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O'Reilly Interview with the Plone Founders

Alexander Limi writes "Just in time for some light weekend reading, O'Reilly's OSDir.com has published a byte-sized interview with the two founders of Plone. This is a nice follow-up to the earlier discussion on Slashdot, and covers a lot of the unanswered questions people directed to us earlier as the surprise winners of the O'Reilly COMDEX competition."

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  1. Michael is a horrible editor who should be fired: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Michael is a horrible editor who should be fired: Why? Why fire one of the most active editors on slashdot?

    Although they claim this is a news site, michael openly admits his extreme bias and his affinity towards slanting the facts to fit his predetermined notions.

    michael was hired in the middle of hijacking the www.censorware.org website in a very immature, unethical, and corrupt manner.

    michael will frequently censor entire threads down to -1, simply because he doesn't agree with it.

    Even worse, sometimes michael (or some other slashdot editors) will mod a thread down to -1, and revoke mod point priveledges if anything, *anything* in that thread is modded up.

    Of course, this is just a partial list. michael's unprofessionalism, hypocrisy, and immaturity are well known to most long term slashdotters. It's amazing that despite this, and despite everyone's complaints to him and CmdrTaco, he has yet to change. This should not continue. michael should be fired now.

  2. blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fp!

  3. yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    8th post! ?????

  4. can they really "revoke mod point priveledges"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i have not been able to moderate in quite some time and was wondering what was up. is it possible that my moderating priveledges have been removed?

    1. Re:can they really "revoke mod point priveledges"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Yes, you have been $rtbled. $rtbl is Slash speak for "Real Time Black List". You can cap your karma and still be unable to moderate. Welcome to the club. I'd love to see the comment next to my user page, but only editors can read it. It's kinda like "The Permanant Record" the teachers warned you about in grade school, except of cours, you can just dump your Slashdot account, get a new one, and start all over.

    2. Re:can they really "revoke mod point priveledges"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      If you get modded down too many times, you will not be able to post at anything except -1, even if you have karma: excellent.

      I've never heard of that. I've seen trolls get their karma back up and they were able to post at +1 again. I know it's extremely rare since it's easier to just dump the account and start over, since users with terrible karma can only post twice a day.

  5. Important Stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:Important Stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  6. Buffy was his fav show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    buffy used to be my fav show on tv but now its starting to suck cause of all
    the niggers. there used to be no niggers on buffy but now the producers moved
    it to college n now we got niggers all over the place like in the initiaive n
    stuff. yea i know buffy had a nigger vampire on it last year but fate staked
    that nigger scum n killed his gay nigger ass! but now we got this nigger forest
    n the producers make him look all kewl n stuff when he isn't! well theres still
    hope cause the producers could the nigger off pretty easily. i also got to
    admit that buffy has far less niggers than some other shows that i watch. i
    mean voyager used to be cool but then it got so many niggers. there are too
    many niggers on voyager. star trek is really starting to suck n become star
    drek. we used to have kewl white characers like kirk n pikard n wesley crusher
    (he's my fav!) on star trek, but now we have stupid gay niggers like tuvoc n
    elena on voyager! i think the producers should kill those nigger fags n bring
    back some pure white blood like wesley and lieutenant carey. oh well, its
    wishful thinking, since the producers are such nigger lovers. at least voyager
    still has some kewl characters like janeway and naomi wildman n neelix. voyager
    is still better than that fuckin gay deep space nine show with the nigger
    captain and his nigger annoyin-as-hell son. i read some buffy spoilers though n
    it looks like my fav characters zander n jiles r getting more screen time, so
    thats kewl, so im not going to quit watching buffy like im going to quit
    watching voyager. but u know i heard that kes is coming back to voyager n is
    going to kill that nigger bitch elana so im going to watch to see that. but
    after that im gone

  7. He used to like Law and Order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    there r too many niggers on law & order. i used to watch law & order in the
    good old days. yeah i know they had a nigger lawyer in the first few seasons
    but that was ok cause he did nothing anyway n he was a servant for my fav
    character stone. then they added that nigger bitch but that was ok too cause
    she was only a lieutenant n she had almost no screen time. but now this season
    ive stopped watching law & order cause they added a nigger detective which
    really sucks cause now there r too niggers on the show n they both have more
    screen time than my current fav character lenny! so anyway until they get rid
    of the niggers im boycotting the show. too bad the producers cater to all the
    niggers n nigger lovers out there. usually the show is on target when it shows
    that niggers r mostly murders n rapists. but now its starting to slip. it's
    just like wut happened on buffy.
    buffy used to be my fav show on tv but now its starting to suck cause of all
    the niggers. there used to be no niggers on buffy but now the producers moved
    it to college n now we got niggers all over the place like in the initiaive n
    stuff. yea i know buffy had a nigger vampire on it last year but fate staked
    that nigger scum n killed his gay nigger ass! but now we got this nigger forest
    n the producers make him look all kewl n stuff when he isn't! well theres still
    hope cause the producers could the nigger off pretty easily. i also got to
    admit that buffy has far less niggers than some other shows that i watch. i
    mean voyager used to be cool but then it got so many niggers. there are too
    many niggers on voyager. star trek is really starting to suck n become star
    drek. we used to have kewl white characers like kirk n pikard n wesley crusher
    (he's my fav!) on star trek, but now we have stupid gay niggers like tuvoc n
    elena on voyager! i think the producers should kill those nigger fags n bring
    back some pure white blood like wesley and lieutenant carey. oh well, its
    wishful thinking, since the producers are such nigger lovers. at least voyager
    still has some kewl characters like janeway and naomi wildman n neelix. voyager
    is still better than that fuckin gay deep space nine show with the nigger
    captain and his nigger annoyin-as-hell son. i read some buffy spoilers though n
    it looks like my fav characters zander n jiles r getting more screen time, so
    thats kewl, so im not going to quit watching buffy like im going to quit
    watching voyager. but u know i heard that kes is coming back to voyager n is
    going to kill that nigger bitch elana so im going to watch to see that. but
    after that im gone just like im gone from law & order. oh well at least law &
    order svu is still going strong. even though they made that nigger bitch a
    regular she does absolutely nothing n is almost never seen so its still ok.
    also my fav character munch from homicide is on the show as well as capt.
    cragen who was my second fav chracter on law & order during the first few
    seasons so ill keep watching. but if they get rid of munch n cragan n add more
    niggers, im gone from that too. i doubt thatll happen though.

  8. I QUEEF IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I hereby announce my entry into the scriptbot's guild. Evidence: Post 1, and Post 2. My script is made with JavaScript, ActiveX, and Windows Script Host. None of that commie open sores Perl or Python. Fuck you communist Lunix cocksuckers!! Pay your fucking $699 already, you goddamn teabaggers!!!

  9. nigger fag nigger fag nigger fag jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fuck you gay niggers
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  10. fuck you all! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that is all.

  11. Article text of byte-sized interview by eet23 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In case of slashdotting: I

  12. Re:Michael is a horrible editor who should be fire by dubdays · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Just what in the hell does this have to do with this article? Plone just happens to be one of the very best content management systems of the open source world. You install it, and it just works...simple as that. You can even install in on Windoze, and it still works great.

  13. Useful advice for slashdotters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


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  14. Re:Michael is a horrible editor who should be fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Seth?
    Is that you?

  15. Re:Michael is a horrible editor who should be fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Every now and then the editors will pick a comment that is offtopic, inflamatory, and critical of the editorial staff (this one is a prime example) and $rtbl everyone who mods it up. This is cruel, unfair, and presumably very effective.

    Guess what... slashdot is THEIR site! If you want to change the system grab a copy of slashcode (or scoop, or nuke, or ...) and register your own domain. I did. The site started to get trolled and crapflooded almost as soon as it got reasonably popular, and I eventually came to the conclusion that slashdot is doing a pretty fair job overall.

    (Posted anonymously since I modded this down, and felt that I should let you all know why.)

  16. VI IS A MANLY EDITOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    vi puts hair on your chest and makes women cream themselves. If you don't use vi, you are a homosexual. Except if you use emacs, then you're practically a pedophile. Only Michael Jackson and R. Kelly use emacs. vim is acceptable but you should know this makes you bi-curious.

  17. Late-night uncaffeinated dyslexia by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    At first glance I read "Plone Founders" as "Phone Pounders." Imagine my reaction.

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  18. Sex is messy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Eww... I've never been able to have sex because it's so messy and disgusting.

    All that saliva and other bodily fluids and the disgusting smell of human flesh.

    1. Re:Sex is messy by jalet · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      ... and the disgusting smell of human flesh.

      Are you French too ?

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    2. Re:Sex is messy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Unscented clean human flesh smells disgusting.

  19. Byte-sized review in a nutshell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    0x42

  20. Re:I am going to sue these people. by martyn+s · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How could this be INSIGHTFUL??? NOTHING on SLASHDOT is insightful. Mod parent down.

  21. Re:I am going to sue these people. by Spoing · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      1. This word sounds like Phone, I am representing my client thomas edison and taking a 100% commision for you trampling all over his IP. My dad from the SCO conned me into doing this.

      Alexander Graham Bell.

    Shhhh! You don't want *him* to be sued too, do you?

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  22. Bell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Biographer's memo

    Judge's Ruling in Bell vs. Meucci court case

    Bell and Meucci

    "Contrary to the implications in HR 269, the courts have looked into Meucci's claims extensively and were very unequivocal in their findings. Meucci was a defendant in American Bell Telephone Co. v. Globe Telephone Co. and others. (The court's findings, reported in 31 Fed. Rep. 729, are attached verbatim.)

    The judge was scathing in his criticism of Meucci's claims and his behavior, and concluded that Meucci was deliberately involved in attempts to defraud investors.

    The question of whether Bell was the true inventor of the telephone is perhaps the single most litigated fact in U.S. history, and the Bell patents were defended in some 600 cases. Bell never lost a case. HR 269 directly contradicts findings of courts in New York, Massachusetts, Louisiana, Ohio, Maryland, and numerous others states. (See among others American Bell Telephone Co. v. Dolbear, 15 Fed. Rep. 448; American Bell Telephone Co. v. Spencer, 8 Fed. Rep. 509, and American Bell Telephone Co. v. Molecular Telephone, 32 Fed. Rep. 214.)

    1. Re:Bell. by marcello_dl · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Your comment is very interesting (now my opinion about Meucci is doubtful), but for your text in bold: who win the patent case vs who actually invents the thing... I can't care less for the former.

      I'd have put emphasis on something like this other excerpt:
      After years of hard work, Bell succeeded in patenting the telephone using a principle of undulating current that had not been understood by other experimenters, including Philip Reis, Antonio Meucci, and Elisha Gray. The numerous courts that looked at the evidence found that the writings of these investigators all indicated that they didn't understand the principle of the telephone, and therefore could not have invented it (not to mention that their devices didn't work.)

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  23. Consider the facts; consider the jihad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:Consider the facts; consider the jihad by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      It's better than those insane priest trolls that gets posted around here. Remember, all the ascii art on slashdot has to make it past the lameness filter.

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