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Anti-Virus Companies: Tenacious Spammers

jaroslav writes "There is a great article over at Attrition about the problem of anti-virus related spam. I don't know if we should all start reporting this to the government, but telling the companies themselves that this should stop might get some results."

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  1. Slashdot Plagiarized Again by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You read it on Slashdot first, two days ago. That's right, Darl called these spammers for what they are, right here on Slash.

    Not three hours after this comment, someone mailed this to Declan's Politech list, a cheat sheet for computer illeterate journalists angling for something to stay more relevant than the typewriters they still swear by. And then the very next day, we see three different articles with variations on this very topic. Five bucks says the next issue of eWeek borrows in their next issue as well.

    Yes, as always, none of the stories credited Politech, though the names of the authors who borrow liberally are always the same. And Politech didn't credit Slashdot, where the Politech submitters borrow a full half of their stories with equal disregard for journalistic integrity. Indeed, the only time Politech credits Slashdot is when they believe Slash has said something stupid. These reporters are hooked on the easy source of stories, yet trash it publicly for fear others will find the tool that's kept them from having to do actual reporting anymore.

    I may be here to take Linux away from you, but you can't argue that I don't give something back. You hate me. But you love me too, and you hate that as well. Think of it, you see me just the way others see Slashdot.

    If you'd like to track Politech's ongoing plagiarism of Slashdot, jump on their free mailing list and have a laugh. Watch the submissions. Watch each story jump from Slash to Politech (search the comments after each new Politech post and you'll find the original +4 or +5 comment 4 times in 5), then check the NY Times, Barron's, and Ziff Davis Publishing for the same authors publishing borrowed stories the very next issue. They do it like clockwork, because these "tech" journalists don't realize that we're on the internet too.

    ~Darl

  2. Re:configuration of the virus announcement functio by dave3138 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No kidding. I used to pass the emails along to the end users. Not any more. After this last worm (MyDoom), I became fed up with having to explain to the users why they were receiving the emails. As the parent poster did, I just throw them away. Problem solved. As for the people who allow their AV gateways to send back auto responses, they should be shot. Every time I receive one of those emails from postmaster@somewhere, I fire back a nasty email tell them to cut it out.

  3. I have experienced this in the worst possible way by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When Blaster was going around, I decided I wanted a new email alias on my campus's email system. I chose just my first name, and to my surprise, it gave it to me.

    As soon as it was set up, I started getting 50-100 messages from other servers saying that my address was spewing out viruses. Of course, this is impossible, seeing as my computer never even knew that I had this alias. Yet, I kept getting it time and time again.

    The problem was, I couldn't delete the alias, and I ended up with hundreds of these messages per day. Incredibly frustrating. They must know that it serves no purpose.

  4. It's a tough call.... by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work at a helpdesk, so I've spent the last couple days repeating how from headers can be forged, ect, ect to users... so I agree with the frustration and do want it to stop.

    At the same time, if I unknowingly sent an important document that had a virus and was not recieved, I would want to know. Years ago I remember sending a resume that was infected with a word macro virus - I was glad that I got a bounceback message, since a)I knew I had a virus and b)I knew the place didn't get my resume.

  5. I've always been suspicious of AV companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let's face it, these people all have a vested interest in making sure that viruses are not eliminated.

    In the last Slashdot story about the Mydoom worm, a Computerworld article quoted the damning evidence directly from the horse's mouth:

    No one has yet reported an infection by Mydoom.B, said David Perry, global director of education at Cupertino, Calif.-based antivirus vendor Trend Micro Inc. "If 100 people in the world had been infected, we would know," he said. "In fact, almost all of the viruses that have ever been detected never infected anybody ever. We say that there are about 77,000 known viruses, but only about 900 of them have ever infected anyone."

    Huh? Pardon me? If they never infected anyone, then what makes them viruses? How were they detected if they never infected anyone - from the original first seeds by the viruswriters themselves? Then why in the hell haven't they tracked the virus writers down? Are these inventions of the AV companies that never existed outside of the AV companies' labs? Only 900 out of 77,000 ever infected anyone - isn't the virus problem then vastly overrated?

    Given the above statement and the quite legitimate complaint that started this thread in the first place, I really think everyone should question the AV companies' role in the virus situation.