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Scientists Create Supersolid From Helium

jabberjaw writes "Nature is reporting that Pennsylvania State University researchers Eun-Seong Kim and Moses Chan have created a 'supersolid' from helium-4. Although a crystalline solid, the supersolid can flow much like a liquid. This is due to the fact that the empty compartments in the crystal move coherently, thus waves can progress through the lattice. The supersolid state can be compared to the superfluid state. Perhaps a condensed matter physicist can dumb the article down for layfolk such as myself?"

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  1. Re:Helium is a great chemical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Tom's hardware had an article several years ago that pointed to a group of Finns who used Liquid Helium to cool PIII cpus. Unfortunately while it's a fine, supercold well flowing liquid, it also doesn't take up all that much heat from what it's in contact with, and trying to seal liquid helium is well nigh impossible. It manages to leak quickly out gaps that wouldn't let any other substance through.

  2. Re:This physicist says: by sidney · · Score: 5, Informative
    If it flows, it's not solid

    Sure it could be. Here's the abstract from Eunsong Kim's talk about it two days ago at Penn State University, courtesy of our friend Google:

    When liquid 4He is cooled below 2.176 K, it undergoes a phase transition--Bose-Einstein condensation--and becomes a superfluid with zero viscosity. Once in such a state, it can flow without dissipation even through pores of atomic dimensions. Although it is intuitive to associate superflow only with the liquid phase, it has been proposed theoretically that superflow can also occur in the solid phase of 4He. Owing to quantum mechanical fluctuations, delocalized vacancies and defects are expected to be present in crystalline solid 4He, even in the limit of zero temperature. These zero-point vacancies can in principle allow the appearance of superfluidity in the solid. However, in spite of many attempts, such a 'supersolid' phase has yet to be observed in bulk solid 4He. Here we report torsional oscillator measurements on solid helium confined in a porous medium, a configuration that is likely to be more heavily populated with vacancies than bulk helium. We find an abrupt drop in the rotational inertia of the confined solid below a certain critical temperature. The most likely interpretation of the inertia drop is entry into the supersolid phase. If confirmed, our results show that all three states of matter--gas, liquid and solid--can undergo Bose-Einstein condensation.

  3. Re:Is this really new? by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Informative

    I heard about something like this a few years back, as I understood it then the thing is that at low enough temperatures atoms break down into a "soup" of protons, neutrons and electrons all behaving like a liquid.

    I think what you're describing is a Bose-Einstein condensate, which is something entirely different.

  4. MANY more states of matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not the first new state of matter announced this week.

    The New York Times reported a "color gass condensate" when gold ions were bombarded with relativistic deuterons. In this condition, nucleons and quarks blur into a jello of gluons.

    There are MANY more states of matter than solid, liquid, and gas. There's plasma, 2-dimensional fluids, 1-dimensional crystals, ambiplasma of partcies and antiparticles, photon crystals, and lots of others.

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    1. Re:MANY more states of matter by KjetilK · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hm, there are no publications by anybody by that name in cond-mat on Arxiv.org and no hits for color gas(s) condensate. I don't know much of the research in that field, but I had the impression from friends in the quark-gluon field that they had enough to work on before understanding condensates... I'd like some links before I take anything in the parent post at face value...

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  5. Re:This physicist says: by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Informative

    Glass flows, and most people consider it a solid :)

  6. Re:This physicist says: by Graff · · Score: 5, Informative
    Check youre windows, you will find they are larger at the bottom as it drips.

    That's a fallacy. The flow rate of ordinary plate glass is so slow that it would take billions of years before there would be a measurable change in thickness. Here are some articles on the subject.
  7. Re:Is this really new? by lommer · · Score: 4, Informative

    No actually, this does have something to do with Bose-Einstein Condensation. Now, IANATheoretical Physicist, but as I understand it, at the quantum level these results may be a manifestation of b-e condenstation in the solid phase (to date, b-e condensation has only been observed in the liquid and gas phases). Now, the original poster was a little bit out to lunch with respect to his description of what a b-e condensate is, do I still highly reccomend reading the wikipedia article. There's still a lot of work to be done before we really figure out exactly what's going on in this experiment, but it looks to have some pretty cool implications at the moment.

  8. Re:Quantums vs. Pressure by camrdale · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's more like quantum mechanics takes over at a combination of low temperature AND pressure. It should really read "At very low temperatures and at 1 atmosphere, the behaviour ..."

    This effect is similar to the changing of the freezing/boiling points of water at different altitudes (and therefore pressures).

  9. Re:Supersolids by camrdale · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you have trouble thinking of moving holes or vacancies, think of one of those puzzles that is all jumbled and has one square missing. You have to rearrange the puzzle by moving peices into that vacancy, which makes the vacancy move around.

  10. Here's the simple answer by bstoneaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Any solid will flow. There are various mechanisms for this, but people usually refer to diffusion. Given sufficient time and temperature you can see any solid flow, and it doesn't have to melt into a liquid state for this to happen. The big thing here is that this supersolid is not liquid and that's because it retains a crystalline structure. Unlike a liquid, supersolid He has a structure that is ordered.

  11. Re:Hmmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well no actually. Higher viscosity oils are better for engines. Imagine two metal surfaces pushing into each other. You want something that isn't immediately dissipated.

  12. Re:This physicist says: by Graff · · Score: 4, Informative
    ancient cathedral's in the middle ages show they have thicker glass on the bottom side of all of the window's

    You obviously did not read any of the 3 articles I linked to.

    Plate glass used to be made by dipping a tube into molten glass (1000 degrees Fahrenheit or so), gathering up a blob, blowing that blob into a bubble, poking a hole in the bubble, and spinning the tube so that the bubble's hole opens up. Done correctly it makes a flat circle of glass with the end of the tube in the center. This glass is relatively even in thickness but it is still thicker in the middle then at the sides.

    They let the glass cool and then cut it into squares with one side closer to the middle. This side is thicker than the rest of the piece and was usually placed toward the bottom of the window because it was reasoned that the heaviest part and strongest part should be at the base. It was not until the Float Glass process was invented in 1959 that truly flat glass was available. Up until then there would almost always be some parts of plate glass that were thicker or wavy, giving rise to the flowing glass myth.
  13. Re:Supersolids by An+Anonymous+Hero · · Score: 4, Informative
    the Heisenberg uncertainty Principle (...) accounts for the fact that even at absolute zero, there are some fluctuations of particles, called quantum fluctuations wich do never freeze out. When a superfluid appears this means that the atoms in it move all together.

    Heisenberg implies that they (still) move, but has nothing to do with the fact they move all together. This latter fact is because helium atoms can all fall into the "same" lowest-energy state, because they are bosons and so do not obey the Pauli exclusion principle.

  14. Re:Hmm Type-o's and cowards reply...Now the facts! by MO-411 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Nazi: A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler.

    Helmholtz was born on 8/31/1821 in Potsdam, Germany. He ended his breathing on 9/8/1894 in Berlin, Germany.

    Hence, he could not have been a Nazi...

    PS, some info Helmholtz .

  15. Re:Is this really new? by Dua · · Score: 2, Informative

    But helium-3 *can* behave like a Bose-Einstein condensate, as the helium nuclei can loosely bind together, forming bosons from the two fermions. Which is why we get superfluid helium-3 as well. Of course, that doesn't happen til about 100mK (or similar), so you're unlikely to find some superfluid helium 3 in your kitchen.

  16. Re:Quantums vs. Pressure by skifreak87 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The state of matter in the traditional sense of solid, liquid, gas (I am not up to date on all the knew states) has to do with how far apart atoms are and how fast they are moving. In a gas, atoms are the furthest apart and move the most, liquid - closer together and slower, and solid - closest and slowest. This is why liquids have no shape - they take the shape of whatever container they are in. Pressure pushes atoms closer together making it possible for Helium to "freeze" (become a solid) even though it can not under normal atmospheric pressure. -- Brad

  17. Re:a liquid solid by Jan-Pascal · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can see a nice small movie of actual 3He crystal growth at Leiden University.

  18. Re:Slightly OT by jsebrech · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think what the parent was meaning was that it would just "slip off" the surface of the turbine, and pass it without moving it any. A superfluid loses no energy through friction, so it can't transfer energy through friction either.

  19. Re:This physicist says: by rgamage · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone who has worked with stained glass knows that glass definitely does flow. You normally score a line with the cutter, then break it. If you take a coffee break, or go home for the day and come back and try to break it, most likeley it will not break, because the scored line has flowed back together. It comes down to a matter of degree. I remember that some colors were more sensitive than others, and I don't doubt that modern plate glass flows at an incredibly slow rate, but it probably still flows.

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  20. Here goes with an explanation... by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 4, Informative
    This effect is a bit like superconductivity, and that is a bit easier to explain that, so I'll start with that...

    Suppose you have a metal. This has positive nucleii, bound electrons which screen most of the nuclear charge, and conduction band electrons which can move thorughout the lattice, but also help to screen the nuclear charge. The whole thing is electrically neutral.

    Suppose then you have some cloud of negative charge. This charge will repel the local electrons, and will attract the local nucleii. The nuclear lattice will bend a bit towards the center of the charge cloud, generating a local region of increased positive charge density that is screened out by the cloud of charge, and the other electrons.

    Now, suppose this charge cloud moves. You have the same attractions and repulsions, but the nucleii have more mass per unit charge than the electrons in the cloud, so they will take a bit of time to react. The induced positive charge region will then lag behind the negative cloud, and will tend to drag it back. If you had a second negative cloud following some way behind the first one, it might be attracted towards this positive region.

    If you had two conduction band electrons with long deBroglie wavelengths, with the same sorts of velocities and at the right distance apart, then you can get this sort of action. Over a limited range, you can get electrons to apparently attract each other, via electron-phonon iteraction.

    This pairing up of electrons is pretty weak. If this was the only thing holding them together then you would not get superconductivity in ordinary materials above a few millikelvin. However, one they start organizing like that, then they can all tend towards a lowest energy state, where they are all moving like a single enormous particle, with a wavelength that is so much larger than most of the usual things that scatter electrons. A more electrons join this single state, an energy gap opens up betweeen the electrons that are in the state, and the ones that aren't, and it becomes more energetically tempting for other electrons to go with the flow. This energy gap stabilizes the superelectron state, and lets superconductivity happen at kelvin rather than millikelvin.

    We have lots of particles giving off heat, but it isn't solidification. We don't have electrons standing shoulder to shoulder like soldiers. One superelectron's wave will significantly overlap hundreds or thousands of other superelectrons. If they had rigid orientations, then a supercurrent could not flow down a wire that got thinner, any more than your cheese with holes in it could flow down a funnel. Also, the electron-phonon coupling only binds if the electrons move. So, forget marching soldiers, unless you have soldiers that can see what is happening a hundred ranks ahead, and automatically calculate a path that will give zero jostling with their neighbours. It is not really a state that exist in the macroscopic world, but you can sort of guess what it might be like: everyone been cool and mellow and getting along with their neighbour, until one guy borrows the lawnmower without asking, or drinks the last beer in the fridge, and then it all suddenly collapses.

    Okay, now if I get the article, you can get the same sort of thing with holes in a superfluid. The helium atoms can form a similar cooperating superfluid. The forces that balance to keep the atoms flowing in a coordianted fashion are different, but the principle is the same. If the particules are moving, and enough of their fields overlap, then there will be a lowest energy state, and one enough of them have discovered it, and particles can find it faster than random thermal fluctions can chuck them out, then everhting moves smoothly.

    Helium atoms as lots of little round fuzzy things. Normally they overlap with lots of their neighbours. As you squish two of them together, the repulsive nuclear forces starts to rise sharply. The strong repulsive forces from the nearest neighbours will be bigger than the others, and wil

  21. Re:legitimate question by lafiel · · Score: 2, Informative

    A shared quantum state is one where every electron shares a similar wave equation. This allows for the escape of many so called 'rules' of quantum physics, most importantly, the principle that prevents more than one electron from sharing the same energy state.

    Since 4He allows for superfluid behaviour, the only possible explanation for 0-viscosity (or so we believe) is that every particle within the condensate is actually sharing the same wave equation.

    Given that particles are sharing the exact same wave equation, they are, in fact, the same particle. Since particle positioning cannot be determined without sacrificing determination of movement, then such particles could (and do) tunnel through solid matter.

    I find it difficult to understand your last words... "through a low-temperature mash of helium atoms with zero electrical resistance". Resistivity is a property of electron collisions... although I do believe it makes sense if you mean that the helium mesh is -already- a superconductive state. This might theoretically be possible, for it to be both superconductive and superfluid, but I do not think such criteria are actually proven as facts... yet.

    I hope I managed to explain some of the facts for you.

  22. Re:Haiku by b-baggins · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, conducting electricity simply requires a flow of electrons. Gold is incredibly inert chemically, and is a superb conductor of electricity.

    Helium as a gas conducts electricity poorly for two reasons: 1) The electrons are in a very stable configuration, and, 2) as a gas, the atoms are too far apart for electrons to move from atom to atom, which is required for an electrical current.

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  23. Re:Some thoughts on superfluids by Compuser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dude, this year's Nobel in Physics went to Leggett
    (among others) for work on superfluid helium.

  24. Re:This physicist says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The apparent healing of the crack that you witness is not due to flow of the material, but rather chemical attack. When you score the glass you get 2 free surfaces with unsatified bonds. These bonds are rapidly satisfied by atmospheric molecules; mostly, water or hydroxyls. These molecules have a corrosive effect of the glass surface. Over time, the once atomically sharp crack-tip is blunted by this corrosion mechanism and the glass is effectively strengthened.

  25. Re:This physicist says: by Graff · · Score: 2, Informative
    So what you're saying is that they actually do flow. In reality they flow faster than "billions of years", but either way, it's a liquid.

    Just because something flows slowly does not mean that it is a liquid. As I have stated elsewhere glass flows because it is an amorphous solid and the individual molecules of glass are weakly linked enough that they can rearrange to some extent. If there is a force acting upon these molecules then they will tend to be influenced by that force. This even happens in crystalline structures but to a much smaller extent.

    To put it another way, a pile of sand is a solid and yet it can flow. A steel wire is a solid and yet if you put a weight on it it will begin to stretch and deform.