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Morpheus Infiltrates Other P2P Networks

An anonymous reader writes "Morpheus was the number one post-Napster P2P app until Sharman Networks took over KaZaa and got them bumped off the FastTrack network. Now Morpheus is back on FastTrack, according to MP3NewsWire, tapping into it and the other leading networks through a beta of the NEOnet technology in the just-released version 4. Thomas Mennecke over at Slyck speaks more about it with Michael Weiss, CEO of StreamCast Networks." prostoalex also points to a ZDNet article discussing this new version of Morpheus, and notes the Download.com warning that: "Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."

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  1. "Third-party applications" my ass... by kcbrown · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."

    Why would anybody ever download something bundled with the crap referred to here, much less install it? Such "third-party applications" make the main product worse than useless.

    I'm surprised there isn't a completely open-source, distributed P2P filesharing application widely available to people. Such a thing, when advertised as been spyware/adware-free, would likely be a huge hit. But I guess the "distributed" problem is a tough one, and it's the only way to avoid having to host some sort of master server (which would be expensive).

    BitTorrent is probably the closest thing we have so far, but it doesn't provide an index or anything along those lines...

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  2. Increased network traffic? by boer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some 70 to 80 per cent of Internet traffic is already P2P related. I wonder if a sizable portion of this is pure query traffic. I would assume that applications such this one that support multiple networks would be cause for increased query traffic all around. Therefore in my opinion it's hard to say if this development is a good thing at all.

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  3. Re:Two keys for any successful new P2P client by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    b) Have some sort of way to filter out the fake files put out by record companies and the RIAA. Check files, particularly MP3s, for filler, or repetitions of strings (the usual cause of noise on fake MP3s). Make users able to chose the actual content that they are after. Perhaps also blacklisting of unreliable users from a user level?

    In other words, make it as simple as possible for you to infringe on someone else's copyright.

    I tell you what, why don't you write such an app with such a filter and see how long it takes for RIAA and the courts to come down on you like a ton of bricks for deliberately designing a tool that a) stops them from posting their own material, whilst, b) helping people infringe on their copyrights as easily as possible.

    Writing a P2P application isn't against the law, but I bet designing a P2P application that uses such measures to intentionally block RIAA (or any other copyright holder) from trying to track down individuals that are wantonly infringing on their copyrights will be severely frowned upon by the courts.

    Contrary to what you might believe, you don't have a right to infringe on copyrights. And the Napster, etc court decisions decided you can't use the "unlimited friends" defence to protect your ass. If you want the latest Britney Spears/Eminem/Outkast/whoever CD then you can pay for it.

    Now watch me get flamed to hell and back by half of Slashdot nation. Like I care about karma: if I did I wouldn't be writing this post, would I?

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  4. RIAA by ArbiterOne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just face it... P2P isn't going away. P2P clients are like Whack-A-Mole: As soon as you smack (sue, crash, buy out, whatever) one, three more pop up.
    So, RIAA, do like the government strategy : If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
    I'm waiting for the RIAA 'official' P2P network that allows record labels to profit from the spyware ads on a user's machine. Not like I'd use it, but... it's a better (and more profitable) idea than suing 15-year-olds. And it makes the RIAA look like the good guy!

  5. Re:Two keys for any successful new P2P client by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "In other words, make it as simple as possible for you to infringe on someone else's copyright."

    Actually, no. This makes it even easier to prevent copyright infringement, its all about who controls the blacklists. Really though, these features are just useful, just like a gun is useful. Whether its used for 'good' or for 'bad' is all perspective, but either way its got use.

    "Like I care about karma: if I did I wouldn't be writing this post, would I?" As someone who hit the karma cap with 'goatse.cx' in their name, I can tell you this is the typical counterculture troll that gets modded insightful by the same people that listen to Limp Bizkit. (this now being the counter-counter-culture troll that gets +3 informative, but then -4 for this amendment.)

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  6. P2P App recommendations? by CdBee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recently saw "Poisoned" being used on a Mac OSX box and it brought home to me the generally sucky nature of P2P on Windows I had been using KaZaA + DietK but switched to a recent build of KaZaAliteK++ which is much leaner and more friendly, but can't match Poisoned's multinetwork, spyware-and-adware-free smoothness Which P2P apps would /.ers recommend for the Windows platform?

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  7. Re:legal? by julesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how is it legal and supports FastTrack network at the same time?

    It is perfectly legal to use the FastTrack network without authorisation from Sharman... they don't own the computers that constitute the network, they just own the software that is usually used to run it.

    If you write your own re-implementation by reverse engineering KaZaA to determine how it works, that is perfectly legal. For the same reason that, for instance, Wine is a perfectly legal piece of software.

    So, basically, Morpheus has a re-implementation of FastTrack from scratch.

    What is possibly a little concerning is that it appears to be a download-only implementation...

  8. Illegal item breaks in illegally by redhawk1044 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't funny how an application that distributes mp3 illegally is now breaking into other applications that do the same thing, which instead of doing only one illegal action it is now doing two

  9. Re:Theft by mikechant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OK I'll bite. Copyright violation *is not theft*. Find me a piece of legislation (not an RIAA press release) that says it is and I'll buy you a large virtual drink... Morally speaking, in your universe it may be theft. But not in most people's. Try asking a random selection of 1000 people the following question: "Am I a thief if I make a tape of a friend's (copyrighted) CD?" (this is a form of copyright violation most people, even not computer literate, can understand and relate to). If you can honestly say that more than a small percentage will agree that you're a thief, then I think you're deluded. So: If you do it, then you *are* morally a thief since you believe yourself to be. The rest of us aren't.

  10. I used to love Morpheus until... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...I found IRC. Of course now that many of the IRC operators have banned file xfers, it's a lot harder to find the things I liked (mostly recorded TV shows that I missed like Sliders, Enterprise, Voyager, etc...).

    Now this?
    "Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."

    When the average person ELECTS to use something even after reading this warning, you can be assured that the Internet has really and truly become McNet. (McDonald's reference for those of you unfamiliar with it) Hmmm... now that I think about it, it sounds like the Microsoft EULA, and plenty of people accept that every day. ;P

    A sad day indeed. A sad, sad day...