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USA To Return To Moon By 2015, Then Mars

securitas writes "This afternoon George Bush announced space exploration plans for the USA to return to the Moon by 2015, the design and construction of a new space vehicle fleet by 2014 (called the Crew Exploration Vehicle) to replace the aging space shuttles which will be retired in 2010, and the construction of a permanent Moon base, followed by manned missions to Mars. The initiative begins with a $1 billion increase to NASA's budget and $12 billion in new space exploration money over next five years. However Congress is concerned about how to pay for the new space policy initiative in the face of a $500 billion national budget deficit. AP via Yahoo has a Moon/Mars/space policy FAQ, and there's more at NASA and the New York Times among others."

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  1. Re:Timeline hole by hirebrand · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The shuttle fleet would be phased out by early 2011, once NASA and its Russian partners completed assembly of the space station. The United States would then rely on Russian, Japanese and European rockets to get to and from the station for the next three years, until the CEV was operational." Washington Post

  2. Re:How will we fund it? Spend it elsewhere! by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another way to look at it is that this additional $1 Billion could come from pulling out of Iraq ONE week early. That's right the cost of operations in Iraq not including one time costs like moving the troops to and from the country is aprox $4 Billion per month. I am all for what we accomplished in overthrowing one of the most evil men of the last two generations but we should find a way to quickly return the country to self rule and withdraw our troops before it becomes a significant drag on the economy and the loss of troops becomes a long term weakener of military moral.

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  3. Those are state problems by KalvinB · · Score: 4, Informative

    not federal problems.

    Every town in every city has problems like yours that just take "a little bit."

    It's your city/state's job to bring in enough money to fund local problems like yours. The Federal government can't. If they help one city in such a way they have to help every city.

    You're barking up the wrong money tree.

    "It's a new budget-saving pattern for the Bay Area's fourth-largest city. Starting this month, whenever three firefighters can't work because of illness, the city will close one of four fire stations to save $400,000 in overtime costs and prevent firefighter layoffs."

    So by closing one firestation because the people who work there are wasting money they save $400,000 they can use to fix other problems.

    There's your money for the library.

    Fix your city's budget problems before you start pretending it's the federal government's job.

    You think Uncle Sam is going to bail out CA? What makes your problems more serious?

    You're in the Bay Area. I'll willing to bet there's another library that's open 7 days a week. If not, get your stuff done when it is open. What's more important to you? The money that can be put towards more important things or convienence?

    It's certainly not worth $200,000 to staff a library an extra day if nobody is visiting. That's generally why they close one day. It also allows for fewer full time staff (which allows for higher wages) while still giving them a day off every week to keep them sane and happy.

    Ben

  4. Re:and bush says... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uranus Experiment, Part 2.

    Good ol' Space.com has an article on it so you don't have to worry about the spouse looking up your recent visits...

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  5. Re:How will we fund it? Spend it elsewhere! by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 5, Informative
    What has the ISS given us?

    The answer for that would take many hours to list. The ISS has generated a ton of new technology developments. I work for a NASA contractor with expertise in vision systems, from using 2D cameras for tracking and pose estimation for assembly to now 3D scanners for inspection, collision avoidance, and a variety of other tasks. We have just begun to spin this technology off into terrestrial applications and they are pouring in, from automated mining vehicles to geomaterial classification and automated plant growth monitoring, to name a few. And that's just one small company from one small component of the ISS. A study we'd previously done showed that every $1 invested in developing the technology has spun off into $40 for the economy.

  6. NASA good programs by wass · · Score: 5, Informative
    Second lunacy: only add $1B to NASA's budget. They will have to gut every other program to fund this return to the moon, and they appear to be eager to do so.

    Unfortunately, this seems to be what's happening.

    My girlfriend works for the Space Telescope Science Institute (ie, the group that controls the Hubble Space Telescope, as well as planning for the James Webb Space Telescope, etc).

    The 1 billion increase in NASA's overall budget is good thing. But this increase is totally dwarfed by 12 billion funding re-allocation that also accompanies the budget increase. And they're really worried that alot of that funding will be taken away from the hard science missions (Hubble, Chandra, etc).

    This is what alot of people, even here on /., don't realize when they bash NASA. NASA doesn't only fund the space shuttle and ISS and Mars rovers. There's a whole slew of astrophysical observational experiments, both earthbound and in orbit, that are contributing hugely to scientific research.

    This funding shift implies NASA will be shifting it's focus, away from science and towards engineering. While the budget increase is good for the space travel programs and probably ISS, it's not so good for the pure science and observational programs.

    Just my two cents.

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