BSD For Linux Users

noackjr writes "Matt Fuller posted among his rants a great introduction and explanation of BSD For Linux Users: 'It's been my impression that the BSD communit{y,ies}, in general, understand Linux far better than the Linux communit{y,ies} understand BSD. I have a few theories on why that is, but that's not really relevant. I think a lot of Linux people get turned off BSD because they don't really understand how and why it's put together. Thus, this rant; as a BSD person, I want to try to explain how BSD works in a way that Linux people can absorb.'"

Comments

Odd title.

[grub]

"BSD For Linux Users"

What, was "BSD For Dummies" already taken?

ouch.. my karma is going to burn over that one :)

Re:Odd title.

[LA_Samurai]

The reason why BSD turns me off (god knows I tried to like it) is because it sounds too much like Windows BSoD (shudder...)

condescension from a BSD guru?

[bluethundr]

Thus, this rant; as a BSD person, I want to try to explain how BSD works in a way that Linux people can absorb.'"

duuuuuuuhhhh When your done telling me about BSD Georgeie, can you please tell me about da' rabbits? I wanna know how dey dance and frolick in da springtime! I really wanna know about da rabbits George...duuuuhhh....

BSD?

[Anonymous Coward]

What's this all about?

Is it good or is it not so good?

Re:BSD?

[Malc]

Whether it's good or not isn't important. All you need to know as a good /.er is that it's dying. ;)

Re:BSD?

[Anonymous Coward]

My theory on that is that since BSD is even less common than linux, only the elitest of the fat nerdy nerds use it.

Therefor BSD nerds are 20-30% fatter and nerdier than linux nerds.

BSD vs Linux

[larry bagina]

There's a (too true) saying:

BSD is for those that love Unix. Linux is for those that hate Windows.

Re:BSD vs Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

OSX is for people who like to pretend they're running the best possible interface on the most advanced hardware. And miss on both counts.

Re:BSD vs Linux

[slim-t]

Jobs could present DOS 2.0 as the New OS to the Apple community and they would buy it as long as the box was pretty.

When is that coming out? I'll have to put in for my vacation to camp out at the Apple Store.

Re:BSD vs Linux

[Trejkaz]

Linux is also for those who hate Unix.

Re:BSD vs Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Elegy for *BSD

I am a *BSD user
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
*BSD's foot is in the grave.

I tap at my toy keyboard,
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
*BSD died so soon.

Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but *BSD is dying.

Re:BSD vs Linux

[zangdesign]

That's why I use a Mac ...

oh ... wait ... dang.

The Truth?

[Anonymous Coward]

Apparently, since the article is currently returning a 403 Forbidden, he thinks Linux users can't handle what he has to say.

Whoops

[Realistic_Dragon]

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php on this server.

At least BSD lets you log in and change file permissions whilst being slashdotted, impressive!

Re:Slashdotted already?

[DreadSpoon]

Must've been running BSD.

*ducks* ;-)

In a way that Linux people can absorb

[Anonymous Coward]

I want to try to explain how BSD works in a way that Linux people can absorb.

Just sprinkle your explanation with random anti-Microsoft rants and talk of your imminent death, and you'll do just fine.

BSD Server

[Anonymous Coward]

BSD (server) is dying! (from being slashdotted)

FreeBSD for Linux Users

[Chromodromic]

I want to try to explain how BSD works in a way that Linux people can absorb.

Well, my suggestion would be to use a lot of pretty pictures interspersed with interludes on where Linus is, what Linus is doing, what Linus was wearing, what Linus said, what Linus' facial expression was as he said it, if Linus will be say something like that again, perhaps, in the future, and where Linus might be living or moving to, maybe, perhaps, possibly.

Then I'd lead all the Linux users out to a fertile field where they could graze for the day, protected by a couple of good dogs, herding them in, keeping them together, where I'd sit back and enjoy their gentle baying in the summer sun: Liiiiinnnnux, Liiiiiinux ...

rabbits

[temojen]

We'll have rabbits and chickens and live off the fat of the LAN.

Appologies to Steinbeck

What... you mean...

[NitroWolf]

You trying to tell me BSD isn't another Distro of Linux?

WTF?

Re:I wanted to read this but...

[Frymaster]

er. this is not a good advertisement for bsd as a web server....

Slashdotted

[the_crowbar]

Only 31 comments so far and it is slashdotted.

Are Slashdot readers actually reading this story? What with Linux, BSD, and rant in the title it must be good. :)

I guess that is what I get for working on Friday afternoon instead of reading Slashdot. It is time for the afternoon sun to wash out my monitor anyway, so I have to take a break.

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the_crowbar

BIND and Sendmail

[FuzzyBad-Mofo]

BIND and sendmail were originally developed at Berkeley as part of BSD

Aha, so that's where the blame lies! ;)

Re:Slashdotted already?

[rekoil]

traceroute www.over-yonder.net
traceroute to www.dyn.over-yonder.net (68.19.137.116): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets

7 BELLSOUTH-TE.gar1.Level3.net (67.72.8.42) 20.3 ms (ttl=247!) 20.4 ms (ttl=247!) 20.5 ms (ttl=247!)
8 axr01asm-1-0-0.bellsouth.net (65.83.236.7) 20.5 ms (ttl=246!) 20.5 ms (ttl=246!) 20.5 ms (ttl=246!)
9 ixc01jan-5-0-1.bellsouth.net (65.83.237.89) 29.4 ms (ttl=246!) 29.4 ms (ttl=246!) 29.5 ms (ttl=246!)
10 205.152.137.134 (205.152.137.134) 40.9 ms 40.9 ms 41.0 ms
11 adsl-81-101-28.jan.bellsouth.net (65.81.101.28) 41.0 ms (ttl=54!) 45.6 ms (ttl=54!) 41.0 ms (ttl=54!)
12 * * *
13 * * *
14
(interrupt)

ADSL line, meet Slashdot. Slashdot, melt ADSL line.

Re:site is slashdotted, here's the 1st page

[Pharmboy]

I'm sure Darl McBride is going to quote you quite liberally. Thank you very much for HARMING both communities.

Yea, because everyone knows that an opinion posted on slashdot is hard evidence in any court of law.

Do you have any idea how silly what you said sounds? They are too busy asking IBM for a copy of AIX so they can compare code.

Re:I wanted to read this but...

[Anonymous Coward]

Elegy For *BSD

I am a *BSD user
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
*BSD's foot is in the grave.

I tap at my toy keyboard
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
*BSD died so soon.

Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but *BSD is dying.

Forbidden !

[chrysalis]

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.over-yonder.net Port 80

Ok, as a Linux user, I really understand why I should _not_ use BSD after reading this :)

Re:It's political not technical

[Ed Avis]

Release BSD under the GPL and I'll try it out, otherwise, forget it.

For code released under the new BSD licence it's entirely possible to release it under the GPL. You could even do that yourself. Perhaps you mean something else?

Understanding communities

[marcovje]

/me thinks that the avg BSD user understands linux
better than the avg linuxer.

Re:And my impression is...

[evil-barn]

You're a debian user right? (:

Re:THIS MEANS WAR

[Anonymous Coward]

You need integers for a regex range.

comm[y\(ies\)]

HTTP suggestion

[Lord Prox]

I hereby propose an addition to the HTTP status codes for the 418 Slashdotted response. This response code MAY also automatically request that the clients operator place a temporary mirror online for a 24 hour period.

Re:HTTP suggestion

[ebassi]

The codes are roughly:

1xx -- Not done yet
2xx -- You win
3xx -- You lose, but try again
4xx -- You lose; your fault
5xx -- You lose; my bad

Then, the:
6xx -- You lose; blame CowboyNeal

code class should be added.

Like in Star Trek

[ClosedSource]

Every time I witness a debate between BSD and Linux fans, I reminded of the Star Trek episode where the Cheronians were a race of people who were black on one side and white on the other. One group claimed the other was inferior because they were black on the left side instead of the right.

Re:Funny and True

[mbogosian]

Most people have an opinion based on the last person who talked to them.

Hey, you're right! That's now my opinion too!

BSD for Linux Users?

[Brooklynoid]

I thought we all became Linux users to avoid the Blue Screen of Death!

What's that? Oh, that BSD?

Never mind, then.

Re:Advocacy

[dan14807]

Linux is for bitches and stupid ones at that :

Your carefully worded and well thought-out reply has forced me to reconsider my position.