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Copyrighted Haiku Delivers Spam Through Filters

An anonymous reader writes "Remember that antispam company that includes a copyrighted haiku (which I can't quote here due to copyright reasons...) in emails vouching for their nonspaminess and thus bypassing spamfilters? The idea is that a spammer using said haiku to get through spamfilters can be prosecuted under the more stringent copyright laws instead of the weaker antispam ones. Well it seems said haiku has lately been figuring in a large spam run trying to pitch the usual medical remedies for various unfortunate ailments. What do you think? Is it time to start filtering for haikus or will Habeas succeed in thwarting the spam attack?" We mentioned this brilliant anti-spam scheme last April.

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  1. Re:frist port? by wheresdrew · · Score: 4, Funny

    You made the first post
    Hey, mother Anonymous!
    You proud of your son?

  2. screw the copyright - here are the haikus ;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Train of slick spam (a heller mail than mine), now corpus on third rail - Bill Bailey

    art science and law forged together into one synchronicity - Justin S. Houk

    Like oceans of wind Habeas SWE clears Email server jams. - Barbara Kane Pilliod

    As Habeas shows that spam email can be banned with lawsuits at hand - Stanislaus Jaworski

    Messages pile up. Unauthorized, unwanted. Now undelivered. - John H. Lee

    Habeas striving to rid my inbox of spam. Hope it will succeed. - Steve Wilhelm

    Hasty limerick My gift to all Habeas An honor for me. -Sandy Bumgarner

    Habeas Web Page Elegant as your concept Navigating joy. -Sandy Bumgarner

    Incorporeal Dear old friends send mail. As do incorporeal robot pretenders. -James Kobielus

    Too much spam today Sender Warranted Email Spam-free tomorrow -Stacey Irvine

    email said hello, email police jumped on it, now, no one writes me . . . . -Michael Siwinski

    I get no email, any day that ends in y, fixed spam problem though . . . . -Michael Siwinski

    I lost my baby, I lost my bathwater too, might be my filter? -Michael Siwinski

    Awesome find today.. One expanded header full.. Hinted things to come! -Cindy Sue Causey

    Habeas info.. In a header full of Shtuff.. Brought new hope at last! -Cindy Sue Causey

    I built a new soul Using the remaining pieces Of my Habeas -Anthony Oertel

    habeas makes herring out of yucky spam happy penguin -Philipp Droessler

    spam free mail inbox clean like the first spring rain thanks to habeas -Philipp Droessler

    unwanted porn ads and get rich quick nevermore thank you habeas -Philipp Droessler

    1. Re:screw the copyright - here are the haikus ;) by D-Cypell · · Score: 3, Funny

      Psssst... Now quickly, tell 'em about the viagra!

    2. Re:screw the copyright - here are the haikus ;) by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's wrong with you fools
      Last April we wrote haikus
      In response to this

      we get one more chance
      to write haiku for karma
      and we blow it big

      I was hoping to
      waste my valuable work time
      reading horrid verse

    3. Re:screw the copyright - here are the haikus ;) by chrismear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny. I would pronounce that as

      Like Ha-be-as ess dub-ell-you ee

      making for a grand total of nine syllables.

      I'm keen to find out what this strange new one-syllable pronounciation of the letter w is.

  3. Habeus have won once already by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Which would have taken any semi-literate reporter or editor ten second to find on their site. I guess that would have spoiled the illusion of a breaking story though.

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    1. Re:Habeus have won once already by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's just dissembling. The article gives the impression that this is the first time this has happened (implicitely, by not mentioning anything between now and last April). Basic journalistic integrity means not ignoring relevant aspects of a story just because they happen to lessen the impact.

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  4. Interesting by Urkki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's an interesting idea, I really hope it'll work too.

    Unfortunately I think they might need to make it so that they couple it with a white-list, ie *all* mail with their signature that is *not* on their whitelist is assumed to be spam... Otherwise there will just be too much spam specifically intended to make their service useless, actually harmful to their customers... There'll even be fake spam designed to be hard to track, just to force people to filter out any mail with their delivery and thus forcing them out of business :-/

  5. It was always going to happen by Ckwop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Darwinian Selection is the governing rule of spam.. If appending a Haiku makes a message 'fitter' it will survive the slaughter more readily and therefore make it into your inbox more often.. until some realises what's going on and combats it with a new filter.. and then the process starts all over again.. :) For this reason, I think we're going to be fighting spam for a long time to come :) Simon.

    1. Re:It was always going to happen by Ckwop · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah.. the great thing about Spam is that it's pretty obvious what is spam to anybody..
      If it was a criminal offense and went to a jury, the jury could very easily sift ham from spam making the conviction rate very high!
      I believe a law of this nature would be very effective indeed, for this reason..

      Simon

  6. habeas? by visualight · · Score: 2

    This is the first i've heard of this company. I've been to their website, googled a bit and I don't think I like them.

    Is there a filter for "warranted email" from habeas? It seems to me that any email that needs to be warranted must be spam.

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    1. Re:habeas? by singleantler · · Score: 2, Informative

      As far as I can tell, this was aimed mainly at people producing things like e-mail newsletters.

      The Lockergnome newsletters started to use the Habeas haiku a while ago because they had problems when people started marking their sign-up newsletters as spam when they didn't want to receive them any more, rather than using the unsubscribe options. The people on large ISPs that aggregate what people think of as spam were then banning the newsletters from other subscribers.

      Getting yourself unbanned from ISPs usually involves contacting their staff and convincing them that you're not a spammer. In the case of Lockergnome the second part was straightforward, but it was taking up a lot of time, and you only know you've lost subscribers when someone asks when the next newsletter's coming because they haven't received any for a while.

      The Habeas system gives the ISPs an easy way to let through stuff marked with it, as long as Habeas defend their haiku against spammers successfully. So far they've done this, but finding the spammers to enforce their copyright, as they're trying to do in this latest case, isn't always easy/fast.

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  7. Copyright infringement on the internet? by product+byproduct · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unbelievable.

    1. Re:Copyright infringement on the internet? by Rufus211 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the word you are looking for is inconceivable!

    2. Re:Copyright infringement on the internet? by balthan · · Score: 5, Funny

      You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    3. Re:Copyright infringement on the internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      My name is Inigo Montoya. You spammed my father. Prepare to die.

  8. I've gotten a few by ghettoboy22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    About 5 in the past couple days. I noticed the unusual X-headers and finally remembered what it was. Increased the SA score yesterday and now I get none! woot!

    I can see this company being semi-successful in taking spammers to court under copyright lawsuits, however like the article says the latest rash is (not suprisingly) zombied broadband hosts, making their chances of finding someone to sue almost nil.

    1. Re:I've gotten a few by Tripster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      making their chances of finding someone to sue almost nil

      Not quite, the spams are selling a product at some point, someone is somehow receiving payment for doing the advertising and there is where you get them, whether it be the actual spammer or the company being advertised.

      If the spammer is paid per lead there you have them, if they are paid per sale same thing, somehow the money gets to the spammer and there will be a trail to it. Even if they use false aliases they just add fraud to the list, they still have to pick up the money at some point.

      The choice for the companies involved should be disclose the information for the spammer you hired or you get fined or criminally charged instead.

      The spammers could flood the world with false spam runs targetting innocent companies, hiding their true money making runs, but I think those would stand out as the ones selling Viagra/Penis Patches/etc. as they do now.

      We need something and soon, it's a losing battle on the mailservers, I tend to a local dialup ISPs incoming scanning server, they have slowly been losing clients over the years as broadband has taken hold and yet the mail server resource requirements continues to grow at an alarming rate, we turn away 80% of the SMTP connections that come in as it is and still a large percentage of what comes in is still spam. His customers are demanding a solution and the sad thing is the stuff that gets past all the RBL/SpamAssassin checks is the freaking adult stuff most people want rid of the most, especially parents.

    2. Re:I've gotten a few by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 3, Interesting
      If they're found, they'll be lucky if they only get sued.

      Thought -- Imagine if they end up in jail; considering how many inmates' only contact with the outside world is via the Internet, what would be the inside lifespan of a convicted spammer?

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  9. bayesian filters by ddent · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just checked through the mail I've received in the last while, and there is only one newsletter I am on using Habeas -- other than that, I have only received Habeas headers in spam.

    Guess what my bayesian filter is going to start thinking of those headers soon... this could prove to be a problem for them if they don't get things fixed ASAP.

    1. Re:bayesian filters by silentbozo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've already manually kicked the SpamAssassin score for Habeas to -.5. If things don't get better, I may help out the bayes filter by turning Habeas scoring off (set to 0). Habeas should be spitting brass tacks PRwise - every day that goes by without a peep from them just enboldens other spammers thinking about trying the same stunt.

      After all, Habeas was whitelisted because they promised legal action against spammers infringing on their copyrights... well, the spammers are infringing. Where are those spam-eating lawyers we were promised?

  10. Never likely to work by DrPepper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In theory the Habeas scheme is very clever. It's difficult to get spammers under any anti-spam law (where they exist), so change the ballgame so that you can prosecute under copyright law instead.

    Unfortunately though, I suspect it's going to be difficult to track these people down, and even when Habeas do, they will need to mount a prosecution in another country - wherever that happens to be. The spammers may even win given that each country enforces copyright laws differently.

    According to the statement given, the latest version of SpamAssassin should be able to filter these out. We're running what I think is the latest (2.61) and it still seems to be letting them through - thanks to the Habeas mark. I'm beginning to think I should just disable the Habeas rules completely and let these get scorded normally.

    1. Re:Never likely to work by MForster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Note that using the Habeas Headers to filter out such mail may be a copyright infringement, too.

      See also the following Paragraph of the "HABEAS WHITELIST LICENSING AGREEMENT":

      Use of the Habeas Whitelist, or the data contained in the Habeas Whitelist, for the purpose of blocking, rejecting, or otherwise failing to deliver email coming from IP addresses listed on the Habeas Whitelist is expressly prohibited.
    2. Re:Never likely to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to the statement given, the latest version of SpamAssassin should be able to filter these out. We're running what I think is the latest (2.61) and it still seems to be letting them through - thanks to the Habeas mark.

      You have to enable network checks to filter these. Then when someone sends you an email with the Habeas mark, Spamassassin will check to see if the originating IP is on the infringer's list. If it is, then they don't get the credit for using the hiaku.

      This assumes that Habeas has listed the spammer's IP address in thier list. I don't know how long it takes for it to get updated.

    3. Re:Never likely to work by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Insightful
      > I don't want to remove the SA rule for Habeas. They have an interesting and original idea that I would like to see work.

      Likewise.

      The more people who do remove the SA rule for Habeas, however, the more damage this spammer has done to Habeas' customers -- and consequently, to Habeas.

      Every system that starts using X-Habeas-SWE as an automatic "+5.0" (instead of (-5.0)) in their SA scoring mechanism, is another $BIGNUM in damages for which Habeas can sue when this spammer is finally brought to court.

      This is the Habeas test case. Either Habeas is able to enforce its trademark and copyright, and sue this spammer off the face of the earth, or Habeas - the company - dies, due to the efforts of one spammer.

  11. I don't quite see the problem... by ControlFreal · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looking at my spam-box, I find the usual stuff:

    From ukKimble@mailthat.net Tue Jan 13 00:43:36 2004

    X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring

    X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated

    X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm)

    X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm)

    X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE)

    (tm). The sender of this

    X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas

    X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant

    X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this

    X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to .

    Subject: Fwd: V|@gra, Vali(u)m, X(a)n@x. Prescribed Online and Shipped

    ... and finally, the real information as far as I'm concerned in in the last header:

    X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 1.00

    So whether the spam is "legitimate" (is there anything like that?) or not, SpamBayes doesn't seem to have much trouble with it.

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  12. Re:Just... make... me.... UGHRHGH!@~ by JerryP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I keep getting those nonsense-spams, too (as if the other ones made more sense :-)).

    From what I understand they are meant to somehow "poison" the bayesian filters out there so they can't do their job any longer. Maybe someone with more insight into the workings of bayesian filtering can tell us if this is feasible?

  13. Easy to defeat.... by SirFozzie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Joe-Jobs are made to order... Just send a bunch of mail through a rooted proxy, advertising the competition's stuff, and watch Habeas sic the lawyer dogs of war on your competition. You'd laugh all the way to the bank.

    Same type of thing if enough spammers use this trick, the lawyers will be too busy.

    Did Habeas actually think this was going to work? I mean, spammers are willing to do ANYTHING to make sure Joe Public reads their garbage. Constantly changing tactics to evade filters, to write viruses specifically to generate more open proxies to send their garbage through, to Denial of Service attacks against those who try to filter out this stuff, to garbage lawsuits. This is nothing compared to those..

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  14. Check this out by ArcticPuppy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seems they were hacked

    1. Re:Check this out by eclectro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seems they were hacked [valuepointmeds.biz]

      Now they are slashdotted.....spam problem cured.

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    2. Re:Check this out by spurious+cowherd · · Score: 2, Funny
      As was pharmacourt

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    3. Re:Check this out by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny
      Oh man... I hope someone uploads the goatse.cx picture...

      I can imagine the caption too.

      Torn anus? Our V1@gr@ and other medications may help your ailment.

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  15. Can't wait by darnok · · Score: 2, Funny

    Norton Spam Filter 2004, now with haiku filtering! Guaranteed to filter 100% of spam, as long as the Internet doesn't resort to copyright infringement...

    You know I really tried, but I just can't weave a SCO comment into this message...

  16. translation of article header by JimBobJoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The idea is that a spammer using said haiku to get through spamfilters can be prosecuted under the more stringent copyright laws instead of the weaker antispam ones.

    Which should read:

    The idea is that a spammer using said haiku to get through spamfilters can be prosecuted under the more stringent laws that are difficult to enforce instead of the weaker laws which have proven so hard to enforce.

    I'm amused by the idea, but it seems to me that if you couldn't get (find) them under anti-spam laws (especially the newest ones) then how could you get them on copyright laws? Are the new anti-spam laws so lacking in punishment that they pale in comparison to copyright laws?

    1. Re:translation of article header by ezraekman · · Score: 2, Informative
      Are the new anti-spam laws so lacking in punishment that they pale in comparison to copyright laws?

      In short, yes. CAN-SPAM, for the most part, weakened our ability to go after spammers, rather than strengthening it. It takes precedence over existing spam laws, and removes the power from individuals to go after spammers, even if a state law would have allowed them to. Copyright laws give the power back to the people, as it were.

    2. Re:translation of article header by amcguinn · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Copyright laws give the power back to the people, as it were.
      No they don't.

      The flaw with this scheme is that while it tries to stop you from being spammed, you have no recourse if you are spammed. The only party that can act is this essentially uninvolved third party which holds the copyright.

      In other words, it has exactly the same problem you've (correctly) identified in CAN-SPAM.

      Secondly, when it succeeds it's a bad precedent. It eats away at the principle of "reverse engineering for compatibility", that was upheld in the garage-door-opener case. Exactly the same technique could be used to restrict access to other kinds of services. The fact that this instance is in a "good cause" doesn't change the principles.

      It comes back to my first point: the only person with authority to say who accesses my servers is me.

  17. Rule #1. by valentyn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Habeas mark is just a way of making money, it has nothing to do with opt-in or responsible e-mailing. I've tried to contact Habeas in the past about a company that used their mark, while they did not correctly verify their opt-in mailadresses. There was no reply (and IIRC, their web form didn't work at all at the time).

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  18. Copyrighted spam by mutant+mouse · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next time Alan Ralsky will use copyrighted spam to bypass anti-spam filters. He will sue anti-spam companies and blacklists for including his copyrighted fake sender addresses, and also special characteristics and words like 5p4m or V14gr4.

  19. Extra SpamAssassin rules for this batch of spams by mehu · · Score: 5, Informative
    My roommate told me he was getting a bunch of spam last night that was going through SA. I noted that I hadn't. Of course, I got 2 today, and while looking through w/ -t to check everything (it should've been quite obvious), noticed the Habeas X-Headers in there, & found their little notice about this rash of spams. So, rather than just add a score of 0 for HABEAS_SWE, I figured I'd give them a chance & added the following to my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, which takes care of the current rash:
    body PHARMAWHAREHOUSE /pharmawharehouse.biz/
    describe PHARMAWHAREHOUSE Link to pharmawharehouse.biz

    body PHARMACOURT /pharmacourt.biz/
    describe PHARMACOURT Link to pharmacourt.biz

    body VALUEPOINTMEDS /valuepointmeds.biz/
    describe VALUEPOINTMEDS Link to valuepointmeds.biz

    score PHARMAWHAREHOUSE 10
    score PHARMACOURT 10
    score VALUEPOINTMEDS 10
    Looking through my mail, it turns out some of my valid mail actually does contain those headers (would never have noticed them), and a few spams, even w/ the haiku headers, have been blocked by HABEAS_VIOLATOR (RBL: Has Habeas warrant mark and on Infringer List), so the company does appear to be doing its job..
  20. Re:Fair Use by Sircus · · Score: 4, Informative

    bright-ly an-tic-i-pa-ted

    5 syllables in anticipated, for a total of 7 on the line, making it (assuming you pronounce SWE as Swee and ignore the tm) 5-7-5, with a mention of seasons. Seems valid to me...

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  21. next japanese technique by ]ix[ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, so spammers are using haiku. If we only could convince them that harikiri is a spamfilter prevention technique....

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  22. Scaling Up? by windside · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they want to up the ante, maybe they should consider using some of the Emperor's Waka Poetry (more syllables == more boring).

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  23. Disable habeas rule by mattiv · · Score: 5, Informative

    To disable the Habeas rule, edit file $HOME/.spamassassin/user_prefs
    add line

    score HABEAS_SWE 0

    1. Re:Disable habeas rule by ttyv0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This might not work as expected. Since SA assignes -8.0 score for Habeas rules, and default configuration for autolearning ham is -5.0, SA would have learnt that Habeas headers are associated with ham messages. As a result, Bayesian scores for _any_ message with these headers will score very low (50-60% probability even for the spammiest spam).

      I had to manually train SA by feeding it habeas headers and training as spam, until habeas headers were associated with enough spam AND ham messages.

      This balanced things out.

  24. I've said it before, I'll say it again... by Dimensio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's time that we started executing email spammers, and anyone who contracts email spammers.

    Spammers are sociopaths. They don't care that their efforts are always, without exception, criminal. They don't care that people don't want their junk. The best thing to do is to kill them and remove them from society.

    Hopefully someone will soon snap and put a bullet in Alan Ralsky's head, signaling the start of the true anti-spam revolution and doing a great favour to the world.

    1. Re:I've said it before, I'll say it again... by @madeus · · Score: 2, Funny


      Hmm what if we hire a clown to do it? No one would suspect a clown...

  25. a replacement haiku by Schlemphfer · · Score: 3, Funny

    they stole my haiku
    my moment of sartori
    sold fake viagra

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  26. huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm confused by all of this. How is Habeus forcing spammers to use their haiku when sending spam so that they can in turn sue those spammers?!

    I mean, if I'm going to use haiku to get past spam filters, I'll just write my own instead of a copyrighted one. They take all of 30 seconds to write a decent haiku. Am I missing something here?

    More, uh... why would a spammer say "Hey, I'm going to use this COPYRIGHTED HAIKU THAT SPECIFICALLY IS OWNED BY AN ANTI-SPAMMING OUTFIT TO SUE ME OVER" rather than write their own?!

  27. Stop the merchants! by AoT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only way to stop spam is to "affect" the merchants whom outsource to spammers. This will stop the competition between Western merchants and make spamming unprofitable. Everyone! stop the merchants!!!!!

  28. Geeks with basic poetry skillz: Haiku verse form? by Qbertino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any /. geeks with basic poetry 'programming' skills here? I have a question:
    How exactly does the haiku verse form go?
    Like this?:

    ^_ ^_ _
    _ _ _^^_ _
    _ ^^_ ^_

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Additional info
    Here the copyrighted Haiku - I believe the (tm) is part of it. :

    Winter into spring
    brightly anticipated
    like Habeas SWE (tm)

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  29. Attack of Haiku-Resistant Killer Spam by leoaugust · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It just illustrates the lengths the spammers will go to, including taking on Habeas' proven legal capabilities, to distribute their spam.
    It is interesting that they tout their proven legal capabilities rather than "proven" technology. Will it be enough to stop the Attack of Haiku-Resistant Killer Spam. RIAA and SCO are trail blazers in using the legal system to stop ....
    Our patent-pending Sender Warranted Email(TM) service vets messages for legitimacy, guaranteeing that they're not spam.
    Guaranteeing? Sounds like a pretty tall claim now. Not to say what should happen to the pending-patent - a review of the claims perhaps ?
    Adding the IP addresses to the HIL (aka Habeas Blacklist) should not impact the legitimate mailing activities of the owners of the compromised PCs.
    It would be nice if it works well, but I am curious as to how they are going to distinguish from a single IP address whether the email was sent from the compromised PC when it was "alert" or when it was in a "zombie" state.
    Your reporting here of spam you've received with the Habeas Warrant Mark will help us track down and prosecute the responsible parties.
    Habeas - Welcome to the Party. In addition to the call for rounding up a posse, if you need some help from the Feds, write in to the FTC at uce@ftc.gov. Despite having the Federal powers to kick a**, I am not really sure how successful they have been.
    What Can I Do With the Spam in my In-Box? Report it to the Federal Trade Commission. Send a copy of unwanted or deceptive messages to uce@ftc.gov. The FTC uses the unsolicited emails stored in this database to pursue law enforcement actions against people who send deceptive spam email.

    Hey, and I forgot - What happened to the CAN-SPAM ? How long before we have Attacks of the CAN-SPAM-Resistant Killer Spam.

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  30. Copyrighted Haiku by perly-king-69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every work created by you is copyrighted. The act of creating something gives you copyright. For instance, I own the copyright on this post.

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    This sig is inoffensive.

  31. FYI: The spammer's client had been hacked ... by p2sam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://pharmacourt.biz/about.html
    http://pharmaco urt.biz/contact.html

  32. Re:Some spam legitimate? by Dimensio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although I despise spam, clearly the CAN-SPAM bill would indicate that there are some situations in which unsolicited e-mail will be sent in the future that will be commonly accepted.

    No, it only indicates that a sufficient number of Congress slime balls were bribed by the criminal outfit known as the Direct Marketers Assocation. Email spam is, and always will be, theft. Spammers deserve death, without exception and regardless of any DMA-crafted "rules" that they claim to be following. Since spammers are always fundamentally dishonest, you can bet that they're not even following those rules.

    It's quite likely that we will learn to live with some forms of unsolicited e-mail on the Internet rather than eliminate it entirely, especially given the personality types that always seem to chase the fast buck without regard to other people's expense.

    This is why I advocate execution of email spammers. Kill the spammers, and you kill the problem. Header forging becomes irrelevant if any email spam, regardless of how or why its sent, merits death.

    Until it is legal to kill spammers, or until I finally snap and give Alan Ralsky, Eddie (or Eddy) Marin and the rest of the group what they truly deserve, I will respond to each and every junk email that I recieve with a nasty slew of complaints to the hosting ISPs for the sending IP address and for any website or email account involved. Should the spam continue, my complaints will only increase in number and frequency. I don't care what laws they claim to follow, spam is unethical, fraudulent and it amounts to stealing.

  33. Make sure your report to Habeas by p2sam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since they will add the offender's on to the blacklist, make sure you report that spam at http://www.habeas.com/report. That way the next unfortunate receiver of that spam would have adjust their score accordingly.

    See: http://www.habeas.com/supportBlackList.html

  34. Haiku by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny


    You beat the filter
    You have viagra for sale
    Now taste the bullet

    --
    Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  35. Legally dubious by Mammothrept · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK, I hate spam as much as the next homicidally enraged Slashdot reading spamee. Habeas' business plan though is legally dubious at least with respect to copyright law. The trademark thing, though, just might fly.

    The purpose of copyright law is to protect original works of expression. There are also built in limitations the most notable of which is fair use. There is no bright line definition of fair use but quoting a few lines of Haiku hardly seems unfair. The attempt by a private party to turn copyright law into a de facto anti-spam law is not likely to be upheld. Congress wrote a copyright law. Congress also wrote an anti-spam law. If Congress wanted to use copyright law to stop spam, it presumably could have figured out how to write such a law. It did not.

    The trademark angle is more promising. The purpose of trademark law is to identify the source of goods in trade. Insofar as Habeas' goods are emails that it warrants are free of spam, it would be a trademark infringement for another company to identify the source of their spam as Habeas.

  36. Re:Extra SpamAssassin rules for this batch of spam by mutende · · Score: 2, Informative
    body PHARMAWHAREHOUSE /pharmawharehouse.biz/
    describe PHARMAWHAREHOUSE Link to pharmawharehouse.biz

    Please note that there is not such domain as pharmawharehouse.biz. Habeas has missspelt the name on the web page, the proper domain is pharmawarehouse.biz.

    --
    Unselfish actions pay back better
  37. Re:Just... make... me.... UGHRHGH!@~ by dossen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Another way these nonsense spams work is, in my experience, by having two different MIME parts, a plaintext part of random words, and an html part with the actual spam content. Since I don't use html mail, it works rather poorly on me, but I did once take a look at the html part, and it was formated text, not random nonsense like in the plaintext part.

  38. Re:Fair Use by Sheriff+Fatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like autumn harvest,
    Writing haikus correctly,
    Is very diffic

    --
    -- Open Source: It's mad, but you don't have to work here to help.
  39. Why should the spammers worry about copyright? by MROD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now, we've seen spammers use a copyrighted poem in their spam headers. I'd like to know how much they're worried about being taken to court about this. After all, they're not exactly on the right side of the law already...

    (1) They subvert other people's computers to relay spam: illegal in most juristictions.
    (2) They send out viruses and worms to break into other people's computers: illegal in most juristictions.

    So, if they're already doing two illegal things, why should they worry about a third?

    --

    Agrajag: "Oh no, not again!"
    1. Re:Why should the spammers worry about copyright? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed... and it's something that I think a lot of folks miss. Creating yet another law will not stop X, but it might make it easier to prosecute once X has happened. However, whenever you create a new law to prosecute X, there's a high chance of the system being subverted to also allow Y and Z to be prosecuted, or weirdness where X doesn't get addressed at all.

      Spam, in particular, is a combination of technical (SMTP is too trusting), economic (receiver pays the majority of the costs), and social (willing to do anything, don't care about existing laws).

      On the technical side, there's small rays of hope. Reverse-MX proposals (SPF, LMAP) or Yahoo!'s domain-keys are trying to eliminate the Mack-truck sized loophole that allows domains to be forged and companies to be joe-job'd. This should also put a dent in the e-mail worm/spam problem or at least force those machines to route e-mail through a (likely) better-administered SMTP server. Bayesian seems to be working well still and has a bit of life left (multi-word / markov bayesian is probably next). Whitelisting of domains gets easier once the forging issue is taken care of. IP blacklists are still around (don't care for them personally, like hunting flies with a shotgun). We may even see e-mail get as far as requiring public-key signatures along with web-of-trust. I'd say that all e-mail will be required to be encrypted to each recipient's private key, but gov'ts would probably nix that. Individually, none of these technical proposals make much of an impact, but each one closes up yet another loophole.

      Social-side I'm not sure of what is going to make a difference. Too many countries involved with different social mores or laws (or lack thereof).

      Economic sanction is possible, but currently it's easy-as-sin to joe-job your competition - so there's a high risk of false-accusations. Plus, it's easy to move the stuff off-shore and out of reach of authorities. However, as some of the technical means come into mainstream it will hopefully drive spammer costs up (having to register new domains all the time, etc.).

      --
      Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
  40. pharmacourt.biz hacked? by stevenp · · Score: 2, Informative

    Has someone of the slashdotters already hacked the pharmacourt.biz site?
    This is what I find at their products page: We are some stupid spammers!!

    1. Re:pharmacourt.biz hacked? by l0wland · · Score: 2, Informative
      If you had read the thread from the beginning, you might have noticed this reaction. Also the contents of the about- and contact-pages have been altered.

      BTW, as you are implying, this does not necissarily mean that one of the Slashdot-readers is responsible.

      --

      "Honey, I feel a certain distance between us..." "Really? A 31ms ping ain't that bad..."
  41. Haiku in the fight for spam? by mabu · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Habeas plan
    Most ineffective effort
    Ever to stop spam

    (c) 2004 Mabu
    ALL RIGHTS RESERVED!

  42. Re:Didn't do a very good job... by Zocalo · · Score: 2, Funny
    No, no, no...

    The *proper* way to do it is to delete everything from the server *except* for their customer's credit card and any other personal details. Those you put into the index.html file for the entire world to see and use as they see fit. It kills two birds with one stone you see; the spammer gets bitten, but more importantly a whole bunch of people might think twice before responding to a spam which is likely to be far more effective in the long run.

    --
    UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
  43. Re: Here's some Haiku for Habeas. by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oops.. .forgot my linebreaks

    Like a dying wind
    Habeas screams to the sky
    But they're still worthless


    Experience says
    The Habeas Haiku means
    "This Message is Spam"

    Habeas Haiku
    To some, touching poetry
    Me, I filter it.

  44. Stupid construct by peope · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The haikus do not have any real creative value. They exist for a purpose I do not believe the legislators in most countries had in mind when they wrote the laws.

    People are not interested in the value of the haikus. People are just using it as a key to check for clean mail.

    Using copyright law in this context is imho pervertion of the law.

    Purpose might or might not be an issue for the law depending on country.

    Just give the spammers jailtime for spamming.

  45. Re:Just... make... me.... UGHRHGH!@~ by rawshark · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe this would help?
    The Spammer's Compendium

  46. Look at the dates fool. by fred87 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Main article refers to a spam attack started in 2004, your link refers to a spam attack in 2003, so i find it unlikely that they are referring to the same case unless habeus have a time machine.

  47. Spam and AI by gbulmash · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A bunch of neat scientific advances came out of the space program (Mercury / Apollo) because necessity is the mother of invention. There were very specific problems that needed to be solved and inordinate amounts of brainpower were thrown at solving them.

    Now comes the spam wars... Once again, a specific problem that must be solved: "How do we develop a method of letting legitimate mail get to us while filtering out spam with a minimum of error?" We don't have the government throwing billions at it, but because it affects the general public, there's an inordinate amount of businesses, academics, and hobbyists throwing brainpower at it.

    Despite all the talk about keys and legal threats, verifications and warrants, they just provide hurdles to be overcome, not true barriers to spamming.

    But you could train a person to screen your mail with a better level of efficiency than any spam filter on the market today. And that person could catch new spam tricks before they ever got through to you.

    As we continuously try to develop better and better filtering systems, I believe that the war against spam could well be be our most prolific source of advances in artificial intelligence. Spammers will throw (purchased) brainpower at coming up with ways to defeat filters and filters will have to get smarter in response.

    I know, I know... You could say that I'm looking for the silver lining in this hailstorm of unsolicited pitches. But really, am I so far off? We've got a problem, we're throwing resources at solving it... like the space race, like the arms race, technologies will come out of the spam race that will have amazing implications for our lives.

    I hate spam. I would love to be left alone in a room with a spammer, a car battery, and some jumper cables. But at the same time, it's sort of neat to be watching this battle progress.

    Greg

  48. Don't be foolish... by chuckw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be foolish to turn off the habeas checking in spamassassin, or otherwise filter out based on the habeas mark for 2 reasons:

    1) Habeas has shown a commitment to actually *EXPEND* The resources to go after spammers. If you dimish the value of the habeas mark by filtering out email with their mark in it, then they have nothing to protect. I personally don't have time to go after spammers. Anyone who has a proven track record of winning against spammers (which habeas has) should be encouraged!

    2) There is a large number of users who have added the habeas mark to their e-mail headers based on the assumption that it was a protected mark that would ensure their mail *WASN'T* filtered out. If you start filtering on that mark you *WILL* falsely filter out a lot of legitimate mail.

    A previous poster named Mehu, posted an excellent solution to the problem if you're using spamassassin:

    "So, rather than just add a score of 0 for HABEAS_SWE, I figured I'd give them a chance & added the following to my ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, which takes care of the current rash:

    body PHARMAWHAREHOUSE /pharmawharehouse.biz/
    describe PHARMAWHAREHOUSE Link to pharmawharehouse.biz

    body PHARMACOURT /pharmacourt.biz/
    describe PHARMACOURT Link to pharmacourt.biz

    body VALUEPOINTMEDS /valuepointmeds.biz/
    describe VALUEPOINTMEDS Link to valuepointmeds.biz

    score PHARMAWHAREHOUSE 10
    score PHARMACOURT 10
    score VALUEPOINTMEDS 10

    Looking through my mail, it turns out some of my valid mail actually does contain those headers (would never have noticed them), and a few spams, even w/ the haiku headers, have been blocked by HABEAS_VIOLATOR (RBL: Has Habeas warrant mark and on Infringer List), so the company does appear to be doing its job.."


    -Chuck

    --
    *Condense fact from the vapor of nuance*
    1. Re:Don't be foolish... by kindbud · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you start filtering on that mark you *WILL* falsely filter out a lot of legitimate mail.

      Incorrect. This spam was the first to reach my site bearing any Habeas mark. The Habeas mark, to my knowledge, has not kept any spam out of my co-worker's inboxes, nor has it made sure that any wanted mails made it through the filters. Our sole experience with the Habeas mark has been this infringing spammers using it to bypass our filter. We bounce 400 spams/minute with scores over 10, just to give you an idea of how much mail we get, and therefore how rare a properly used Habeas mark really is at our site.

      The Habeas rule stays off. I will not trust 3rd parties to tell me who is playing nice. I will not use negative-scored public-knowledge rules anymore, either.

      --
      Edith Keeler Must Die
  49. I decided to read a spam.. by Epistax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I decided to actually read a spam yesterday. What I found was amazing: Almost every other word was not spelled correctly. Random characters seemed to be inserted throughout. Now I need to ask myself, why wasn't this picked up by spam filters? How much more obvious can you get?

    1) is the subject matter adult? yes
    2) is it written like a five year old? yes

    This doesn't seem that hard to me.

    1. Re:I decided to read a spam.. by dspyder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you're using spamassassin, check out a really neat set of rules called "Popcorn, Backhair & Weeds" written by one Jennifer Wheeler. Various versions are available on Chris' SA Rules Emporium. She's got a new one out called ChickenPox that seems to do a similar thing with punctuation.

      You RegEx fans should check it out... it's a masterpiece!

      --D

      p.s. Define for me (in terms a computer can follow), what it means to write like a 5 year old.

  50. Re:Fair Use by Derkec · · Score: 2, Informative

    Proper haiku is defined by the number of Japanese characters involved. The whole 5-7-5 concept is a rough approximation that they give to secondary school teachers who enforce it to teach students discipline. If you're writing in English, you can drop the 5-7-5 nonsense, try to approximate that a bit and write some poetry. More important to haiku is the use of nature imagery used to discuss the human condition. That being rather tough, and difficult to grade, it's not a big focus for most jr. high or high school students.

  51. You mean stop the fraud by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure how serious you are, but since even a stopped clock is right twice a day I'll have to agree at least with the literal interpretation of your posting.

    If law enforcement generally were applied to the sellers of spamvertised products, spam would become far less of a menace. Most spamvertised products are prima faciae illegal (ie, you can't get prescription medications without a prescription), false advertising (a sugar pill won't give you a 12" penis) or are actually just fraud schemes to take money and not deliver a product.

    Tracking down email senders is extremely difficult due to header forgery and the use of zombies and other kinds of compromised systems. But just about all spam will take a credit card, which should enable tracking of a financial trail to the sellers. If the Feds would make a RICO case out of it, they could ensnare just about anyone with their finger in the pie, including the spammers, who I'm sure would be fingered by sellers caught in the net.

    A few RICO cases that put the squeeze on ISPs, banks handling their financial transactions, spammers, and most importantly, sellers and suppliers of these products would have a pretty significant effect on the whole "scam 'n' spam" business environment. I think there's probably some otherwise legitimate players (ISPs, banks) participating in this field behind the scenes, and some negative exposure in a few of these cases could close the door to a lot of "operators" who need access to the legitimate economy in order to operate.

    It's pretty clear that nobody likes spam, but the fact that there have been no high-profile FBI/Treasury/Commerce investigations into some of these things really puzzles me. It may be that the investigations have been done but this angle was deemed not fruitful (doubtful), resources aren't available due to the war on terror (more likely, but not entirely credible), or political pressure has been applied by heavy corporate players to keep their shady business segments viable (somewhat conspiratorial, but believable) -- yet even these theories don't explain the lack of credible, visible efforts on the part of Federal law enforcment to crack down on internet fraud.

  52. Re:Geeks with basic poetry skillz: Haiku verse for by stormhair · · Score: 2, Informative

    Argh

    Five for the first line
    Seven for the second line
    Then five for the last

  53. The latest big spam technique... by devphil · · Score: 4, Interesting


    ...is not haiku or any other kind of rearrangment of normal speech. What's pouring right through my filters are messages consisting of just a half-dozen lines of random English words. No sentences, no advertisements, no links, nothing but everyday words.

    It's a fairly clever attempt to poison the Bayesian filters. Either I associate these words with spam and risk losing legit email, or I loosen things up and let more real spam slide through. It's frustrating because there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.

    [insert long ranting call for vigilante bullet-to-the-head-style action here]

    --
    You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
  54. Most spam is already actionable by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The FTC's study of false claims in spam has already established that most spam is legally actionable under current law. Adding a copyrighted haiku doesn't help much.

    Under the CAN-SPAM act, ISPs can sue. If you read the definition of an "ISP" in the act, it's clear that a mail processing service like SpamCop would qualify. What's needed is a paid service like SpamCop that files at least one high-profile lawsuit a month, increasing to one a week as volume builds up. That would make a dent.

  55. Large by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's definitely a large spam run. These spams use forged "From" addresses, and one of the domains they are forging is owned by my employer, and all mail to non-existent addresses ends up in a mailbox I handle. It's getting 10000 bounce messages per day from these spams.

    When I checked on net.admin.net-abuse.sightings, there are several hundred of these reported, and NONE of them use our domain. Checking a few at random, it looks like they are using many many many forged domains, so we are just getting the bounces from a tiny fraction of these these.

  56. WTF are you talking about? by Burning1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    That passage was related to the Habeas Whitelist and not the Habeas Haiku . It is a License Agreement and has nothing to do with copyright infringment . Furthermore, it only specifically covers situations where people attempt to blacklist sites on Habeas' whitelist ; somthing no sane admin would ever want to do.

    Please tell me you just made a mistake, and aren't smoking some really, really, really strong crack.

  57. Defended against already by xant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't really "poison" the filters, because there are just wayyyyyy too many posible words for this to work. Bayesian filters assign a huge probability of spamminess to every word in a spam email and an exceedingly low prbability of spamminess to every word in a non-spam email during training. If a word appears in both, it just averages out. Over time a given word will appear only once in a spam email with a bunch of random words, and many times in non-spam emails, and therefore after some time (or even pre-emptively) the good words will be recognized as good. The more training, the better; poisoning has little chance of success as long as there's at the number of good and bad emails going in are within an order of magnitude of each other.

    That's not to say the technique doesn't help the spammers in the short run; it probably gets past less sophisticated and trained filters.

    --
    It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.