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iCal 1.5.2 Released

cigaar writes "iCal 1.5.2 has been released by Apple. You can download it through Software Update. From iCal's Help page: 'iCal 1.5.2 gives you the option of viewing your calendar, event, or To Do information in a drawer or in a separate window (using the Detach Info command in the Window menu), and includes improved alarm performance and other reliability enhancements.'"

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  1. Two-way calendar sync by David+McBride · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been playing with iCal and WEB-DAV servers recently for work, and I really like iCal. But one thing I discovered today is that the synchronization doesn't run both ways -- a subscribed can't updated a calendar that someone else has published.

    Which is a shame, because it would be a lot better than the ad-hoc mechanisms I've got right now.

  2. Detaching Drawers! by Steveftoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple should make detaching a drawer part of the OS! For those of you that like drawers, great, but some people like them to be floating. They are first class windows to the OS so it would be possible without re-writing the drawer code.

    Well, maybe on second though they should rather create a sub-class of drawer that is detachable and thus all FUTURE drawers could be detachable.

    1. Re:Detaching Drawers! by Steveftoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you've used a mac then you would know that neither do the developers that use them. Check out Tog's articles ffor references to how bad people can make drawers. (Quickeys for example)

      Drawers are good when used as a supplement to the existing interface, but only on windows that should never be full screen. iCal is a perfect example of an application that people like to have be full screen. The Mail window is a perfect example of an application that when made full screen is silly and too wide. Thus drawers are nice in mail and crappy in iCal.

      When they moved the interface to being in a drawer in the new iCal somepeople couldn't find the controls for it because their calendar was full screen! How great is a drawer then?

      Pop-up floating pallettes are nice sometimes but can be overused. Drawers are one solution to this because they allow you to put the controls you need on the window rather then have them floating, unattached. But everyone has their own workflow and more options are rarely a bad thing.

      If all developers made perfect drawers and windows then we wouldn't be having this conversation, but since they don't we have to give the user more options.

      At least that's my opinion. Why again shouldn't drawers be detachable? Because the programmer is always right?

  3. Show ONLY todo's? by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is there any way using iCal to show ONLY the to-do list? I'm currently using Stickies for a to-do list and I'd like something more useful.

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  4. Re:I prefer no drawers :) by rlowe69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For those of us with small screens, having to leave "room" for a drawer to pop out visibly is a waste. If I make iCal the width of the screen without the drawer, the drawer will just pop out off the screen and I'll have to move the iCal window over just to see it, losing the left side in the process. This is annoying.

    I want to maximize the width of iCal so I can read more on the calendar. I can't do that if I need to leave space for a drawer to pop out.

    Now, you could make an argument that having the detachable window is better for screen 'real estate' as you can leave just a little piece of it visible, behind the iCal main window, and click it to bring it forward.

    IMO, the popup window is much better because now I don't have to resize or move the iCal window whenI want to see the info. By the way, you can pop up and close it with Command-I, which is a lot easier than mousing over to a visible piece of it.

    Unless you have the horizontal space to pop out the drawer without it going offscreen, I think detachable window is easier to use. But you're right, we're entitled to our own opinions.

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  5. Re:I prefer no drawers :) by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    But of course...

    It's your perception.

    Perception is integral to the use of any GUI.

    I believe the key is an individual's dependence (or lack thereof) on various perceived elements, that is really at work.

  6. Re:Umm... by Maserati · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about: Apple fixed an interface problem ? A major software company responded to user feedback ? A *really* robust iCal might someday interoperate with Entourage...

    No, none of that is news. Some of it is speculation.

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  7. Re:I prefer no drawers :) by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Perception is integral to the use of any GUI....I believe the key is an individual's dependence (or lack thereof) on various perceived elements, that is really at work.

    I completely agree with this statement. I only point out that one's impression of a certain UI implementation as wrong doesn't necessarily make it so. Sometimes a method is demonstrably inferior. In this case, there are strong points for both drawer and windoid methods, and a strong split amongst the userbase as to which is appropriate -- the correct thing for Apple to do is to offer a choice. Which is of course what they did.

    I find that often a UI method is strongly preferred by a user if it is the first way they have been exposed to. Alt-tab switching is a good example, or the endless vi vs. emacs debates.

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  8. Re:Umm... by mbbac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, a really robust Entourage might one day interoperate with iCal. iCal already uses an established iCalendaring standard and can already use Outlook's iCalendar files. I'm not sure what Entourage uses.

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