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P2P File Swapping on the Rise Again?

asdf 101 writes "News.com reports today that 'After six months of declines, peer-to-peer usage recently climbed 14 percent.' Their bottomline: 'The decline came as the RIAA launched more than 300 lawsuits against file swappers. The reversal cast doubts on the music industry's claims that its lawsuits are working to deter people from illegally downloading music files.' I guess wake_up_and_smell_the_coffee time just gets that much more imminent for all the hacks at RIAA." There's also an AP story, and you might want to review this story from just a few weeks ago that has different conclusions.

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  1. Re:I, for one, have stopped by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do too. I buy all CD's USED. cince buying used CD's gives ZERO profit to the RIAA and pisses them off to no end.

    the only new Cd's I buy have been from IUMA artist and other indie bands I have found online and at their concerts.

    do I download music on a p2p netowrk? hell yeah. but then I buy that used CD to get a better copy of the recording.

    I suggest that EVERYONE buy used cd's only whenever possible. it will help a small business in your area, plus it will smack the RIAA in a way that royally pains them but they can do nothing about.

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  2. Out of sight out of mind by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect one of the reasons for any possible reversal is that as the press about the lawsuits dies down so does peoples conciousness about it.

    Scare tactics only work when you are scaring people. That's why the law suits won't work in the long term. You'd not only need new lawsuits all the time but you'd need the press to continue to be bothered to write about them. Otherwise for 99% of people they effectively aren't happening and there's nothing to worry about.

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  3. Re:I haven't used p2p in months by ajs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I use P2P services even now. I downloaded Fedora 1.0 at a rate of about 2-4x that I was getting from an FTP server. When you're sucking down a trio of 600+ MB isos, that's a big savings!

    Why do we assume that P2P networks are only being used by college students who want porn and music... could there perhaps be professionals in the industry out there too?

  4. The More You Tighten Your Grip... by meehawl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

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  5. Your Public Library has CDs by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As Obi-Wan might say, you can't win, but there are alternatives to downloading.

    Your local public library has CDs that you can borrow, usually for a week or so, absolutely free.

    Some of the more sophisticated libraries allow you to search and request titles online, so that a CD that's at a library twenty miles away, or currently checked out by someone else, will be sent to your nearest library as soon as it is available. Some libraries will send an email to let you know that your titles have arrived.

    Library CDs are often pretty beat up, and many are missing the original booklets or jewel cases, but they will still play in a good player. You can even do your library a favor and use some of that CD repair glop on them so future borrowers can enjoy them as well (assuming that stuff actually works).

    Now, I don't advocate that anyone go to their library's website, request a lot of titles that they want online, go pick them up, take them to their office with several networked PCs on a Saturday afternoon, rip the CDs to AAC, burn them onto a couple of blank CD-RWs, take them home, pop them into iTunes, and then transfer them all to an iPod. I couldn't support that. Especially since it's free.

    Now that I've let that cat out of the bag, we can expect to see the RIAA confiscating CDs from public libraries across the country, as well as obtaining Patriot Act subpoenas demanding to know the names, addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses of every library patron who has ever borrowed a CD. Since librarians have about as much political clout as homeless people (actually a little less), Congress and the media will look the other way.

    Or am I being exceptionally paranoid?

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  6. Re:What?! You mean by thogard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its like the old "Its September again" on usenet. I'm guessing that as soon as classes start up again and many more students get back with their new MP3 players, the games will start again.

  7. Assumptions by ic3p1ck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love the way that they assume that 14% increase in P2P usage == 14% increase in music sharing.

    P2P != music sharing.

    Its used for many other things as well, like, eh, movie sharing and ISOs etc..

  8. Socialists by poptones · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Ironic, ain't it? This attitude of endowment comes from industries that alledge themselves to be part of "free market capitalism." Wal-mart hands out instructions for obtaining public assistance to its own employees and demands huge tax credits to move stores into towns, fatories insist they'll be around just so long as they don't have to actually support the infrastructure they're taxing (like paying for those new roads, lights, and police to keep it all working) and entertainment companies insist they have a "right" to payment for pretty much every single "use" of anything they produce - never mind if it's even what the public wants.

    "Free market" in this country sure looks an awful lot like old soviet socialism. It's no wonder they can't put a dent in "piracy" when the companies claiming to be "victims" look just as evil as Ivan and Boris that run the Ukrainian pressing plants...

  9. The fundamental flaw in all these studies by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is self-reported usage So all the figures represent is the percentage of people who download music and are dumb enough to admit it to anyone who calls claiming to be a pollster. Of course this percentage would go down in light of the RIAA witch hunt regardless of whether there is any change, up or down, in actual file sharing.

    All statistics based on self-reported data should be taken with a large spoonful of salt!

  10. Two reasons swapping is down/up by occasional+user · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, the RIAA has done a very good job at injecting false music files, especially with hot artists. If you search "Eminem", most likely the top ten downloadable files that return are bogus. They play for five seconds, then BUZZZZ. Irritating. But I gues it's fire with fire. Second reason is that the initial flurry of downloading resulted in people downloading most of what they wanted. I used to be on P2P daily, but now it's only every couple of weeks, because my library is big enough that I could listen to it for days on end. So I believe the survey, but I think it's disingenuous to place cause/effect squarely on the lawsuits. I like to think of it as an "all-you-can-eat" buffet where the crowd has already gorged themselves. The new guys coming in the front door of the buffet will be eating, and the rest of us will be going back for seconds, but not with immediate gusto.