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Windows Services For Unix Now Free Of Charge

pole writes "Version 3.5 of Services for Unix will be free. Previously, it was $99. This article at Information Week has the details. It contains an NFS client and server in addition to POSIX libraries and utilities including pthreads. Aside from the NFS utilities, how does the environment compare to Cygwin?" An anonymous reader adds links to coverage at News.com and at geek.com, writing "The reviews for these tools have been highly favorable. It looks like the next volley has been fired in the struggle between Windows and Linux."

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  1. bass ackwards by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's really "unix services" for "Windows". They can't even get the name right - what else did they screw up at the forge of Mordor?

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    1. Re:bass ackwards by mwheeler01 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd be careful what you say...this may look nifty and like Microsoft is capitulating but perhaps this is one of the rings of power that Gates will give to the kings of men to control them. Because as we know, Linux users above all else, desire power...

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  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  3. Windows finally gets NFS support? by SeanTobin · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well heck, I guess to make this fair we are going to have to impliment SMB support.

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  4. Good business decision by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is probably a good thing for Microsoft: make it easier to run Unix (aka Posix) apps on their systems. Odds are, they walked into too many meetings like this:

    Salesman: So, that's how much switching to Microsoft Server will cost.

    IT Guy: Yeah, but then there's the development costs of porting over our Unix and Linux stuff over.

    Salesman: Who needs it! We've got IIS!

    IT Guy: Yeah, but we developed our own apps or used some open source stuff -

    Salesman: Agggghhh! We speak not its name!

    IT Guy: Um, right. Anyway, now we'd have to redevelop those for Windows. How much does that Unix thing cost on Microsoft?


    So now the answer is "free". I'm not saying I like Windows servers over Unix-style boxen - but this was a good business choice for MS.

    Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
  5. Great Acronym! SFU! by slacy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, what a great acronym, and I'm quite surprised that they seem to be actually using it externall!

    Anyone who disagrees with microsoft can just SFU! I mean, install SFU from microsoft.com.

    (Just in case somebody missed it, SFU = Shut the F**k Up.)

  6. Where will this end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    What next? Will they start giving away web browsers for free?

  7. Windows needs more apps by mattkime · · Score: 4, Funny

    This great news for those windows users out there. It will be surely provide much needed apps for this upstart operating system. Now, whenever someone says, "Windows? But what can I do with it?" you can point out that they can run their favorite unix apps.

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  8. "Salesman" and "IT Guy" in same conversation? by jlusk4 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Impossible.

    1. Re:"Salesman" and "IT Guy" in same conversation? by debaere · · Score: 3, Funny

      Salesman and IT guy in the same conversation isn't shocking. On the other hand, salesman and IT guy actually communicating with each other is shocking.

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  9. Yeah, MS marketing director is clever indeed... by plj · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..as he mentions that "very few of our customers are going to have a pure Unix or pure Windows environment".

    Previously, I used to think that at least half of the MS customers or so would have a pure Unix environment. Thanks for enlightening me, Dennis!

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  10. Hmm... by cperciva · · Score: 4, Funny

    POSIX environment... C compiler... you know, it should be possible to get my depenguinator to work here.

    I'm not sure about being able to write the filesystem image to disk, Windows might not allow that.

  11. Re:I have had unix tools for windows for a long ti by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 5, Funny
    one word, cwywin

    Ah, yes. The Welsh-centric fork of Cygwin.

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  12. Samba won't be popular until... by Jahat · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is ported to Windows. (BTW... Got this from some other post on Slashdot a long time ago)

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    1. Re:Samba won't be popular until... by sik0fewl · · Score: 3, Funny

      . . . come to think of it, Notepad SHOULD be replaced

      It already has been. It's called regedit. You can find it in the root of your Windows directory.

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  13. Re:Microsoft motives? by diersing · · Score: 2, Funny
    MS releases free Windows-Unix tool.

    SCO loses all money trying to protect their IP and is forced to sell all corporate assets.

    MS buys UNIX patents for pennies on the peso and equipped with UNIX & Windows declares "Operation Freedom" vs Novell and their SuSE/Ximian alliance.

    World domination is it's own motivation.

  14. Every single day... by SamBaughman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Salesman: I broke my cup holder.

    IT Guy: Reboot and see if it gets better.

    Sometimes, it's the clueless and the stubborn. Nobody wins in that situation, except Microsoft.

  15. Re:No multithreading by johnnyb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thunk. "Ahhh! Maybe not!"

  16. Re:Great Acronym! SFU! by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've already heard it as STFU...

    Anyway, it's still better than the Critical Update Notification Tool.

  17. Re:MS' Hopes by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 2, Funny

    ``Instead, they'll just SFU - it costs nothing, and it lets me run Apache/PHP/MySql, or whatever.''

    You're kidding, right? These have all been ported to win32.

    By the way, does anyone else have the feeling that SFU would more appropriately be called SFW? (which could be expanded to Services For Windows, Software Finally Working, ...).

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  18. Re:Microsoft motives? by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you want them to do?

    Die, dissipate, dissolve, terminate, and ceace function.

  19. Re:Microsoft motives? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    What do you want them to do?

    I've got a suggestion, but this is a family forum.

    Chris Mattern

  20. Re:so lets make this simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah! I see the next quarter's marketing materials already! Microsoft Windows. A minute to learn... a lifetime to master

  21. vi? by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it have vi? Screw you, Emacs users. Light, powerful, efficient and easy to use, vi is clearly the editor that intelligent programmers use. Written in a much more powerful programming language than the obviously dying Emacs, vi is the editor of editors. I mean, c'mon, imagine Emacs running under CYGWIN on a Win box! That's like running three kludges at one time!

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    1. Re:vi? by transient · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know, you could just run Emacs natively on Windows like the rest of us... ;-)

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    2. Re:vi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      or just run vi natively like the smarter of us. :wq

      is much easier than:
      ctrl-x,ctrl-f,ctrl-x,ctrl-c

  22. MS Conversation by glenstar · · Score: 4, Funny
    SFU PM: Wow! We had 50,000 downloads of SFU the first day.

    BillG: Great! It looks like we have another winner on our hands. People sure do want that Unix stuff. Oh, wait...

    SFU PM: erm...

    BillG: You're fired.

  23. IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR MS!! by drxenos · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the first line in the Overview of the product on MS' website: "Before you continue, it is important to understand that the Beta release of any product will not display the stability of a shipped Microsoft product." I'm not sure how to take that....

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  24. Re:Samba is there but always playing catch up by Patik · · Score: 3, Funny
    Say a windows shop decides to introduce a *n(i|u)x fileserver.
    I bet it would've taken a lot less time for you to write (and for us to read) "Unix/Linux".
  25. Re:Microsoft motives? by wljones · · Score: 3, Funny

    First, for home users of MS-Windows anything, if you are happy with it, enjoy. Now for the nerds, this latest Microsoft offer sounds like combining the reliability of Microsoft software with the user friendly attributes of Unix software. Such a deal!

  26. Re:Microsoft motives? by joemc79 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah.. I am.. I just looked it up. 1 Peso = 9 Pennies. My bad.

  27. Re:so lets make this simple by Syberghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    My experience of SFU was that it was much more reliable than Hummingbird's implementation of NFS client.

    Almost anything is more reliable than Hummingbird's NFS.

    Viewing the file in hex and yelling it out across the room to somebody else who types it back in is more reliable than Hummingbird's NFS.

  28. Re:Free? by dvicci · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Except for the $150 worth of Windows you have to buy to run it, of course."

    I'd rephrase that to something more along the lines of "Except for the $150 you have to pay for Windows." I'm hard pressed to say it's actually worth $150... but that may just be me.

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  29. Re:Microsoft motives? by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, come on, "crisco", "speculum", and "pissed-off iguana" are hardly words that could offend even the most sensible of ears.

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  30. Re:so lets make this simple by styrotech · · Score: 3, Funny

    Viewing the file in hex and yelling it out across the room to somebody else who types it back in is more reliable than Hummingbird's NFS.

    Great! We've been looking for a replacement, does the speed compare favourably too?

  31. ed? by Royster · · Score: 2, Funny

    But, does it come with ed, the standard text editor?

    ed, man! !man ed?

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  32. Re:so lets make this simple by Sexy+Bern · · Score: 2, Funny
    Solaris 2.6 out of the box had some fairly serious NFS flaws.

    Who said it was out-of-the box?

    How do you define no glitches?

    #define NOGLITCHES
    :)

    No glitches? Erm, everything appeared to work without problems. How would you define it?

  33. Re:so lets make this simple by sosume · · Score: 2, Funny

    A clear vision, this Microsoft has!

    - Buy Interix
    - Give product away for free
    - ????
    - Profit!!

  34. Re:so lets make this simple by c1ay · · Score: 2, Funny

    And the best thing about it is that it uses SCO code licensed by Microsoft and now they're giving it away for free. This is a call to arms. All /.'ers now need to write Darl McBride and try to convince him that he needs to sue Microsoft too for giving away their code for free and decreasing the value of Unix. It should be pretty easy since he's such a nitwit anyhow. This could be great.

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