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USA To Return To Moon By 2015, Then Mars

securitas writes "This afternoon George Bush announced space exploration plans for the USA to return to the Moon by 2015, the design and construction of a new space vehicle fleet by 2014 (called the Crew Exploration Vehicle) to replace the aging space shuttles which will be retired in 2010, and the construction of a permanent Moon base, followed by manned missions to Mars. The initiative begins with a $1 billion increase to NASA's budget and $12 billion in new space exploration money over next five years. However Congress is concerned about how to pay for the new space policy initiative in the face of a $500 billion national budget deficit. AP via Yahoo has a Moon/Mars/space policy FAQ, and there's more at NASA and the New York Times among others."

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  2. HELP! I AM HOLDING MY ERECT PENIS IN MY HAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  4. first bush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  6. Many /.'ers wanted to see a new space program... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Until Bush announced it.

  7. It's funny by Hangin10 · · Score: 0, Troll

    how Congress will aprove huge sums of money
    the second anyone has Weapons of Mass Destruction,
    but when it comes to creation or anything interesting, they don't care...

    We could take that $87 bil. and build 10 perfectly
    good NCC 1701s, except with M2P2 propulsion
    instead of warp...

  8. Bush by Whatanut · · Score: 0, Troll

    The master of financial strategery

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  9. Re:How will we fund it? Spend it elsewhere! by Branc0 · · Score: 0, Troll
    Does anyone honestly think that putting that bit of money elsewhere would solve whatever domestic problems you want fixed?

    Yes... but will it help NASA to estabelish a base on the Moon or the budget will still be too short?

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  10. Re:George Bush == Tax and Spend RINO by volkris · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...except that his handling of economic matters has arguably already fit a significant portion of the bill...

  11. Re:Bush's Space Smokescreen by FooGoo · · Score: 1, Troll

    If the gov isn't taking your money for one thing they'll take it for another.

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  12. Re:Lunacy and how to fix it by Tackhead · · Score: -1, Troll
    > Second lunacy: only add $1B to NASA's budget. They will have to gut every other program to fund this return to the moon, and they appear to be eager to do so.

    Actually, I think they need only abandon the white-elephant ISS ("Give Russian ICBM engineers somewhere to work other than Iraq") and the white-elephant Shuttle ("It can repair the Hubble... at twice the cost of launching a new one! OK, so at least it can go to ISS... at ten times the cost of a Soyuz! It can make real expensive fireworks... but it kills 7 people at a time when it self-destructs, unlike Mir!")

    Given the number of Slashdotters (myself included) calling for the scrapping of the wasteful ISS and Shuttle projects and the diversion of the remaining funds into real R&D or science, I think the plan is a Good Thing.

    Make me Emperor, and I'd double or triple NASA's budget by cutting $30-50B by goring someone else's oxen. Maybe some crack whores will die of AIDS instead of consuming $30000/year worth of medications paid for by the taxpayer. Maybe some people on welfare will have to get real fucking jobs instead of shoveling taxpayer dollars to crack and dope dealers. Maybe the crack and dope dealers will have to get real fucking jobs because I'd also cut the DEA's budget by 10% per year and divert 4% of the DEA to HomeSec, 4% to local police, 1% to NASA, and 1% back to the taxpayer.

    Maybe I'd rather see us build spaceships and see what sorts of technology spins off, rather than fund the NEA so that liberal arts grads can dip crucifixes into jars of piss, or scream "cunt" a few dozen times.

    But I'm not the Emperor. If the Emperor says that $1B is all we can spare in new funding for basic research, that's still $1B more for basic research than was allocated before, and that's $1B less that goes to programmes I don't support. Fine by me.

  13. There's no point to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
    There's no point to manned space exploration.

    All of the science and all of the exploring that can be done by manned (peopled) mission can be done more easily and cheaply by unmanned missions. Witness all of the exploration we've done on Mars, Jupiter, Jupiter's moons, near the Heliopause, etc.

    The only extra bonus to manned missions is national prestige and the added thrill of having a person to empathize with. (And of course it's fun for the actual explorer and the mission support people.) But can't we get thrills and employ the ground-support scientists some other (read: cheaper and more productive) way?

  14. Idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Blah blah blah random unfounded assertions.

    I'm sorry, were you trying to get modded up?

  15. Re:How will we fund it? Spend it elsewhere! by DoraLives · · Score: 0, Troll
    So the question is, is it worth it?

    AbsoFUCKINGlutely!

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  16. Re: get life to survive in the harshest by wampus · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just like the science that was left over from Rome? The years following weren't called the dark ages for nothing.

  17. One word: by smoondog · · Score: 0, Troll

    Who is going to pay for all of this?

    I'm not sure. But I know one thing for sure. Halliburton's going to get it.

    -Sean

  18. Re:Bzzzzzt, but thank you for playing. by jasonditz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Can we really justify the theft of billions of dollars in the name of maybe defending against some improbable cosmological what-if?

  19. Re:China, Russia and Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    a Russian might have walked on the moon in 1969 with an American


    Thank god that didn't happen! If it did, we'd be living in the United Communist States of Russia. Just look at what happened to China!

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  21. Re:Budget by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1, Troll
    One billion won't do dink for going to Mars. But it will serve nicely as a BOONDOGGLE to funnel cash at Halliburton - who have been cozied-up with NASA for Martian drilling...

    "Yeah, a billion will do. To start. Then we can figure out this special Mars-drill thing, or whatever..."

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    Who's gonna' be drilled? Just you and me, again...

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  22. Re:and bush says... by Uma+Thurman · · Score: 1, Troll

    It was the Republicans such as your ignorant self that liked to say "Wag the Dog". Pig fucker.

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