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IETF Approves XMPP Core as Proposed Standard

hystrix writes "As long expected, the IESG has approved the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Core (draft-ietf-xmpp-core-22.txt) as a Proposed Standard. For those of you in the dark, thats the protocol behind the only tried and proven open IM platform, Jabber. Congrats to the hard working Peter Saint-Andre, and the entire XMPP Working Group."

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  1. We've been using Jabber for the past two years... by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...to send Cougaar society status messages around - we've been able to get around 1100 messages (albeit simple ones) per second.

    We're using the Ruby wrapper Jabber4R as well as various GUI clients, and we're using the Jabber 1.4.2 server.

  2. OSS Does It Right by Mork29 · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is just further proof that the OS community can right good, solid, secure code. Pooring lots of money at a problem just makes prices higher, and a few high level management people richer. It's just adding overhead to the problem. OS can right good solid secure code. If only Microsoft could....

    1. Re:OSS Does It Right by grasshoppa · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is just further proof that the OS community can right good, solid, secure code. Pooring lots of money at a problem just makes prices higher, and a few high level management people richer. It's just adding overhead to the problem. OS can right good solid secure code. If only Microsoft could....

      Not codes, standards.

      Jabberd1.4.x is um...well, don't get me wrong, I LOVE jabber, I have it setup at several different places and all that, but jabberd1.4.x sucks rocks. 2.0 is better, and has better features, but written by the same folks, so while I use it because I need it, I'm always keeping a wary eye out for it doing silly things.

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  3. Re:Still room for lock in.. by LighthouseJ · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is SSL available, I use it when I'm using public computers on Jabber.

  4. Re:Good but... by pldms · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple's iChat uses XMPP for local (rendevous) chats, IIRC. It uses AOL's protocol for remote sessions, however.

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  5. Re:No it isn't , it uses flavour-of-the-month XML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    XML is..

    A) Easier to parse

    B) Already standard libraries for parsing

    C) Human readable

    D) More standard than puyre binary

    E) Able to integrate and share data with other applications

    F) It levels the playing field and allows interop and competition.

    Face it, XML is flavour of the month for a reason. it has lots of advantatges over propreity formats.

  6. not the first IETF IM standard.... by hta · · Score: 3, Informative

    the first IETF IM standard to make it through the process was the CPIM package (draft-ietf-impp-cpim-msgfmt). It's a specification on how to interconnect IM systems rather than a complete IM protocol specification.
    The other major player in IETF standards-space is SIMPLE - the presence specification documents for that (draft-ietf-simple-presence) are in the RFC Editor's queue.
    The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them.....

  7. Re:We need more of this by lordpixel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um, IIRC Netscape 4 saves its local mail in mbox format, which is the closest thing to an open standard there is.

    I certainly had no problem importing the mailboxes into other clients when I stopped using it.

    I truly open standard would be nice, but I don't think Netscape 4 has major client lockin issues.

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  8. Re:Does anybody use it succesfully? by hsoom · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try Psi for a jabber client that runs on both windows and linux. I've been using it on my Debian Woody and Win 2k boxes for a few months now without a hitch. Very mature, convenient and usable. I use to use Miranda-IM on my Win 2k box but since switching to Psi I haven't looked back.