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LEGO Mindstorms Will Survive

thufir writes "LEGO has released a press release, where they dismiss the rumour that MINDSTORMS is being taken out of production. For some reason the changes in product policy lead to the misunderstanding that they would totally drop the product. 'Hearsay has it that a product range like LEGO MINDSTORMS is no longer in focus. This is not true. On the contrary, MINDSTORMS, CLIKITS and BIONICLE are all good examples of products the company wants to stake on.'" See our previous stories, Lego to Stop Producing Mindstorms and Lego Goes Back to the Basics.

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  1. Various languages for Mindstorm programming by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ruby
    Java
    Python

    Good times!

    1. Re:Various languages for Mindstorm programming by blancolioni · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ada

  2. Re:Bring back the old sets by tuffy · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't even know what it was called. :\

    Look for it here.

    (Just try not to /. them too much)

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  3. Perl by twoshortplanks · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lego::RCX module.

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  4. Re:What about the Mindstorms add-ons? by cmpalmer · · Score: 2, Informative

    While they don't appear to have the full sets, Pitsco has sensors, extra parts, and lots of neat Lego stuff intended for the educational market.

    Their print catalog is really cool.

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  5. Re:Wait.....WHAT? by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Informative

    You obviously don't know that "stake" can mean to place a wager on.

  6. AI4U Free Minds for Mindstorms by Mentifex · · Score: 4, Informative

    A free Mind for Mindstorms and other robots is available in Forth, for when the Mindstorms robot has enough user-fillable RAM to load in the AI4U Mind.

    pbForth has long been a Forth programming language available for the "brick" of the Lego Mindstorms.

    An Aibo robot fan site features the JavaScript version of the free AI Mind.

    AI4U: Mind-1.1 Programer's Manual is an alternative AI textbook that describes the Robot AI Mind in the 34 diagrams of 34 chapters corresponding to 34 mind-modules.

  7. Re:Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    From personal experience, don't EVER mix up a batch of Cool-Aid if the little package is about 10 years old.

    It's a little bland until you get to the bottom of the cup and a tar-like substance is revealed.

    Oh, and don't taste the tar-like substance.

  8. Thanks to Slashdot by Lust · · Score: 3, Informative

    This clarification on the Lego website is a direct result of Slashdot. I read the original posting that Mindstorm may be discontinued and sent the article to my wife who is a primary organizer for the First Lego League here in Canada. She in turn sent it up the chain of command until it reached First in the US and then Lego. Lego responded with this clarification. So thank you Slashdot for providing the start of this process.

  9. Re:project idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I am ashamed to say that I already did this. Sort of.

    I programmed it to play the tones for 'I Will Survive', using my cell phone as a reference. I'd post the source code (NQC) if I still had it.

  10. Sex and Birth Control (How far OT are we?) by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nature didn't anticipate birth control or uncontrolled overpopulation, thus our reproductive drives cause us to desire sex, not children... though some people do seem to get the itch for children. It's that excess meat between our ears causing all these problems.

    Nature prefers 'population control' using disease, starvation, and predation to 'birth control'. I prefer it the other way around.

    Oh, and grow a pair and don't post as an AC!

  11. Yay! by psyconaut · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was kinda hoping that in a couple of years, my daughter might be old enough for Mindstorms....so glad it's staying in production.

    Oh, and one last time....the pluralization is LEGO!!! The product is LEGO. You play with LEGO. The company is LEGO. Americans are the only people on the planet who call is "Legos" or "Legoes".

    -psy

  12. Re:Good thing they keep mindstorms, but ... by jacobito · · Score: 2, Informative

    What you want are the Lego Designer and Inventor series sets. They consist chiefly of traditional Lego bricks, include several designs in each set, and, by God, they don't seem to be advertisements for anything! The pieces are versatile, and you should be able to use them to build many models not envisioned by the original builders. The product line leads up very nicely to the Technic sets (which were called "Expert Builder" sets when I was a kid).

    If I had more disposable income, I would buy up every set in this series.

  13. Re:Now that they're keeping Mindstorms... by BuilderBob · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with the Mindstorms kit is that it has always relied on a few researchers output from MIT. The researchers used a (AFAICR) Microchip PIC with EEPROM to use as the CPU and an EPROM chip to store the single byte commands. There was also a smaller Mindstorms kit(can't remember the name) based on another MIT project called Crickets, which were smaller, with no LCD screen and only digital I/O. They are referenced on the linked page but the link is dead.

    The PIC they used has 13 dual I/O pins and some others, even a basic Brick would take 4 pins for the lcd screen, 3 for the logic inputs. I think there are 2 A/D converters which are both used and a reset switch, oh, and the IR (it has IR, right?)

    If they want the kind of things you ask, they need to upgrade the hardware, which they have never done. But with the latest chips they can easily get 4 ports (32 I/O pins) and a couple of A/D aswell. It will also have a new communication protocol allowing (essentially) less I/O lines for the memory and LCD and faster programming.

    The radio communications is a bit different, WiFi is out I think, the power needed and the overspec of the transmission (a TCP/IP header would take up a lot of space on the chip).

    The Bluetooth might be possible NOW, the communication is either by serial port (RCX 1.0) or USB (RCX 1.5/2.0?), all you should need to do is hack the software to use the port, its already set up to communicate in low-level code.

    The language was ripped off from LOGO (perfect for a robot really) and is easy enough to upgrade..even using some of the other interpreters/languages written for the chip.

    And yes, I did plan to make a clone, even down to rough schematics and language design. One problem with a clone is the accessories, the brick hardware is possible. The extra sensors are kind of tedious :( LEGO has the LEGO bricks as a common theme to make sensors easy, and they kept them simple (Was it anymore than a switch and a thermistor/resistor?)

    Oh for simpler times, when real work didn't interrupt.

    BB

  14. Re:Everyone complains but they haven't shopped lat by Iorek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hear, hear! Those creator, designer and inventor sets are excellent, and Lego should be commended for "getting back to their roots," so to speak.

  15. Re:Where? by homer_ca · · Score: 2, Informative

    KB has very little name brand stuff. Most of it is overpriced, cheap no-name junk. No surprise they're in Chapter 11. Target has at least an aisle and Toys R Us has a pretty big section of Legos.

  16. Re:Bionicle? WHY? by digrieze · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remember, LEGO is not an American product (although the company would probably tank if they couldn't sell here).

    The BIONICLE line is built on one version of a Norwegian mythology about earth spirits (or daemons, in other versions).

    Lego didn't come up with the idea, they just came up with new names they could protect in court.

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