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Wireless Street Lamps for Traffic Monitoring

RMH101 writes "The Register has a story about a UK initiative to create a country-wide wireless data network using street lamps. It's come to pass through a government initiative to monitor all cars' speed and location, all the time, everywhere. The company involved, Last Mile, are proposing an intelligent mesh of smart street lamps embedded with storage and wireless networking to create 200MBit network access across the UK, including remote areas not reachable by conventional broadband. Work is due to start this year."

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  1. What if... by zeux · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... someone hacks in the system and makes the local police think that you are doing 150 mph with your 2 CV?

  2. vandalism just got a lot more fun for criminals... by twiggy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just wait until criminals and/or bored kids know where these things are embedded... the metal box they're going to need to protect it from damage is probably going to block any chance of a wireless signal from coming out ;-)

    While this sounds like a cool idea, I see too much room for abuse... Besides, they're using it to track all this traffic activity... do you want to use the government's internet connection so they can track that part of your life, too?

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  3. Cognative Dissonance in a nutshell by shystershep · · Score: 5, Funny
    Big Brother-like monitoring/control vs. wireless connectivity everywhere there is a road.

    Gods and fishes! Somebody get me some aspirin!

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  4. monitoring by sinucus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there anything left in the UK that isn't being monitored? Cameras on all the streets, in the stores and now wireless monitoring your speed. Bye bye 2004, hello 1984.

    1. Re:monitoring by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

      College girls dormitories, although I'm petitioning to have that changed.

      Think of their safety!

    2. Re:monitoring by sinucus · · Score: 5, Funny

      What are you talking about? I just got an email 10 minutes ago advertising British college girls caught totally unaware!

    3. Re:monitoring by gowen · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Is there anything left in the UK that isn't being monitored
      Err, yes.
      Cameras on all the streets
      Err, no. Cameras on some streets, but hardly everywhere.
      wireless monitoring your speed
      And damn right, too. Speaking as a cyclist, given the number of psychopathic, homicidal pillocks who are allowed to throw 2 tons of metal around on Britain's streets, I want even tighter controls on the speeders. The selfish little bastards put their (marginal) time savings over the safety of the rest of us. If I was as reckless with a gun as all-to-many drivers are with cars, they'd lock me in prison, not just suspend me from driving for a few months.
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    4. Re:monitoring by NickFitz · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Is there anything left in the UK that isn't being monitored?

      The government?

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  5. Never in the US by Yoda2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure all the cars going the wrong way would easily crash the software.

  6. One problem... by sasquatch21 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As member of a rural area desperatly waiting for broadband, I see one big problem with the plan; most rural areas don't have streetlights!

  7. It's official by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    All brit's posting to slashdot have officially lost the right to make references to the U.S. being an orwellian, facist state in comparison to their own.

    You guys seem to have so many cameras and tracking systems going in that country of yours you probably enjoy the privacy offered by Las Vegas casinos.

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  8. Great way to detect traffic jams by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tracking vehicles is a great way to detect traffic jams. If the vehicles moving past one sensor do not reach the next sensor in a reasonable amount of time, you know you have a problem. The linked research suggests that tracking vehicles through the network enables a faster detection time for problems (faster than waiting for the traffic to clog and backup to where the sensor is located.)

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  9. Hopw long before we see... by bc90021 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..."professional women" with wirless enabled PDAs? Possible slogan: "The newest technology for the world's oldest profession." ;)

  10. Re:vandalism just got a lot more fun for criminals by strictnein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the metal box they're going to need to protect it from damage is probably going to block any chance of a wireless signal from coming out

    That's why you put the antenna on the outside...
    Street lights are what, 15-20 feet tall? (5-6 meters for our European friends :) Not the easiest place to gain access too.

  11. Big Brother by Ilex · · Score: 5, Informative

    monitor all cars' speed and location, all the time, everywhere

    The UK gov has an obsession with monitoring it's citizens. London already has more CCTV than any other capital. On average you're court on camera 300 times a day.

    I expect their excuse is to improve road safety. The real reason is so they can issue more speeding tickets and increase the number of tolls.

    The UK Motorist already pays 3 taxes to use the roads. Duty at the gas pump, Road Tax and tolls to use public roads in the form of the London congestion charge.

  12. What about just maintaining the roads... by browman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There was a report recently that stated that something like 1 in 5 miles of road in the UK was in such a poor state that it was unfit to drive on. How about they drop this idea for the moment and fill some potholes instead?

    Some councils actually spend more money setting compensation claims from car owners who have had accidents due to poor roads than they do actually maintaining them.

    Anyway, with a decent network in place, perhaps we'd need to use them less anyway!

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  13. 1984 Anyone? by pragma_x · · Score: 5, Funny

    But the constant monitoring by the streetlamps is for our own safety, lest we succumb to breaking the law.

    All brit's posting to slashdot have officially lost the right to make references to the U.S. being an orwellian, facist state in comparison to their own.

    Surely, brother, we shouldn't make such references to our beloved state. The principles of INGSOC must be upheld in all aspects of life.

    To do otherwise is CRIMETHINK. Please report to room 101 for re-education.

  14. Re:Putting expensive equipment by strictnein · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are you suggesting that people are going to start snapping these puppies off to steal the wireless routers

    No, when a car hits them (which happens on a semi-frequent basis in any major metropolitan area). They're made to snap off to decrease the damage done to the car and occupants. They're also easier to repair if they snap completely off then if they would just bend when hit.
    Next time you walk by one, take a little bit closer look at it. They're typically connected to the base by 4 large bolts usually with some type of cushioning, semi-plyable material in between. When a car hits it the four bolts snap and the pole falls over, typically breaking just the bolts and the light and causing minimal damage to the vehicle. To repair it they simply replace the light and the four bolts.

    Plus only the antenna would need to be on the streetlight itself, the rest could be buried underground.

    That wouldn't make too much sense and would be much more expensive/time consuming to install and repair. You don't see a lot of burried phone boxes. But who knows, this is the government.

  15. Re:Finally by mirio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "So I'm a biased pedestrian..."

    So I suppose you wouldn't mind if the government planted a GPS unit in your person to make sure you only crossed the street at crosswalks?

  16. Because speeding has little to do with accidents by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only 7% of accidents have anything at all to do with speeding. It's a damned near insignificant number.

    The other *93%* of accidents are caused by shit driving which can't be monitored by speed cameras or wireless street lights.

    The accident rate in the UK was falling steadily *until* the police and local government started installing thousands of speed cameras everywhere. It is no longer falling because now shit driving is OK as long as you don't go 5mph over the bloody limit.

    I break the speed limit *every* single day but I don't drive dangerously. Speeding and dangerous driving are *not* the same thing.

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