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Apple Introduces Logic Pro 6 and Logic Express

dark_lotus writes "Apple introduces Logic Pro 6 and Logic Express. This brings Apple's audio offerings (GarageBand, Logic Express, and Logic Pro) to a similar setup with its three levels of video editors (iMovie, Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Pro). Logic Pro boasts new innovative software instruments, including Sculpture, a new component-modeling based synthesizer, and UltraBeat, a deep and rich percussion synthesizer that provides multiple synthesis techniques for generating every type of electronic or acoustic drum sound imaginable. You can read the press releases for the Preview of Logic and the announcement of Logic Pro and Logic Express. Logic Pro is priced at US$999, while Logic Express is priced at US$299. Today is also the launch of iLife '04 which comes with GarageBand, the new iLife app for music creation."

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  1. Logic Forums by clifyt · · Score: 5, Informative

    I run the largest logic forums on the net...if you are interested in this product past the stuff you will no doubt be reading here, check out Sonikmatter.com.

    http://community.sonikmatter.com/cgi-bin/emagic/ ul timatebb.cgi

    Lots of good information from the guys at Emagic as well as a few guys from Apple (not that many say who they are lest they are harrassed by the users there :-)

    Check it out when ya get a chance...

    BTW -- these aren't new products by ANY means, just a repricing / consolidation of the apps, and a rebundling of Logic 6 Platnium w/all the plugins built in (for Logic Pro).

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    1. Re:Logic Forums by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Informative

      I suppose this is Karma-Whoring, but it really is a lot easier with a corrected link without the space.

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  2. Re:Was wondering why they dropped the pc version by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, if I recall, Apple didn't pay them for exlusivity, they bought the company outright. I'd say thats plenty of a reason to release exlusive for a company who signs your paychecks :P

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  3. Soundtrack by arloguthrie · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's also interesting to note that Apple lowered the price of Soundtrack to $199 (from $299). Though Soundtrack is marketed more as an accessory to Final Cut Pro, it still features all of the Apple Loop whatsits that work in GarageBand and have been wedged into the new Logic offerings. In this iLife/Express/Pro product matrix for audio and video, I wonder where this leaves Soundtrack.

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    1. Re:Soundtrack by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is an accessory to Final Cut Pro, yes, but Apple now includes it for free with Final Cut Pro 4, along with 9 GB of loops.

      FCP4 users don't need to buy the standalone app.

      With the LiveType install as well, a full install of everything in the FCP4 box comes to about 16GB.

      FCP4 itself, Soundtrack, Compressor, LiveType, Cinema Tools.

  4. Re:Replace my stereo/DVD/CD? by tonydiesel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nah -- an Xserve is waaaaay too deep for normal applications -- close to 30".

    I looked into adding one to my portable rig and even though I have a box with a bigass mixer in it, it was nowhere near deep enough. Most pro audio equipment is no more than 12" deep, they just don't mix well...

    Most home audio stuff isn't even 20" deep. So I guess you could add an Xserve but either you'd need some crazy-deep shelf space or be happy with one unit sticking like 10" out the back of your rack/shelf...

  5. Re:Preview of next generation of Logic by clifyt · · Score: 4, Informative

    New-er Interface. Still not the Brushed Metal we all hate.

    It had previews of the new soundware attached to it, New 'Apple Loops' tech -- more Acid / Soundtrack Stuff, Sculpture -- a new Softsynth, UltraBeat -- a percussion softsynth, and the GitAmp.

    Past that, its in an Alpha state and friends mentioned that it had crashed twice while they being shown the demo (probably why its not on the main floor :-). It, or its AudioUnits (the Sculpture / UB / GitAmp), need a LITTLE more work, but I've seen these things go from unstable to stable in less than a month, so I'm not worried.

    So its not much...then again, Logic 5 to Logic 6 wasn't that much of an upgrade either. Incremental steps instead of a new revolution.

  6. Re:Was wondering why they dropped the pc version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    As above, Apple bought eMagic and killed off all of the PC products almost immediately, even though they were about 1/3 of their sales.

    http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/01/ 1242224&mode=thread&tid=176

  7. Re:Replace my stereo/DVD/CD? by SegFaultCM · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've spoken with the Apple Xserve Subject Experts (long story). They say the Xserve G5 puts out about 60 dB of noise. Now you have some numbers to compare.

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  8. Re:Xserve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dimensions:
    1.73 inches (4.4 cm) high by 17.6 inches (44.7 cm) wide by 28 inches (71.1 cm) deep

    Weight:
    33 pounds (15.1 kg); 37 pounds (16.6 kg) with three Apple Drive Modules

    That is pretty deep by home appliance comparison.

  9. Re:Replace my stereo/DVD/CD? by daviddennis · · Score: 2, Informative

    My company owns one. It's sitting to the left of me right now.

    It's much louder than my dual 2ghz G5 at home, except when the latter's fans are turned up all the way. Then it's about the same.

    The difference is that there are no variable speed fans as in the G5.

    This is the G4 Xserve, and they may have changed things in the G5 model. But I would doubt it since noise isn't an issue to rackmount server buyers; it is assumed.

    D

  10. How about spending $199 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    OSXAudio.com (check the forums) has many reports that current Plat and Gold customers will be able to upgrade for $199. And that includes EVERYTHING. Older version will have a higher upgrade price to get current. Seems like a very good deal, especially for Gold owners.

  11. Re:Too many choices for me by g_lightyear · · Score: 4, Informative

    - GarageBand: Basic, entry-level music production. Supports "Apple Loops", a format of sample loop data. Ships with buttloads of plugins - more than Logic do at the moment, quite frankly - and has what appears to be an incredible sample and synthesis engine. Looks like baby versions of the ones to be included in Logic, actually. - Soundtrack: Audio editor/compositor, and loop manager. Supports loop-based audio editing, playback, and scoring. Supports video-scoring, which makes it good for doing video work with; one of the reasons it's shipped with Final Cut Pro 4. It is designed to be exactly what the name says: A supporting role for soundtrack creation, where the music, or its pieces, are already composed and prepared. While it supports composing, composing isn't its primary feature - and on the whole, GarageBand or Logic will be a better choice. If you need MIDI, GarageBand or Logic are your only choice. Logic: Entry-level pro editing... Comes with a playback-only version of the sampler (so no sample editing) and all of the other things that Logic Audio has traditionally shipped with. Unclear as to what other new functionality will be provided. GarageBand eats into this product on the low-end, with its additional plugins and support for the amp, but Logic has a lot more high-end features that you'd use if you spent a lot of time producing music, while still offering all of the basic capabilities that GarageBand does (except the plugins - but one can successfully argue that this market isn't necessarily going to mind). - Logic Pro. Everything that was in Logic Audio Platinum. Along with every plugin you used to buy separately, for another $1000. Basically, everything EMagic ever produced, in one box, with everything that apple's produced alongside them for the new series. The Rolls Royce of systems, by a very, very, very long way. Hell, that reverb alone is pretty much worth it. -

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  12. Re:Buying iLife '04 on Sunday by g_lightyear · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pixar was feeling around a while back to see whether or not there was interest in getting RenderMan back to the Mac. (Once upon a time, yes, it was on the mac. :)

    But it wouldn't be 'better' than Maya - Maya's strength isn't in its renderer, it's in the modeller. The renderer's not bad, but it can generate RIB format data, and is a world-class modeller if you're using it to create scenes to be rendered in RenderMan-compliant renderers.

    More of a Mental Ray vs RenderMan thing, really. There's competition there. But the procedural nature of RenderMan's textures and the world - along with being what makes it so difficult to master - is what makes it beautiful and unique. RenderMan's shader language is bizarre and wonderful, both in terms of scope and capability. All of this new 'procedural texture' stuff in current-generation 3D hardware owes an awful lot to RenderMan's shader language.

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  13. Re:Simple Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You call a Q1 revenue of $256,000,000 on the iPod alone marginal? Idiot. A look at Apple's Q1 sales, by the numbers