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NASA Cancels Hubble Mission, and Other Space Bits

An anonymous reader writes "NASA Watch is reporting that NASA has cancelled Servicing Mission 4 for the Hubble Space Telescope. The reason given is not for budgets, but for safety." ender81b writes "With all the excitement generated by the Mars Exploration Rovers now is a good time to look at future space exploration missions. One of the most exciting is the Kepler spacecraft which will search for terrestrial planets around nearby stars. Other interesting upcoming missions include the New Horizons mission to explore Pluto and the Kuiper belt, Deep Impact which will fire a small impactor into a comet to study the insides, Messenger which will fully photograph Mercury for the first time, and the ESA's Herschel infrared space telescope and Rosetta spacecraft which will land on a comet for the first time. Whew, good time to be invovled in space exploration!" StarWreck writes "Cnet.com is reporting that the Mars Rover uses Java. The same piece of software that lets people around the world play video games on their cell phones is now letting scientists drive the ultimate remote-controlled car across the surface of Mars."

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  1. *sighs* NASA seems to have a lot to learn. by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay, now I know that it is somewhat of the geek stereotype that "If its not broke, gimme a minute to make it faster", but why does it seem like we are abandoning the HST?

    Yes, I know that technically it is coming to the end of its projected life span, but that does not mean we should just let it die. I never cease to be amazed at some of the images (yes I know they are touched up) that the HST has given us.

    Yes, NASA and JPL are (and righfully so) basking in the glory of the success of the latest Mars probe. But what about in 6 months when those probes are gone. All I see in these stories are future flights. Why abandon something that is still giving us good results.

    With the less than perfect track records of probes sent by *any* space agency, I can't pin my hopes of data (and dreams) on future flights.

    I think its only wise to keep the HST working as long as we can, or at least until the Webb (is that correct?) telescope is up and functional.

    Just my .02, YMMV.

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  2. Public outrage by spanklin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hubble has been the best publicity generator for astronomy for *years* now. My bet is that this was announced when and how it was precisely because they are hoping to generate enough public outrage to get this decision reversed. Personally, I know it was a blow to many of my colleagues. Trying to get HST time has been difficult and frustrating, but you can't deny its impact. The number of high quality science results that have been generated by the telescope dwarfs just about all of its competition when you use most object measurement criteria. We'll see what happens, I guess, but my guess is that the astronomical community is going to at least try to put whatever weight they can muster behind getting the HST servicing mission made a priority again.

  3. Mapping mercury by Saven+Marek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a note about fully mapping mercury, it seems to be one of the forgotten planets nobody talks about much, but has had some attention in the past.

    Still, there are some interesting Mariner shots of the planet online. Not quite half has been mapped yet, but there's some interesting features that make it unique.

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  4. What will happen to Hubble? by Hays · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This article (http://www.nature.com/nsu/030728/030728-13.html) from the summer had the following speculation-

    "Until recently, the agency had planned to have the space shuttle return Hubble to Earth for museum display. "No one wants to do that anymore," says Anne Kinney, head of NASA's astronomy and physics division.

    In fact, the US astronaut corps opposes "risking human lives for the purpose of disabling great science" representative John Grunsfeld told the meeting. It would support a servicing mission to extend Hubble's life or ensure its safe re-entry, he said. A servicing trip to the telescope costs NASA about US$700 million, much of which maintains planning teams at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

    The option of moving the Hubble to a higher storage orbit has also been dropped. Instead, NASA favours attaching a rocket booster to the telescope in 2010 to steer it to burn up over the ocean.

    So far, NASA has found no affordable way to attach the rocket and extend the telescope's life without degrading its performance. Defenders argue that the problem can be solved, and that useful observations can still be obtained from the telescope after the booster is attached."

    I guess it's just going to drift while. It's in a 600km orbit.

  5. This will cost us more than it saves... by case_igl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The articles state that NASA is going to "design and build" a robotic attachment to send up to Hubble when the lifetime is over. This is going to dock with Hubble, the control the re-entry so that it doesn't end up hitting a populated area.

    Seems to be, the costs of one additional shuttle mission may very well be cheaper than the costs to design and build this robotic craft.

    Also, the original plan called for a final shuttle flight to return Hubble inside the payload bay. Hubble was to be studied in detail to see the effects of long-term exposure in space to help design future craft to be more resistant.

    After that, it was going to be given to the Smithsonian AIr and Space museum. A fitting place given the discoveries made with Hubble.

    Sometimes I think we are often shortsighted these days...Doing everything for the bottom line and not thinking about future generations ability to "see and touch" some of the great things we have done.

  6. Re:The Mars Rover OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If anyone's curious about the CPU used by the rovers, it's one of the POWER derived radiation hardened chips made by BAE Systems. While it's PPC based, it's more similar to a family of CPUs that split off even before the first of the Mac PPCs, the 601. Similar operating speed and power, however, as the first of those.

    The newer PPC based space capable CPUs are RAD750s, which are directly related to the G3 PPC powering iMacs and iBooks.

    While on the topic of space hardware, and going back to photograph mercury, what kind of camera equipment was used to take images of the moon and mars in the 1960s/1970s? I was told by an English teacher that each photo was snapshotted on film, then exposed in a small photoprocessing lab inside the probes, and scanned to send back to earth as there was no possibility of capturing fast moving images on CCD that far back. I think that sounds a bit of wishful thinking urban legend. Anyone know for sure?

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  7. Bush's plan helps some places by wass · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Interstingly enough, look at the NASA centers that benefit the most from Bush's ISS/moon/Mars plan.

    The three main beneficiaries are Cape Canavral (launch, at Florida), Johnson Space Center (Mission Control, at Houston), and JPL (interplanetary craft, at Pasadena, California). FL, TX, and CA. All of these centers, and hence states, will see vastly increased funding. And all of these centers are also in key states Bush needs to win the election.

    Sorry about the conspiracy theory, but it's an interesting trend, noticed especially by several NASA folks too.

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    1. Re:Bush's plan helps some places by ToSeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And it mostly hurts the Goddard Space Flight Center and the Space Telescope Science Institute, both of which are located in solidly Democratic Maryland.

  8. Re:So, anyone want to be the first to assume? by spenton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think I might be able add a little perspective here, and yes "OMG .." is a good start. I have been working for the past 5+ years on a science instrument for SM4. We've been busting ours butts, and our instrument is complete and ready to go. Today we learned that our mission is cancelled immediately, thanks for playing, do not collect$200, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    The 'safety' issue is that the shuttle must fly a different orbit to service the Hubble than for a trip to the ISS (International Space Station). Once in orbit, a tile-damaged Hubble bound shuttle could not change its orbit to reach the safety of the ISS. NASA COULD however have another shuttle on the pad to catch up to the damaged orbiter and unload the astronauts. The problem is cost, whether to have the extra shuttle ready, or to employ a in-orbit tile fixing procedure.

    GW is forcing NASA to re-direct $11Billion dollars from existing science projects to add to his contribution of $1Billion, so that we can send our ass(et)s to the Moon.IMHO, the cancelling of SM4 is purely about saving money. IMHO, this is GWs 'pie in the sky', get there before those evil Chinise and do it now, or I'm gonna cry, 'vision'.
    The Hubble has been the best observatory ever constructed, and while ground-based optical telescopes have caught up the Hubble is some respects, no ground-based telescope can measure UV light, or compete with the Hubble on image stability (among many other things).

    What's to become of the Hubble ? We cannot just let it fall back to Earth, very large pieces will survive the re-entry. Ideas have been tossed around with the options being to spend tons-o-cash to de-orbit it with a special rocket pack (guiding it into ocean), or bring it down with a shuttle.I doubt that the rocket pack can be constructed before Hubble re-enters in 2006. So, we may have to send a shuttle up to bring it down anyway.

    FYI, SM4 would have extended the Hubble's livetime considerably with new Gyros and pushing Hubble back up to the shuttle yes maximum elevation. This would allow for overlap with JWST. Without this facility (HST) an entire arm of the astronomy community will be cut off.

    Can you imagine if GW told the military, sorry about cancelling those jet-fighter things, don't worry we're gonna build this large wooden badger that's gonna show those silly French guys real good.

  9. It's not just space junk by sstaton · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I cannot wrap my head around the fact that we're not going to retrieve the greatest observatory of the 20th century when we have the means and the mandate (if the comments about international space treaties are correct). We don't have Columbus' ship; we don't have Leif Erickson's boat, but we do have the HST. It's as monumentous a vehicle of discovery as any and we can save it. If we cannot keep it flying, we must bring it back and place it in the Smithsonian. It's one of our (human race talking here) greatest accomplishments. It's not a weapon. It exists solely to measure THE SHAPE and SIZE of the UNIVERSE. If that doesn't get us some karma from ET, what will? We cannot throw this -- dare I say? -- sacred relic away. It showed us the Universe as if for the first time.

    500M$US to bring it down? Chicken feed to an Administration that spends 1000 times that in deficit. Shame. Shame on them.

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