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Joel Rants About Resumes

rbrandis writes "Mr. Spolsky's latest rant is about writing a resume that will be read "Please do not use cover letters that you copied out of a book. If you write 'I understand the position also requires a candidate who is team- and detail-oriented, works well under pressure, and is able to deal with people in departments throughout the firm' then at best people will think you're a bullshit artist and at worst they will think that you were not born with the part of the brain that allows you to form your own thoughts and ideas.""

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  1. Resumes by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do not lie. Lies are eventually revealed, you waste your time and theirs.

    Keep it to what's current and to the subject.

    Make it readable and non-technical. It's going to be screened by HR people, they're typically really bad with technical details.

    Keep a text copy, some people want to receive resumes through horrible web interfaces.

    Nobody gives a crap about your hobbies, unless then involve lots of theft of past employers property, in which case they'll appreciate your candor.

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  2. One *really* common resume blunder by Fortunato_NC · · Score: 4, Informative
    I hire a lot of interns every semester, so I see a lot of resumes. If you're applying for a position, and know for a fact that a lot of people from your school will be applying to the same position, don't use the resume template provided by the career services office unaltered. Your resume cannot possibly stand out from the others if it looks the same as everyone else's.

    Same thing goes for Word's resume wizard. You can use it to get started, but if you stick completely with its format, your resume is going to look just like everyone else's. You and your work experience are different, your resume should reflect that.

    Don't be afraid to take risks. One of the best resumes I've seen used color and graphics - it was definitely eye catching, and it worked, because when I called the young man back, he'd already accepted an internship somewhere else!

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  3. Re:We saved the best for last. by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Joel, as I'm sure you know, was one of the technical guys behind VBA in Excel, along with some other fairly big projects. He apparently made enough money from these gigs that he went off and started his own company, initially focusing on consulting (at the most unfortunate time to be in consulting...), and then moving into shrink wrap software. Apparently they're doing okay as they recently moved into a pretty impressive new office, still in swanky (and expensive) New York City.

    Joel is a big advocate of treating developers well, and is respected for generally being pragmatic and insightful, with a humorous writing style that is informative while remaining entertaining. On the flip side, a couple of his recent posts have been blatant quid-pro-quos with some friends of his, and he's selling out a bit with the Programmer's Paradise gig.

  4. As usual, Joel's whines contain some truth by Theatetus · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trick with resumes is to get noticed, but not for the wrong reasons. A resume (at least in the tech world) has to walk a fine line: you want to get past the HR people who will be looking for keywords, but you also have to prove to the tech person who will end up reading it that you are not a total tool.

    My last resume worked pretty well; I sent it to 5 employers and got 3 interviews (the other 2 were, frankly, out of my league but it never hurt anybody to aim high). The 3 interviews got me 2 offers, and I have a job from one of them.

    From the resumes and cover letters I've been seing lately, I would offer this advice to job seekers:

    • When you list job experience, include some bullet points of specific things you did. Simply saying "Systems administrator" or "developer" doesn't tell me much. Saying "Managed 3 DNS servers for 500 domains" tells me a lot more.
    • Remember what you learned in Freshman composition and use it. Keep your writing short and to the point, and make sure your letter has a beginning which includes a sort of abstract, a middle that goes into a little detail of why you want the job and why you'd be a good choice, and an end which at least tries to close me.
    • Don't be afraid of buzzwords but don't spam me with them either. If you think you're a motivated self-starter with good communication skills, it's not too bad to say so but it's much better to offer concrete examples of that.
    • Do some research into the company. All of our names are on my company's website; don't be afraid to address the letter to one of us. Mention what we do and how you can help our specific projects; that is always impressive.
    • DO include a list of your skills but DON'T list a skill that you don't really have (reading "DNS Administration For Dummies" doesn't mean you can run a BIND cluster).
    • Finally, don't come across flat. Your resume should tell me something about you that gives me a little insight into who you are. What are your interests? What experiences made you who you are today? Don't worry if parts don't seem entirely relevant to the job. I'd rather know that somebody learned viniculture over a summer in France than that they took a 1-week class in Flash and Director.

    Anyways, that's just me and YMMV. Selling is easy it just takes the will to close the guy.

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