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Darl & SCO Overview

HAL9OOO writes "I found an article that as well as giving a good overview of "SCO - The Story So Far" also provides an interesting insight into the character of a certain Mr Darl McBride Esq." It's a fairly lengthy article providing a lot of insight. Necessary reading to anyone new the SCO/Linux thing, and recommended to anyone who just wants some interesting details on SCOs position on the whole thing.

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  1. Re:I've had enough by Zathrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's not breach of contract since the board was clearly acting in the interest of shareholders at the time of the suit. A hostile takeover is not a cheap thing, and getting 10x your face value for the shares makes it hard to argue otherwise.

    Now the majority shareholder could order them to cease and desist, and if they didn't do so could have them fired and file breach of contract, but that's not going to happen.

    In fact, despite all the talk about buying SCO out, that's not likely to happen either. According to Yahoo! insiders and 5%+ owners own 68% of the company. If insiders own over 50% then a hostile takeover is impossible without someone defecting -- and those trades are usually limited by SEC rules in the first place. This is why hostile takeovers have become a thing of the past - companies have learned that having the majority of shares being held by employees, along with SEC trading restrictions, make hostile takeovers very, very difficult.

  2. Re:I've had enough by TobascoKid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't agree - I think this is a similar situation to negotiating with Terroists/Hostage Takers/Bank Robbers etc - you don't, otherwise it will keep happening. If IBM buy out SCO, then practically every dying tech firm will sue IBM in the hopes of getting bought out. Better to crush them in court - especially if IBM can find a way to countersue and drive SCO into the ground. It will take longer to fight it in court than to buy them out but it will be better for everyone in the long run (except for SCO :-)

    Tk

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  3. Re:I've had enough by JordoCrouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't like to answer my own posts, but think I picked the wrong example before. Consider Mr. Thomas Raimondi, Jr (director). He got 32,885 shares at .01 / share!!! If you doubt SCO's intentions, go ahead and do the math yourself.

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  4. I almost agree, but... by yaphadam097 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I almost posted that IBM should just give in and buy SCO in an earlier one of these threads, but then I thought about it a little more...

    SCO is sending all these letters to corporate Linux users saying, "Stay away from Linux, because it violates our IP." If IBM buys SCO and open sources Unix it might prevent any further legal action, but it also might appear to lend some credibility to SCO's claims. Thus IBM is a hero to the average Linux geek, but the corporate world still sees the community as a bunch of thieves who got bailed out by the deep pockets of IBM.

    Therefore, let this go to court and let IBM's lawyers prove that SCO is full of it to begin with. That way the Linux community is vindicated and the only people who look like they've done anything wrong are SCO.

  5. Re:BSD code? by Znork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, with the claims that there is code that is the same in Linux and SCO's products, that should be enough to file a lawsuit against SCO for copyright violation. Then demand that SCO disclose the source (without any NDA) so a review of SCO's code can be done and so it can be determined if they indeed have violated the GPL and by extension engaged in copyright violations.

  6. NO BUYOUT.....MUST BANKRUPT THEM! by Dr_Marvin_Monroe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To quote many over the top political leaders..."we cannot support this type of terrorism, we cannot agree to their demands"....

    By purchasing SCO, no matter how easy it might make the end of this problem, it encourages others to try the same stunt.

    SCO MUST be bankrupted as a result of this, no matter how much money it takes to do that in court!....Anything less encourages others to try the same style attack.

    Destroy SCO, burn everything, leave nothing standing.....

  7. Overblown. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the text:
    "Should SCO prevail, besides reaping its own billions, software megalith Microsoft stands to win the war of enterprise operating systems."

    Exactly HOW did the author come to this idea?

    Because if SCO were to somehow obtain a victory, the masses who use GNU/Linux would just move over to BSD. But such an obviouus conclusion would have made for a short article.

    Microsoft is more likely to win via software patents than SCO's claims.

    1. Re:Overblown. by N2UX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Darl has already stated that SCO believes there are unstated "problems" with the USL/BSD settlement. If SCO succeeds in their jihad against Linux, I would not be surprised to see them turn their guns on BSD.

  8. RE: SCO's lost path. by fshalor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Funny thing is, I was trying to explain the situation to someone over dinner last night. This article does an awesome job of nailing the key points.

    McBride should note: (emphasis added)
    "SCO wound up with the rights to certain dated distributions of UNIX, the proprietary software platform that Linux was patterned after..."

    That's pretty much as accurate a statement as any about the whole situation.

    It's also calling McBride an unsuccessdul salesman. And there's a juicy comment about "Bruce Perens", as "a Linux cheerleader". I'm sure Perens is happy with that sttement.

    Overall, it really reasserts the lack of sense behind the whole thing. The only possible justification for SCO group's actions is the persuit of money for the sake of money....

    Any chance of them changin their front page? I mean, they should get rid of all that betterment drival and just come clean. The fact that their making money hand over keyboard from selling *linux* licenses right now is absolutly, well... I'm not going to meniton it...

    Pengiuns may be flightless, but they have thick skin and kick some serious ass on ski slopes.

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  9. Insight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is zero insight in that article. Quotes from both sides. Darl says that something is in a contract in plain sight. Everyone else says it's not in that contract. Does the reporter bother to check? No. He just reports both quotes. Same think throughout the whole article. Both sides give easily verifiable contradictory information, and the reporter never bothers to look at primary sources, even if they are openly available on the web. It is lousy reporting.

    1. Re:Insight? by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is 'The Salt Lake City Weekly' a freebie? It certainly looks like it. In that case, asking for 'Insights' is being rather optimistic - they did not write the Slashdot blurb on the article.
      What it does do quite well is to summarise what the two sides are claiming in terms that a non-technical can understand.
      If the whole story were completely and obviously cut-and-dried, SCO would be bankrupt already. SCO have at least made an attempt to make it look as though they have a case.

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  10. Still funny... by Fiveeight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, it's a dupe, but I still find this one funny.

    "I've been pounding the table here for a year or so saying there's no free lunch, and there is going to be a day of reckoning for every company that thinks they are going to try and sell a free model." That's Darl McBride, president and CEO of the SCO Group, a perennial loser at selling UNIX and, until recently, Linux operating systems."

    Couldn't say it better myself.

  11. Tort reform by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reading this article made me sick to my stomach. I get it (finally). Darl won't be stopped until he's either rich or passed on to the great closed source world in the sky.

    Having dealt with these pump & dump attorneys in several ventures, the unfortunate realization one makes is that there is nothing - not a single thing - a good, legitimate enterprise or individual can do to stop these thieves. Try suing them to stop them from stealing assets? They'll stall your legal action out - make it take a couple years (by then, there's never anything left). Only tort reform can make an impact.

    Darl and his kin are the modern equivelent to a roundworm. Their parasitism preys on the output of others. Parasitism's a natural occurance in the competitive dynamic of life, but at least in other systems, the host is allowed to attempt to rid itself of them. In the US, nearly all legal means of dealing with parasites are rendered ineffective by the diseased court system.

    Legal parasites make bogus claims to the results of others work - Linux, patent claims of obvious items or with prior art and increasingly abuse two disasters in the US legal system (continually propped up by one of the political parties):

    1. A distorted, manipulated intellectual property award system that allows parties that contibute payola and/or recognize and reinforce the system to be the beneficiaries of an award of others property. Hire attorney. Grease wheel. Pay off the party. Get patent award snuck through. Hire more attorneys. Sue the rightful owners of your "property" for infringement. Get rich. Pay party and attorneys again.

    2. A judicial system filled with crooks and fools. More than two thirds of the justices are of the same system. On the rare occasion you get an idealist, they're quickly focused on inventing absurd laws (like throwing out constitutional guaranteed rights, or inventing absurd new rights) and kept out of the back room where the money flows. It's like Zaphod Beeblebrox of the Hitchhiker's Guide books, the fools are there to distract the attention from you while your wallet is being lifted.

    U.S. citizens that look to crooked third world nations (e.g Cuba, Venezuela) should realize their legal system no better. The only difference is that the crooks that run the system in the US are richer than most elsewhere.

    So open sourcers, until you're permitted to rid yourself of parasites (which unfortunately means both of your parties - and if you don't think your (D) or (R) friends are bought and paid for, then you know which category above you belong in!), understand that your great open source universe represents a dream host to these people. Darl's only uniqueness is that he's one of the first.

  12. This part is great! by obotics · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The following two paragraphs show what a legal nut this McBride character is: (summary- a while back, McBride questioned why IBM had not indemnified their customers if they were so confident that Linux was free from illegal activity. However, after Novell and HP announced indemnification programs, McBride turned the argument around and stated that their MUST be something illegal in Linux, or Novell and HP wouldn't have bothered :p)

    McBride and company are quick to tout the warranty advantages of proprietary software over public systems like Linux. Ever since taking on IBM, SCO has persistently goaded Linux distributors to protect their end users by offering indemnification--that is, agreeing to foot the bill if some company, say SCO, sues for intellectual property violations. As recently as October, SCO spokesman Blake Stowell reiterated the talking point. "If IBM is so confident that Linux is free and clear, why don't they indemnify their users against any lawsuit SCO could bring against them?" he asked.

    That was then. Novell and Hewlett Packard (HP) have since announced that they will indemnify their Linux customers. However, McBride managed to spin the implications of those announcements 180 degrees to SCO's favor. "By announcing the programme they are acknowledging the problems with Linux. Through the restrictions and the limitations on the programme, they are showing their unwillingness to bet very much on their position," McBride told the online British technology magazine VNUnet.