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James Cameron's Illustrated Mars Reference Design

An anonymous reader writes "Terminator Director James Cameron commissioned renderings of the NASA Mars Reference Design [HTML, 4 PDFs]. The mission profile calls for a cargo ship sent ahead of a crew, a huge (Terminator-like?) rover, and inflatable habitats. It's not clear where Skynet and the T-800's hyper-alloy combat chassis fit in yet. Between now and then, the 5 Mars missions: 2005 Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter, 2007 Phoenix and Netlanders, 2009 Science Lab Rover, and 2011 Scout. Skynet comes in 2026."

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  1. Re:James Cameron explores the planets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    James Cameron didn't have anything to do with Terminator 3.. He simply refused to work on it in the first place..

    Hohum..

  2. Re:James Cameron explores the planets by silentbozo · · Score: 5, Informative

    James Cameron may have spawned the Terminator franchise, but he had no connection T3 (the film was directed by Jonathan Mostow.) Rumor has it that Cameron was planning to buy back the rights to the Terminator franchise, and then produce/direct his own script, but was outbid. When the guys who bought the Terminator rights tried to hire him for T3, Cameron turned them down.

  3. The Collier's Space Program, half a century later by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    Back in 1952, Collier's Magazine published a six-part series later called the Collier's Space Program. That series is credited with inspiring the US space program.

    Those pictures are famous, and there's even an animated Disney documentary from the period.

    The "Collier's space program" was far more ambitious than what's been done to date, or even what Cameron had drawn. The Collier's program had a big rotating space station in Earth orbit, a Mars rocket under construction in orbit, and heavy industrial traffic to and from orbit. Cameron has much lower ambitions.

  4. Re:First mission in 2005? by BTWR · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bill Clinton authorized NASA to launch missions to mars every 20 months when Mars is in an opportune window. It is actually cheaper to launch a $300 million probe every other year than wait every 5 years and launch a $500 million one (my cornell profs, who run the current MERs explains it) - sitting around w/no payoff loses you money. Sucessful missions like pathfinder and MERs 2003 get you science and grants. The 20-month (or whatever the window is) has been followed pretty closely:

    1997: Pathfinder/Mars Global Surveyor
    1999: Mars Climate Orbiter/Mars Polar Lander (both lost)
    2001: Mars Oddessey/Mars 2001 Lander (Code name: Apex - cancelled after the 1999 failures)
    2003: "Athena:" A lander that was planned back in the late 90's, then cancelled after the 1999 failures(much of Athena became incorporated into the current MERs). Spirit/Opporunity (also Japan and ESA took advantage of the opportune planetary alignment).

    Also, before the 1999 failures, there was an amazingly complex Mars Sample Return mission in it's initial stages planned for 2008. Professor Squyres (Spirit/Opportunity leader) was also to have been involved in that. It was a sort of "Rube-Goldberg" trick that would have had a lander on the surface, scoop up some soil, put it in a rocket not much bigger than a model rocket, launch it into Mars orbit, rendezevous with an orbitting satellite, launch it back to earth and finally be snapped up by a helicopter as it paracheutted down over the American desert (this parachutte technique happens to be how StarDust's sample will be retrieved). That mission woulda been so cool though. Honestly, making it work sounds even cooler than the actual specimen we woulda gotten back!

  5. Re:What's wrong with Cameron by payndz · · Score: 3, Informative
    He hasn't made anything since Titanic because... well, he hasn't had to.

    I interviewed Cameron last year, and flat-out asked him why he hasn't made a film (as opposed to a documentary) since 1997. His answer was, "I'm having too much fun." Well, lucky bastard on the one hand, but on the other, all credit to him!

    Still, looks like he's going ahead with Battle Angel now. And in 3D, to boot!

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  6. pdf file mirror...just in case nasa can be /.'ed by silicon1 · · Score: 1, Informative
  7. exploremarsnow.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    A more complete study of a different approach is available online for anyone to view at Explore Mars Now. It's a flash tour of a possible first manned mars landing environment that is based on the virtual tour of the actual Mars Arctic Research Station.

    But apparently nobody cares because it wasn't commisioned by a well known director with a fetish for explosions.

  8. Winds not going to blow tent over by Goonie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Whilst Mars can apparently get windy, it's hardly likely to blow the tent over. The atmosphere is only about 1% as dense as our own, so the force on the dome will be correspondingly reduced.

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  9. James Cameron owns Mars Trilogy Rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    James Cameron owns the screen adaptation rights to Kim Stanley Robinsons Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars Trilogy.

    This probably means that at last the books are being adapted for the screen...

  10. Re:Good idea... by danila · · Score: 2, Informative
    Cameron is pretty well informed and he always does his homework. The guy who hires a scientific ship for a couple of years to study Titanic and then decides to make a film about it is pretty high on the list of people I would trust. Add to that the fact that in his approach he clearly acknowledge? his limitations and based the designs on real current assumptions about the mission, and you have the result described in the article:

    I said, 'Look, this is our proposal for what a Hab would look like, and what a pressurized rover would look like, and we made certain assumptions based on how we operate deep submersibles, for example, in terms of how the manipulators would work taking samples and so on.' And [scientists from the human exploration and development group] said, 'Hey, this is neat! Thanks! If you ever want to get out of filmmaking, come here and hang with us.'


    As for the title "Doctor", it generally says nothing about the person. Cameron is not a Doctor, but he is a son of an engineer and he has a major in physics. The fact that he chose to pursue a career in filmmaking does not preclude him from being knowledgeable enough to make a reference design for human mission to Mars. On the other hand, his background in filmmaking actually makes him more qualified (I hope you won't deny the quality and realism of the sets and machines in Aliens, Terminator and Titanic).
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  11. Re:News for Nreds, Stuff that Matters by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the news part is the Cameron commisioned designs, based on the 1997 mission references and the inspirations of the recent landers that the director got from them.