a full-screen window with no browser interface or window buttons visible after clicking on the button)

  6. http://whereismygnome.com/ by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

    how about whereismygnome? I'm not sure what the deal with it is, but they've run banner ads at yahoo and other places. If you saw the movie "Amelie", the girl (Amelie) stole her father's gnome and had friends take pictures of it all over the world. That's what it reminded me of, at least.

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    1. Re:http://whereismygnome.com/ by DrEasy · · Score: 1

      It's a teaser for a Travelocity campaign I believe.

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    2. Re:http://whereismygnome.com/ by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      I love their legal disclamer. Unedited portions follow.

      I got sued once because my taxidermied chicken scared a neighbor's cat and I'm not getting sued again. So this time I talked to the lawyer before I did anything. And he's the same guy who helped me beat the scared cat/chicken thing so he knows what he's talking about.

    3. Re:http://whereismygnome.com/ by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      my newspaper had an article about it this morning. it is indeed a travelocity ad..

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  7. Should be titled... by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    This should be title "Ask Slashdot: Where can I buy LSD?". Seriously, what is the asker on? I read the post at least three times and I still do not fully grasp it.

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  8. You can't talk about internet art.. by Rudy+Rodarte · · Score: 3, Informative

    With out one of the best art sites in all of the internet. This site is for both your eyes, ears and your heart. The ending is perfect.

  9. Pffftt... those are wimpy. by sabNetwork · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want some really hardcore code art, check out dextro and re-move.
    You'll spend hours just trying to figure out how the hell everything works. Both of these are part of turux.

    Really cool stuff.

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    1. Re:Pffftt... those are wimpy. by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget i.am/bald for those of us who like fantastic artsy websites without the use of Flash (though there is some Java toward the end.)

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  10. Porn by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All joking aside, If we are talking Internet art (sites/computer/etc)

    Couple sites I think have artistic value.

    1. 3d modeling should count, and I really like skinshack the 3dmodels people design for counterstrike. It is art after all, but its the downloads not the site. I liked weapon-hacks, the 3d work was amazing, but with CS sites going down, its not up anymore.

    2. As a site that looks like art, Go-l.com Looks kinda like apple.com, but the site is pure eye-candy, which is art in my eyes. (And the specs for the machines are eye-candy as well, geek think...)

  11. Some of my favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Accurately described as "totally insane web experiences":

    1x60.com - for the wonderfully insane images that make strong political statements (find and click on the "Enter" text on each page to advance to the next).

    Ming The Merciless - In no way attempts to offend one group - nobody is spared. And if they are, it's accidental I'm sure.

    For interactive Java-based art, check out some of the examples for Proce55ing (browse the exhibitions, examples and learning sections). Some of it's really cool.

    I'm not sure I'd call it "art", but Weebl is manditory flash animation if you've not seen it. Superfancy.com also used to be pretty good, but I just looked and it's not there anymore (all the old content is gone).

    There are more I've seen that I can't remember, I'm sure - but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  12. Other sites, flash, very nice. by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Humm, also some sites that might be considered art, but its really webmasters or design firms, so they are filled with artists. (Most are flash based.)

    http://www.lo9ic.com/v4/
    http://www.2advanced.com/ (some really awesome flash on this site)
    http://www.plotdev.com
    http://www.freefordesign.com
    http://www.nakedworlddoc.com (Just visually neat)
    http://www.itcatmedia.com

    Good collection of links at http://www.phong.com/tutorials/archive.php

  13. Craig Mullins by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    Try www.goodbrush.com. Chances are, you've seen his work. Off the top of my head, I know he's done matte paintings for Forrest Gump and Final Fantasy.

    Ah but does the site qualify as art itself? Well one would have to fudge the definition a bit. His opening page is one of his paintings. That changes every so often. Very interesting to see. No 'welcome to Craig Mullins site', no 'click here to enter!', just a painting.

    Not sure if this is quite what the submitter was after, but I'm sure people will find the site interesting.

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    1. Re:Craig Mullins by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd say this image would satisfy this community....

      HERE

      It's from the goodbrush site.. And it has to do with your favorite Cube spaceship.

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  14. That's not art by Cecil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do all of these so-called 'Net.Art' sites look like 'modern art', which is to say, they look like they were done by a 12 year old newbie making a personal webpage for the first time?

    This is crap. Modern art is also crap (in some cases literally). If I wanted to see random ASCII art or bad photoshop jobs I'd go look at SomethingAwful or Fark. Not Art. It's not. I promise. Even less than the teen love ballads that Britney sings are music.

    You want to see Net.Art? Check out some of the personal weblogs and websites out there. Maybe they're not the most useful or navigable things in the world, but that's not what art is supposed to be is it? There is often a lot of effort put into making them look pretty/slick/professional.

    1. Re:That's not art by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      HELLO! My name is BIFF. How are you? My dog is nice. My dog likes you to. Do u like my website with white or black borders????

      TNX alot.

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    2. Re:That's not art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is crap. Modern art is also crap...

      I can't believe you got an insightful with this generalization. Just because you don't like net.art, doesn't mean other people don't find value in it.

      Contemporary art (I don't think you really mean "modern") is very conceptual. Most people have moved beyond pretty pictures.

      You want to see Net.Art? Check out some of the personal weblogs... out there.

      Blogs are just journals, no matter how "pretty/slick/professional" they may be. Sure, writing can be art, but the poster was asking about visual or multimedia art.

  15. Incompatible Art by bottlerocket · · Score: 1

    After many hours of searching, I stumbled on a few that I enjoyed: jodi.org

    That piece of "Net.Art" doesn't work in Mozilla/Firebird. Insightful performance piece or lazy coding? It's "art", you decide!

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  16. Check these out by lavaface · · Score: 2, Informative
    A few sites I've enjoyed:

    • Artport-The Whitney Museum's collection of Internet art.
    • Hotwired's RGB Gallery- Been a while since I've been there; it seems a couple of the links are down but it's a good place to start.
    • Potatoland- Really neat stuff!! Be sure to check out the p-soup Java applet.
    1. Re:Check these out by n0wak · · Score: 1

      Potatoland is ancient, but still great. Still love that Shredder.

  17. I forgot to mention by lavaface · · Score: 1
    The Boards of Canada website is an excellent promotion of their album and intriguing eye-candy as well. Be sure to go to track 4 (hi scores.)

    The kaleidoscopic effect on the photos led me to find this interactive kaledoscope.

    Enjoy!

  18. What? by schnits0r · · Score: 0, Redundant

    No one has said Goatse was art yet? Not even the trolls? Things are really changing.

    1. Re:What? by dacarr · · Score: 1

      Well, I could say it, but I'd be lying....

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  19. try these by megabulk3000 · · Score: 1
  20. Fuzzy stuff! by dacarr · · Score: 1

    OK, fine, I'm a furry fan, so sue me.

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  21. Alterfin by acesuares · · Score: 1
    After Jodi, www.alterfin.com of course!

    And, very long ago, I stumbled upon nsdap but didn't quite know what to think of it. Liked Lennongrad, though.

    Maybe checkout net-art.org, it claims to be a portal to net-art...

  22. simple but elegant art sites are some of the best by tagman2 · · Score: 1
    I tend to like artistic sites that not only showcase art, but also are artistic themselves. Such sites don't have to be massive multimedia flashing glitziod presentations. Sometimes a simple and elegant theme is the best.

    Another plus in my book is an art site where the artist talks about their art. A few comments from the artist can give you perspective on their creation. As an example, check out this art site I came across recently by Monica Noll. Some of the most artistic parts of that site are her explinations of her drawings.

  23. snarg.net by (0d0 · · Score: 1

    For those of you using Mozilla/Firebird, turn off the pop-up blocker and you'll see what jodi.org is about. One of the more interesting ones I was pointed to about four years ago is snarg.net. It's changed since then, but there is still a trippy flash navigation/music interface. It really takes some exploration to figure it out. And if you can't find what I'm talking about, find the # and click on it. The site used to open up a bunch of browser windows and look like it was maliciously destroying your computer (animations which showed windows dialogs about deleting the filesystem and such). Quite a trip!

    As for what this post is all about, judging from jodi.org, it's asking for sites that use browser features to "perform" performance art on your desktop to make browsing an entertaining experience.

  24. CSS and web design by whatever3003 · · Score: 1

    http://www.csszengarden.com/ http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=027%2F027%2Ec ss http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=048%2F048%2Ec ss http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=053%2F053%2Ec ss Some beautiful design using 100% web standard markup/code. Support web standards! ~ LSH

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    1. Re:CSS and web design by nightgeometry · · Score: 1
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  25. CSS and design by whatever3003 · · Score: 1
    ack! sorry forgot the preview

    CSS Zen Garden
    Gothica
    HoriZental
    Self Growth

    Some beautiful design using 100% web standard markup/code. Support web standards!

    ~ LSH

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  26. www.culture.gouv.fr by Kobal · · Score: 1

    The french ministry of culture has been commissioning works of "multimedia" art for years. Several are available on their website.
    This one is a little old (1999), but was the first significant one.
    And here is a collection of government sponsored screensavers.

  27. I like sodaplay.com by PeterCook · · Score: 1

    Moving line art you can animate or look at the designs from previous visitors. sodaplay.com

  28. The first art site on the net by modir · · Score: 1

    Since 1994 etoy provides modern culture. The have some visionary ideas about art and the net.

  29. most unbelieveable website by way2trivial · · Score: 1
    www.eye4u.com



    requires shockwave

    blows my mind every time I see it..
    nothing like it anywhere else I've ever seen.

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  30. This is off-topic... by alan_dershowitz · · Score: 1

    But where are the "art sites" alluded to in the main submission? I want high-resolution (as high as possible) image files of famous/classic paintings. Are there sites like this? I can't find them,except sporadically.

    The paintings obviously aren't copyright controlled, and I understand that simple photographs can't be copyrighted, since they don't add anything creatively. Are museums restricting access? Where are the high resolution photographs?

    1. Re:This is off-topic... by tepples · · Score: 1

      I want high-resolution (as high as possible) image files of famous/classic paintings.

      Try Artchive.

      The paintings obviously aren't copyright controlled

      You'd be surprised. Some paintings made in Europe in the 19th century are still copyrighted in Europe because not only does Europe have a copyright term of life plus 70 years, but some nations also tack on extra extensions for pre-WWI and pre-WWII works. So unless you block European IPs, you have to follow life-plus-85.

  31. start with these by irritant-1 · · Score: 1

    Shift -a delight.
    Airport
    Rhizome.org is worthwhile. Requires a membership fee but has free access on Fridays.
    Hell
    Ljudmila
    mayhem
    zkm
    absurd
    erational
    Critical Arts Ensemble doesn't fit the traditional requirements of net.art but I believe it's equally valid.
    sito
    LFS

  32. Rhizome by vitaflo · · Score: 1

    You might want to try Rhizome, which is a non-profit org for the net.art community. It's not just artists, but also curators, educators, etc. There's lots of good new media artwork on their site, beyond the usual links meantioned in the parent (most of which were created well before Slashdot even existed). Rhizome is basically what is happening today in the net.art community. And any of you budding net artists should also check out the many call for entries they post regularly. Many opportunities for funding for your project.

  33. And the answer is.... by MarkusQ · · Score: 2, Funny

    You'll spend hours just trying to figure out how the hell everything works.

    Uh, they use flash? Why should that take hours to figure out?

    -- MarkusQ

  34. Illegal Art by scubacuda · · Score: 1
    One fun thing to do is to google for "illegal art."

    You get lots and lots of cool results.

  35. two more... by LoganEkz · · Score: 1

    Vision Afar is a simply stunning site with some great artwork. Space/fantasy theme for the most part, but some brilliant work by Gary Tonge.

    Another one of my favorites is Savinoff Design Studios which features some great lightwave 3d art.

  36. Hmm... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    This sorta counts, interactive, and probably made for little kids, but @ 2am under the influence of anything or not its unexplicabley hilarious. Dunno if this counts, but its funny as hell.

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  37. TanksWorld by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool site: www.tanksworld.com

  38. JWZ! by nandhp · · Score: 0

    I think http://www.jwz.org/ is qualified. Heck, I have a cron job to download it every three hours (You can just View-Source jwz.org to find out)

  39. Mm what about nn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only real Net.Artwork I can think of is a person (or collective) :

    nn == Netochka Nezvanova

    http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/03/01/net oc hka/print.html
    http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists -Archives/nettim e-bold-0203/msg00078.html
    http://www.m9ndfukc.com /

  40. Mod Parent Up by n0wak · · Score: 1

    Parent said it better than I could have.

    Relying on a dictionary to define "art" is missing the point, as said definition has been and will be debated for ages. It'd be nice if things were that simple, though.

  41. Re:Incompatible Art- you are incorrect, sir. by lunachik · · Score: 1

    jodi.org works fine in Mozilla, you just have popup windows completely banned. This is why I don't recommend banning all pop-up windows indiscriminantly -- many non-advertising sites still use them as a part of their basic design.

  42. Take a look at Soulbath by Kent+Brewster · · Score: 1

    Soulbath has been around for three or four years now; lots of good grayscale fun here.

  43. Slashdot+Postmodernism=Not a Good Idea by darkfnord23 · · Score: 1
    The people who read slashdot seem to have a bit of a distaste for this sort of thing unfortunately. I've always thought it was a fascinating world out there, but I don't hear much about it. There's always meta.am, which used to be o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o.org or something like that. superbad is another classic.

    Matt

  44. Don't feed the troll! Internet is just for porn! by fantomas · · Score: 1

    Why do all of these so-called 'Net.Art' sites look like 'modern art'...Modern art is also crap


    Move along folks, don't feed the troll. Poster Cecil thinks all "Modern Art" is crap so I don't think he's going to give us a useful posting. Maybe we should ask politicians who believe that the internet only exists for child porn and financial fraud to comment on aspects of open source software?




    (BTW, does parent posting take "Modern Art" to mean everything created from the beginning of 20th Century, or something different, hmmm, I am sure the term "Modern Art was coined early 1900s, somebody want to help me with this ref?).

  45. My Favorites by hyperizer · · Score: 1
    I think the best net.art is interactive. I also like sites that explore a connection with the real world, like Telegarden below.
  46. Re:Incompatible Art- you are incorrect, sir. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    Every legitimate pop-up I've run into (ie zoom-ins for catalogs, image galleries, word definition pop-ups) has worked without error on both Moz & Opera with their normal pop-up blocking turned on.

  47. L'arte! by MichaelGCD · · Score: 1

    The internet's Mona Lisa!
    GOATSE!!

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  48. Re:Incompatible Art- you are incorrect, sir. by lunachik · · Score: 1

    Those are for pops that launch as a result of links that you click. Popups that launch automatically when you visit a site will be blocked, even if they are a "ligitimate" part of the website's design (and not an ad). An example of this is my banking site uses such an automatic popup to broadcast notices. There are other sites that use this for purposes other than ads of course--you just don't know it because you never see them.

  49. Requiem for a Dream by lamebot · · Score: 1

    It is not meant exclusively as an art site, but its one of the most suggestive I've seen: http://www.requiemforadream.com (makes even less sense if you haven't seen the film)

  50. SomethingLeet by bluewee · · Score: 1

    Well www.somethingleet.com of course.

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