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Toyota Offers Automatic Parallel Parking Option

dstone writes "For drivers who can't parallel park very well, relief is available in Japan. Toyota Motor Corp. is offering a $2,200 option package for its Prius (a gas-electric hybrid car) that includes a computer imaging system which stuffs your car into parallel parking spaces on demand. The driver must manually initiate the process and control the brakes while the car steers in reverse. Some might say if you can't master parallel parking, perhaps you shouldn't be driving. However, the article at Modbee.com points out that in Japan, streets are jammed and parallel parking spaces can be ruthlessly small. 80% of Prius customers have opted for this package. But will the car plug the meter when I run out of time?"

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  1. Re:Why the brake need? by dwhittington · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then Toyota would fight over who was negligent when the thing crashs and the airbags deploy.

  2. Large Cars as Status Symbols by Elanor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What pricks my curiosity is why large cars are such a status symbol. In a city like New York, you have these massive limos that must be impossible to park (I guess that's why you get one with a driver, so they can drive around the block while you entertain yourself). London seems to be riddled with big ol' 4wd monsters that never even see a national route, let alone go off-road. Admittedly the Smart car is a bit uglee, but if you're only going to be averaging 30mph and need to park to a short order, seems a sensible option...

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  3. Re:No thanks... by ThogScully · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What do manual locks and windows have to do with anything? You can't possible tell me that something is lost with the convenience of pressing a button to lower your window or pressing a button to lock and unlock doors.
    -N

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  4. Lawsuit waiting to happen in the US by sllim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know nothing about lawsuits in Japan, so this may not be a factor.

    But when I read the article (bad slashdotter, BAD!) and came to the part that said 'there is no onboard object recognition, so there is nothing that is going to stop you from running over something in the parking space.' I thought, oooohhhh boy.

    I don't think this will make it to the US for this reason. If it does, then the first time someone runs over someone elses dog all hell is gonna break loose. People are gonna be saying that it is in fact Toyota's fault that they ran over the dog.

    Stupid lawsuits, stupid people.

    Come to think of it wew may never get that feature in the US no matter how good of a job they do.

    Lets say a company does make a decent object recognition package for the car, is it possible for them to actually be 100 percent sure that the car will recognize an object in 100 percent of situations that come along?

    Cause as soon as that figure moves to 99 percent then some doofushead is gonna argue that the object recognition feature takes the responsibility of running something over out of there hands and into the car manufacturers hands.

    Nah, we will never see it on our shores.

    1. Re:Lawsuit waiting to happen in the US by AvantLegion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Cause as soon as that figure moves to 99 percent then some doofushead is gonna argue that the object recognition feature takes the responsibility of running something over out of there hands and into the car manufacturers hands.

      But won't it? I mean, once we get to the point where parking is achieved by pressing the "Park" button, isn't there a reasonable expectation of such a system not laying tread to the neighbor's pooch? Or ramming the car behind you?

      When you offer automation, it has to come with a level of reliability and safety that the manufacturer could be held accountable if failure leads to damage.

      Who do you blame if you set your cruise control at 65, and your car accelerates to 130 and causes a wreck? You didn't HAVE to use the automation, so does the blame lie on you? Or did you have a reasonable expectation of non-failure? Or at least non-damaging failure? It's one thing if the cruise control stops working, and your car starts to coast, forcing you to manually gas it to continue driving. It's quite another thing if the cruise control takes the car at incorrect and dangerous speeds. Likewise, if an automated parking sequence fails by refusing to finish the sequence, then you manually park yourself. But if it fails by ramming something, then would you not be in the same realm as the possessed cruise control?

    2. Re:Lawsuit waiting to happen in the US by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But won't it? I mean, once we get to the point where parking is achieved by pressing the "Park" button, isn't there a reasonable expectation of such a system not laying tread to the neighbor's pooch? Or ramming the car behind you?

      Do airliner pilots have to monitor the aircraft when it's on autopilot? Why?

      When you offer automation, it has to come with a level of reliability and safety that the manufacturer could be held accountable if failure leads to damage.

      There is no first-gen device that comes with the level of reliability and safety you're requiring, and very few machines every achieve it. Remember, even the best servers only reach 6 9s, and they don't have any moving parts.

      Who do you blame if you set your cruise control at 65, and your car accelerates to 130 and causes a wreck? You didn't HAVE to use the automation, so does the blame lie on you?

      Bad example. If your car set on cruise control goes too fast for some reason, you're sitting right there to hit the brake, just like you're supposed to do in this parking gadget. Last I heard, cruise control systems were required to shut down upon brake application. Another reason your example is bad is that even with cruise control, you still have to steer the car. That means the car is only doing part of the work. Just like this parking device. It's only doing part of the work. You still have to watch it.

      Yeah, sure, one day I expect that cars will have automation systems reliable enough that you can sit in your car, spin the driver's seat around, screw your girlfriend, and speed along on the highway safely at 200+ mph. Or we'll have a better system of transportation. In any case, we're still in the very early days of automation as far as automobiles are concerned, and it's far too early to expect perfection while we're still laying the foundation.

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  5. Re:What about rfid parking meters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The point of having a meter is to keep parking slots open. You have a maximum limit (usually 4 hours or so) after which you are required to move your car so as to free up the parking space for someone else.

    Installing a pay-as-you-park meter completely defeats the purpose of the parking meter because it encourages you to leave your car in the space indefinitely with no penalty for failing to yield the space after a reasonable amount of time.

  6. one word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    pedestrians

  7. Re:No thanks... by ComaVN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except, of course, when your faulty car cruise-controls you into a lake and the electronics go out. Now, where's that hammer?

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  8. Re:FUNNY??? How about -1 Sexist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I don't think he was being funny. His posting history doesn't lead one to such a conclusion.

  9. People who need this shouldn't be driving? by Kalewa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Standard response to anything that makes something easier (or just require less skill). A good GUI? If you need it you shouldn't be on a computer. Automatic transmission? For sissies who can't drive stick.

    Truth is, a lot of drivers out there are probably a hazard to the rest of us, but anything that assists them and makes them less of a hazard is a good thing in my opinion.

    Just because you're good at parallel parking, manual shifting, and using a command line doesn't mean that anyone who can't do those things well is inferior.

  10. Re:How about automatic pilot? by PD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The left lane is A passing lane, not THE passing lane. If you're not passing, you should be in the right lane. Middle lanes should also be passing. Don't go slower than the right lane in the middle lane.

  11. More help needed by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One of my friends cant really handle forward parking! let alone reverse it takes about 10-20 backwards and forwards cycles to get in and im not exagerating! (or spell checking) I think slowly bit by bit these minor things will get replaced by automatic systems until it all pretty much goes auto.

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  12. Re:Why the brake need? by haroldhunt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Err... no, it doesn't have a traditional CVT. It has what the marketroids like to call an "electrically controlled CVT". What does that mean? No cones, no belts, no clutches, no shifting, no nothing. It is implemented using a single planetary gearset (normal automatic transmission have a few sets of planetary gears), one small (10 HP) motor generator, one large (40 to 60 HP, depending on 2003 or 2004) motor generator, and the internal combustion engine. The small MG is allowed to freewheel sometimes, sometimes it generates electricity, and other times it is actually driven to provide a different gear ratio at the expense of a little electrical energy. Reverse gear you ask? Doesn't have one; instead, it drives in reverse only via electrical energy, which is used to spin the large MG backwards (it is attached to the output of the engine/transmission combo so it can directly drive the wheels while freewheeling the smaller MG).

    The Prius (especially the 2004) is really the nerds wet dream come true. It is chock full of technology that can't be had in another car for the same price (some of it can't be had at *any* price). The best thing about the electrically controlled transmission is that it is unlikely to need servicing since it has no parts that transition from being in contact to out of contact and back; this transmission is always engaged and has no friction surfaces that will wear out (like clutches).

    It really is a cool car and it probably more complex than you think; you should check it out.

    Harold