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OQO Ultra-Portable Impresses At CES

carpoolio writes "One of the most-talked about gadgets at CES last week was the OQO ultra personal computer (uPC). TechTV gave it a Best Mobile Device award, and deservedly so. It's a fully functional PC that fits in your pocket. Running on a 1 GHz Transmeta Crusoe processor, the uPC packs a 20 GB hard drive, 256 MB of RAM, and has a color screen that slides up to reveal the keyboard. The price? Sub-$2,000. Photos available on OQO's Web site. Similar devices have come and gone in recent years, but this one really looks nice." OQO seems to be slowly migrating from vaporware to a release date - a CNET News article notes that "OQO said Thursday that it will begin selling the device in the second half of 2004."

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  1. Hmm... by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We must have skipped vPC (very personal computer) and hPC (hyper personal computer). I'd still be interested in a sPC (semi-personal computer). Just don't show me the aPC (anti-personal computer).

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    1. Re:Hmm... by dustmote · · Score: 5, Funny

      Better than an anti-personnel computer. "Destroy all humans! Destroy all humans!" :)

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    2. Re:Hmm... by elmegil · · Score: 3, Funny
      nononono.

      Ex-Term-In-Ate!!!

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  2. Is that an OQO in your pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, yes, it is. Nevermind.

  3. That's weird by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that an RS-232 port I see on the side? If it is, why? Is there something wrong with just providing a few USB ports?

    1. Re:That's weird by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      RS-232 is an extremely useful interface. If I had to choose a port to jettison from PC laptops, the parallel port would be my first preference. I don't understand why this huge and useless connector is still included on most PC laptops.

    2. Re:That's weird by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
      > Is that an RS-232 port I see on the side? If it is, why? Is there something wrong with just providing a few USB ports?

      Data acquisition and sensing is one of the Really Cool Applications for an ultraportable. It's a hell of a lot easier for Joe Labgeek to h4x0r something together that talks RS-232 than USB. I'm glad there's at least one "legacy" port.

    3. Re:That's weird by BigDish · · Score: 4, Informative

      No it's not an RS232 port. It's a propritary port. The unit comes with a cable that's about 3 feet long that breaks it out into other ports such as Ethernet, USB, VGA (and some others, I don't remember the details)
      This thing is AWSOME! I saw it at CES and I'm seriously thinking of getting one when they come out. It is truely amazing. The only thing I'm not sure of is the screen seemed prone to getting damaged. They also claimed they had it running off the same battery at CES all day and it was still running (so several hour battery life)
      Not sure if the pictures on this site show it (it's slashdotted) as none of the other pictures I've seen show this, but the screen slides up about 1/2 way to reveal a little QWERTY keyboard.

  4. aPC... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't that called Windows XP?

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  5. Upgrade. by Humba · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is sooo much better than my OQO 1.0
    OQO 1.0



    The only real change I noticed from the original spec was a 20Gb HD, vs 10Gb in the first.

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  6. Re:Not a Good Server... by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 5, Funny

    the server must be on an OQO :-)

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  7. uPC at PocketThings by romper · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is another site which shows the uPC -- with pics.

    Soon to be Slashdotted too, I'm sure. :)

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  8. Vaporware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's vaporware. Oqo has announced previous versions of this product several times, none have ever made it to market. I'd love to have one of them, and many people have been waiting for it, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. I'll believe it when I see it.

    It made /. in 2002 for best vaporware:
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/ 12/22/022821 7&mode=thread&tid=126

    Slashdot should not be promoting hype from any vendor that has a history like OQO until it's actually released.

  9. I checked this out a couple days ago... by BFedRec · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It does look sleek and sexy, but not the most practical. It fills in where a power user needs a PDA, and it seems to have the function built in to become a desktop. But the problem is that it's filling a pretty small niche of people who want more than a PDA but less than a laptop. It's not practical to use this as you primary work travel PC as the keyboard is a thumb-board and isn't good for quick entry. It is an ultimate PDA... but you've got to be a pretty high-roller to spend two grand on your glorified PDA.
    Sadly it's probably a niche market item. I hope they find a way to make those innovations really work with a practical product, but I fear they'll be innovating in the field but not financially leading it. I'd love to try one out but don't see it as a practical addition to my tech tool belt.

    CharlesP

    1. Re:I checked this out a couple days ago... by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess I am a niche buyer. But this is exactly what I'm looking for. Laptops are too big, PDAs don't have enough power (and also can't run x86 code).

      I'd take one and two docking stations (one for home and one for work), but it has to run Linux.

  10. So tired of waiting. by Hexydes · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The said this thing would be out in late 2002, early 2003, late 2003, early 2004, and now late 2004. Who cares? They said the price was going to be $800. Then $1,000. Now $2,000. Who cares?

    Neat idea, but the company really sucks at delivering. At least update your webpage. They are only 3 months away from not updating it in 2 years. That's just pathetic. They need to invest in some more resources and a PR team.

  11. Re:The website is slashdotted... by tealwarrior · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can still get pictures of it from google image search.

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  12. Uses? by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Really, what are the uses of these kinds of tiny devices? Heck, for PDAs as well. They're nice toys but they lack power, easy of use and most importantly, a good use. I've only encountered a FEW situations that made me think "Yes, a PDA would be a good tool for this job." and that mostly involves truck drivers and route planners. For the rest I can't seem to find a use for these things. And I'm supposed to seel em for crying out loud.

    As I see it, TINY computers ( PDAs and these toys alike ) are like solutions waiting for a problem.

    1. Re:Uses? by KingJoshi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think these are cool, but not worth 10 times the price of a PDA. And PDAs are useful (but different people have different needs).

      I use mine for the basics (keep track of appointments, tasks, contacts). I also have wireless so I get email. I have my shopping list on there. I track the calories of what I eat. I keep track of my expeneses. I have a dictionary I occasionally use. I have a street map that also has points of interest, which has been useful. I have a graphing calculator. I can voice record or jot down any ideas I have. I also play mp3s on my PDA (the 256MB card still holds 3 hours of songs even with all the other software on it). And also, it can play games when I'm waiting. I've also used it to read ebooks. There are other things a PDA can do. Different people have different needs or some are creative and find other uses. It's a personal digital assistant. It assists me. It may have no use for you, but you have to be pretty blind or stupid to not see how it can be useful for solving many other people's problems. It may not be the only or even best solution. But for me, it solves many and it's easier to carry then a lot of other things combined.

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    2. Re:Uses? by CarrionBird · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I use mine a good bit. Basic text entry and word processing, emails, light web browsing, and the traditional PDA functions.

      Plus it doubles as an mp3 player and voice recorder. Basiclly I use it when and where I don't want to lug around all the stuff that goes with my laptop. I can fit the unit and keyboard in a large coat pocket, along with my cell if I need net access. Look at the Dana, basically a palm os based laptop. For some people, that would do everything they need a laptop for. For many others, it would be woefully inadequate.

      It all really depends on what you would do in a mobile setting and if you can tolerate the smaller screens.

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  13. In other news, Hell freezes over... by avgjoe62 · · Score: 3, Funny

    One of these actually made it to Real Life? And Doom3 is in pre-order? My God, can DukeNuk'm Forever be far behind?

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  14. Competing device from Antelope Technologies by crush · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Was also unveiled. It is based around an iPod-like module which uses the same Toshiba harddrive as the iPod and a Transmeta chip.

  15. not vaporware by urbaneassault · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I saw this device Thursday and drooled the rest of the day. While the rest of the show seemed to be a contest in who could put the most flatscreens in their exhibit, OQO drew a huge croud around their tiny booth in the gargantuan Microsoft display. Having held it and played with it, i can assure you that it's not vaporware. And if it is indeed vaporware, then they've managed to pull the wool over the eyes of many exhibitors who all got to play with this very chic device. While form factor is great, the best feature, i think, is the power dongle, which extends the device well past a simple "not a laptop but not a pda" category that is growing. It has vga, rj45, usb, and firewire all of the same dongle, with usb and audio on the device itself....oh yeah, and it does just fine playing back dvd's...Quite the gadget.

  16. No they didn't by Groo+Wanderer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I played with one at CES, and I must say you are dead wrong here. Try building a mini-ITX box with the size that this thing has, not to mention the sheer slickness of the device. Oh yeah, there is that 5 hour battery life also.

    Look at the size of the thing:
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13578
    I spent a lot of time talking to the OQO guys, this is done right. I have not played with the cappuccino, so I can't comment there, but OQO is slick as shit.

    -Charlie

  17. The skinny by tooz · · Score: 5, Informative
    OK, first of all, it might be later than expected, but it's not vapor. I've held it in my hands and played with it; it's a pretty damned sweet piece of hardware.

    Second of all, it runs linux just fine. The designers have tested it with Red Hat 9 with no problems. They haven't tested BSD, but don't see any reason why that wouldn't work as well; there's some discussion of testing Darwin on it.

    Third, I just asked one of the designers about ports. The reponse:
    "We've got USB, FW (4 pin), Audio (stereo with "extra" feature lines), 2 docking ports, external 802.11 antenna port and Power. USB is 1.1, FW is 400Mb. On the docking connector, we've got: VGA, LVDS (for digital interface to LCD), Serial PCI (for external PCI chassis/devices), same FW, 2 USB lines, Audio, Power. On the docking cable, we've got a USB -> Ethernet converter with RJ-45 plug, male and female VGA connectors (for flexibility of plugging into devices without additional cables), and so on." There is no serial port on the device.

    Fourth, the theory behind the device is to have a box that will convert from a PDA to a desktop machine and back again. You use it in the office, undock it, use it on the train, and redock it to use it again once you get home. No syncing required. It's not really meant just be a turbo-charged PDA.