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Nit-Pickers Guide to Deviations in Jackson's LotR
bcolflesh submits "A lengthy list of deviations to be found when comparing the text of The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien and the translation of those texts to film as undertaken by Peter Jackson, et.al."
That dude missed a few glaring deviations.
Fellowship of the Ring
75. In the book, Gandalf isn't the one saying "You shall not pass!", It's the Black Knight. King Arthur subsequently hacks off all of the Knight's arms and legs leaving a limbless knight protesting on the ground.
The Two Towers
107. In the book it isn't an army of Orcs that decimate the army of the good guys, it's a bunny with "a vicious streak a mile wide". Also, the magical fellow warning them in the book is an Enchanter named Tim, not a Wizard named Gandalf.
The Return of the King
77. In the movie, Gollum falls into the lava of Mt. Doom and dies. The book clearly states that John Cleese carries him to a cart while Gollum protests "I'm not dead!" Eric Idle then crushes his skull with a club then runs off to the Robinsons' as "they've lost nine today."
damn slacker..
Trolling is a art,
I suppose this was bound to happen but frankly, the movies are long enough already, if they added in all this other crap you'd need a damned diaper to make it thru 1 movie.
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts (la la la),
Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show,
I should really just relax"
This story has an amazingly low number of posts, given its topic and age. Then I realized: These geeks are actually reading it!
Yea, Mortal Kombat 2 was nothing at all like the original novel!
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
Who would have thought? The book had to be adapted so it can be shot as a movie! I'm speechless.
Tom Bombadil is the one who suggests the Hobbits make for Bree. Jackson has Gandalf make this suggestion though, having left Bombadil out of the film entirely, this is somewhat understandable.
Erm, yes of course. Because a character has been completely removed from a theatrical adaptation of the book, then his absense in making a small suggestion elsewhere in the book is only somewhat understandable...
By the sounds of these, I feel they were on a mission to reach point number 1000 or somewhere near that. Pedants! Bah!
..the books don't start with the words: "based on the book by J.R.R. Tolkien"
All that and he didn't mention the ommission of my favorate minor character: Radagast the Brown.
I swear, the first one who calls him simple or a fool or a bird-tamer is getting a punch in the mouth. : )
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They started this whole thing by setting the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey around Jupiter when it should have been Saturn as described in the book!
1) inviting a girl to the book is usually a bad idea
2) the text version is recommended if you plan on wearing nothing but your boxers all day
3) if you've been at the bar all night, keep in mind that the books are significantly less enjoyable for illiterate people (temporary or not)
I just think it's fantastic that people like Tolkien are finally writing books based on movies these days. It really helps out people who leave a movie wanting more.
-Barkeep, a draft of your most hazardous brew, for the world is slowly stepping into focus, and I don't like what I see.
You mean LoTR was based on a book or something?
I knew there was something that bugged me about these movies. Now I know!
"76. Bilbo rides to the Grey Havens on a pony (ROTK p.381). Jackson has Bilbo ride to the Grey Havens in a covered wagon."
Thanks Nit-Picker!!!
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce
1. Why was Sauron visible when he wore the ring in the opening sequence of the Fellowship of the Rings?
2. What is so great about the ring? Sauron wore the ring, and his hand was cut off. I think Sauron should have gotten a refund.
3. Bilbo loved the ring, and had a good time with it. It scared the beejezus out of Frodo when he wore it. Why the difference?
4. If anyone deserved the ring, it was Boromir: "By the blood of our people are your lands kept free." Naw, give it to the cute little hobbits. No way.
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The Death Penalty: Killing people to show others that killing people is wrong.
After the women left he was sulking in a corner and said something cruel and sexist about them. When I finally lost my patience and told him he reminded me of Denethor he stopped talking to me! Blessing in disguise, really.
"Be rest assured I was on the internet within minutes registering my displeasure."
77. In the movie, Gollum falls into the lava of Mt. Doom and dies. The book clearly states that John Cleese carries him to a cart while Gollum protests "I'm not dead!" Eric Idle then crushes his skull with a club then runs off to the Robinsons' as "they've lost nine today."
78. Theoden's last words were, "Tan my hide when I'm dead, Fred, tan my hide when I'm dead." And Merry later states, "So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde, and that's it hangin' up on the shed."
Unbelievable omission...really ruined the movie for me.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
but funny. Don't remember where I grabbed this list, but here's 12 Things Not To Say Watching ROTK in the theatre:
1. Stand up halfway through the movie and yell loudly, "Wait...where the hell is Harry Potter?"
2. Block the entrance to the theater while screaming, "YOU.....SHALL....NOT..... PASS!" - After the movie, say "Lucas could have done it better."
3. Play a drinking game where you have to take a sip every time someone says, "the Ring."
4. Point and laugh whenever someone dies.
5. Ask everyone around you if they think Gandalf went to Hogwarts.
6. Finish off every one of Elrond's lines with "Mis..ter Ander-sonnn."
7. When Aragorn is crowned king, stand up and at the top of your lungs sing, "And I did it.... MY way...!"
8. Talk like Gollum all through the movie. At the end, bite off someone's finger and fall down the stairs.
9. Dress up as old ladies and reenact "The Battle of Helms Deep," Monty Python style.
10. When Denethor lights the fire, shout "Barbecue!"
11. In TTT when the Ents decide to march to war, stand up and shout, "RUN FOREST, RUN!"
12. Every time someone kills an Orc, yell: "That's what I'm Tolkien about!" See how long it takes before you get kicked out of the theatre.
13. During a wide shot of a battle, inquire, "Where's Waldo?"
14. Talk loudly about how you heard that there is a single frame of a nude Elf hidden somewhere in the movie.
15. Start an Orc sing-a-long.
16. Come to the premiere dressed as Frankenfurter and wander around looking terribly confused.
17 When they go in the paths of the dead, wait for a tense moment and shout, "I see dead people!"
18. Imitate what you think a conversation between Gollum, Dobby and Yoda would be like.
19. Release a jar of daddy-long-legs into the theater during the Shelob scene.
20. Wonder out loud if Aragorn is going to run for governor of California.
21. When Shelob comes on, exclaim, "Man!Charlotte's really let herself go!"
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
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I have no idea what sort of tune to put to them when singing them in my head, if Jackson had left them in and translated the books to a Musical rather than a fantasy/actioner I wouldn't have this problem.
Look, they even took liberties with the story when they made "The Ten Commandments" and no one complained about that. If you can get away with not following the Bible exactly, I think we can forgive a few liberties with LOTR.
Of course, Christians and Jews aren't nearly as fanatical as some of Tolkien's fans.
It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
"The dead turn up to win the battle at Minas Tirith... This should have made for a hugely cinematic moment, but instead we got light humour (Aragon, Gimli, Legolas jumping on to the dock and making a comment about 'plenty of orcs for everyone.')"
Yeah, that one bothered me too. I mean, what was the point of even fucking fighting??? Just the let the dead guys take of it.
Seriously, why risk your life when a bunch of green dead guys are swarming over everything like a cartoon advertisement for a bathroom cleaner killing germs?
Then we get the whole scene that starts with Aragorn shouting "Legolas!" and pointing at the oliphaunt for Legolas to take down. Again, I ask you, what kind battlefield management skill is this? He's got a whole field full of dead green guys who can take down the oliphaunt without any risk, and he sends in a fucking elf? And let's face, Legolas ain't exactly the most butch elf around.
Man, if I were that elf, I'd have a serious talk with my battlefield commander after an asshat move like that. You know, something along the lines of:
Legolas: What the FUCK were thinking!!! I could have DIED out there!!! I could be fucking oliphaunt toe-jam!!!
Legolas is obviously a level 65 Wood Elf Ranger with Endless Quiver Alternate Ability, you silly.
People might find this criticism of the Middle Earth corpus interesting . It's obviously a white male conspiracy which hid the important roles of Eowyn and Arwen.
The next time my wife dares to tell me "You have too much free time on your hands," I will show her this guy's site.
She will never be able to use that line again, for it will have lost all meaning.
Because they weren't main characters, of course.
Imagine: children read this Harry Potter books again and again and again, and they go to the movie to see the exact same text in pictures. As soon as there is a deviation, they are disturbed. They feel the movie let them down. They want the book to the screen in every single detail and not one missing, nosirree.
Now, LotR was made for the fans of the LotR books, and therefore...
Oh, wait...